Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth

Montana and South Dakota minus one week

The Democratic primaries campaign limps on: Puerto Rico on Sunday, Montana and South Dakota next Wednesday (our time).

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  1. 151
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    149
    Robert Bollard

    Different spelling RB

    But very close.

  2. 152
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    RB

    You can say SNAP!

  3. 153
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    KR at 142 – Mississippi is at a 75% plus probability on Intrade of going Dem of not an insubstantial trading volume.

    RB – the Base get’s you in the game, everyone else gives you the margin. US politics is always two games in one;get your base out and attack the middle.

    The Repubs problem is that the middle and what has become of their base are allergic to each other over most things.

    Ron – too often, the grand plans of political campaigners, the propaganda that accompanies it (that whole “leaked sources said” bizzo) as well as leaps of faith on the demographic bandwagon just arent compatible with the data – and when they conflict I just choose to go with the data

  4. 154
    HarryH
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Sibellius got elected in ruby red Kansas in 2002 and then re-elected in 06 in a landslide.
    She is hardly on the nose to republican/Conservatives.

    Attacking her over abortion will be a vote loser for Republicans overall in the General. But it’s all they know. Part of why their Party is decaying.

    Bring it on.

  5. 155
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    153
    Possum Comitatus

    I’ve just looked and it says last trade at 12.5 for Dem?

  6. 156
    Robert Bollard
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    I understand that Poss. My point was about Mississippi where I suspect it’s mostly about the base.

  7. 157
    Ron
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Possum

    I also follow the data , even when its anti hillary as it was & is in some States. your implication could be taken that I do not. Thats your opinion but as i’ve already said anyone can say that about anyone else without proof

  8. 158
    Robert Bollard
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    Harry,
    I agree. You’d think that the Repuigs would have attacked her in Kansas over that already, and if it didn’t work in Kansas it’s not gonna work anywhere else. THat being said, her speech in reply to Bush’s State of the Union was apparently boring as batshit.

  9. 159
    HarryH
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    Independants en masse held their noses in 2004 and voted Republican because of national security as a result of Sep11 2001.

    After the ensuing 4 years of Republican/Bush disaster, those Independants are going to be in a punishing mood.

  10. 160
    Pancho
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    RB@158 – It was a real bloody snoozer. She ain’t no Obama, but then again, just about everyone will have a charisma deficiency standing next to him. Solid and dull mightn’t be a bad way to play it.

  11. 161
    HarryH
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    RB

    I think boring as batshit is just fine alongside the Illinois excitement machine.

    She is female,conservative,progressive,white,stable,respected,popular.

  12. 162
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    Ron at 146

    Possum , that unsubstantiated allegation can be made against anyone putting up a value judgement based on psephological grounds.

    Ron, the general rule is that a comma (i.e. ‘,’) is not preceded by whitespace. In fact if you review a broad spectrum literature you will find very few if any occurrences of a comma preceding whitespace. The comma is a valuable and useful punctuation device because it separates the structural elements of sentences into manageable segments. Read on for further self development.

    http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_comma.html

  13. 163
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    Blardy hell – thanks KR

    My (ahem) apparently not very good data gathering script for the Intrade site is .. well, shit (that’ll teach me to write it myself!). Or else Systat is having import problems – entirely possible with that useless thing, but my money is on me being a poor programmer.

    I just did the old fashioned copy and past into excel, cleaned it up and everything else in Fridays data entry is right – except Mississippi. Mind boggles.

    And here I was talking horseshit about Mi all day!

    Ha!

    Mea Culpa

    Next up – How Hillary will win the Presidency!

  14. 164
    GhostWhoVotes
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    153

    KR at 142 – Mississippi is at a 75% plus probability on Intrade of going Dem of not an insubstantial trading volume.

    Possum, that is Minnesota, not Mississippi.

  15. 165
    Robert Bollard
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    Harry #161: MY only problem is that you’ve just described the female Harry Truman. :(

  16. 166
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    162
    Catrina

    My dear Oracle, the content, if it could be called thus, IS the white space!

    You have completely missed the point of his posts!

    Oh, and the commas, they are integral additions to that very same white space.

  17. 167
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:30 am | Permalink

    Robert Bollard at 165
    William – why aren’t you deleting posts like Robert Bollard at 165?

  18. 168
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:30 am | Permalink

    164
    GhostWhoVotes

    Why thanks GWV, that puts a complexion on things! LOL

    If Mississippi burns…well, you can write your own punchline! LOL

  19. 169
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    Ron, I’m not having a go at you – lifes too much fun to f*ck around with that stuff. Just saying that I give more weight to hard data than soft data.

    Assuming of course that I can get my act together and actually look at the hard data that is of some semblance of reality!

  20. 170
    Pancho
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    KR@168 – very Clintonian.

  21. 171
    Robert Bollard
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    “Next up – How Hillary will win the Presidency!”
    The Tzarina will die leaving her young son to inherit. He will have an adolescent crush on the Clinton’s and will switch allegiances. It will be the miracle of the house of Arkansas/Long Island/Pennsylvania/insert attachment…!

  22. 172
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    KR at 166
    I don’t have time to write another decoder!
    I’ll just put that down to another aborted attempt to change the world.

  23. 173
    HarryH
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    RB

    I share your red pain…but realism must prevail in the non-Hillary world.

  24. 174
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    Ghosty – My Minnesota entry has 76, which is what it was late Friday. I’ve somehow got this cosmic entry for Missi at 77.5 for the Dems! I’m honestly f^*$#d if I know how that happened!

  25. 175
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    174
    Possum Comitatus

    ya gave me a fright, because I’d looked at those state numbers earlier and did a double take when you put that up! LOL

    So I went and checked again, and guessed you’d blooped.

  26. 176
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    The comma is a valuable and useful punctuation device because it separates the structural elements of sentences into manageable segments. Read on for further self development.

    http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_comma.html

    Another valuable and useful punctuation device is the hyphen, which is to be used when employing prefixes – an example being self-development.

    http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_hyphen.html

    Now, please stop being a pain in the arse.

  27. 177
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    Possum at 174
    Are you reading against state names or two letter abbreviations?

  28. 178
    Ron
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    Possum Comitatus #141
    “No Ron, I just mean following the data free from wishful thinking”

    Possum that could have been taken as a go at me which I was not going to object to actually because I never have objected to any insults here. I just wanted to establish whether you were trying to or if it was unintendedly left vague

    Possum Comitatus #169
    “Ron, I’m not having a go at you – lifes too much fun to f*ck around with that stuff. Just saying that I give more weight to hard data than soft data. ”

    Accept you were not having a go. Soft data is useless to me. Now I haven’t looked at that Intrade link yet you gave but if MI be 75% for BO I don’t see the value , I think MI will remain ‘red’ unless there is an incredible ‘black turnout’ , do not see it

  29. 179
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    And what is that I’m missing about RB’s comment?

  30. 180
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    Now, please stop being a pain in the arse.

    And I love you back!

    :-)

  31. 181
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    For three years in a row over 30 percent of Mississippi’s residents have been classified as obese. In the most recent (2006), 22.8 percent of its children were also classified as obese. This makes Mississippi the most overweight U.S. state.

    Wiki

    …the things you find on the net! LOL

  32. 182
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    KR at 181
    Any details on where Mississippi stands on the economic spectrum?

  33. 183
    Robert Bollard
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:55 am | Permalink

    KR #181 “That ole man river he just keep rolling the inhabitants along.” And with that I will roll my not-as-thin-as-it-used-to-be carcass into the sack.

  34. 184
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:55 am | Permalink

    Cat, I pull the data from the site into an excel format which are given abbreviations – then import that into Systat (which is the program I’m using at the moment for my US stuff – it’s import capabilities are limited in practice, hence the two stage process) where the States abbreviations are given a number. I stuffed up the Systat numbering regime (typo actually) – which is good because it took all of 10 seconds to fix it.

    Hooray!

    Ron – dont worry, the Missi price aint 75! (it’s actually 12.5) That’s just me being a l33t uber-typist!

    Today fumble fingers – tommorrow.. ze world!

  35. 185
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    G’night Rob!

  36. 186
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    Cat asked,” Any details on where Mississippi stands on the economic spectrum?”

    The word you’re after is “rooted” – never quite recovered from that whole civil war thing – although there were hints of a resurgence in WW2 and the 60s.Just didn’t quite pan out .

  37. 187
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    Today fumble fingers – tommorrow.. ze world!

    Do it! Make me proud.

    :-)

  38. 188
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    182
    Catrina

    They’ve got booze laws that are really all over the shop (except Sundays! LOL) but this is truly amazing:

    Mississippi is one of only a few states to have decriminalized the possession of marijuana, so that possession of 30 grams or less of marijuana is punishable only by a fine of $100 – $250 for the first offense with no jail time.

    …how odd.

  39. 189
    HarryH
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    Poss

    Considering you still retain amateur status and aren’t accepting google ads or site donations, we shall forgive your momentary incompetance.

    Continue on.

  40. 190
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    183
    Robert Bollard

    Haha, very funny.

  41. 191
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    Possum at 186 and Kirrie before that
    So what’s with this overwight thing? If conditions are really that bad – how come we don’t have lots and lots of skinny Mississippi kids running around in the dirt?

  42. 192
    Ron
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    well Possum , scolling back there is a suggestion i think perhaps the 75% refers to MN , thats a solid blue State for both Hillary & Obama & usually in the past as well , so 75% seems conservative to me

  43. 193
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    182
    Catrina

    I’d have guessed it was something like what Poss said, but he already has.

  44. 194
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    Aw, come on Harry – you could at least smite me!

  45. 195
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:02 am | Permalink

    Kirri at 188
    To put this into perspective – I need to know what 30 grams is going to set me back in Mississippi.

  46. 196
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:02 am | Permalink

    Shit food is the cheapest food cat. Poverty and obesity is highly correlated throughout the western world.

  47. 197
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:03 am | Permalink

    191
    Catrina

    Big Macs

    poor=fat=cheap calories=low fitness=blob

    …in front of the telly!

  48. 198
    Kirribilli Removals
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:03 am | Permalink

    Poss, you get to say SNAP

    Sheesh, I’m just not quick enough

  49. 199
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:04 am | Permalink

    Beat you by a Mississippi minute KR! Which at the going rate is about 900 calories

  50. 200
    Catrina
    Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 1:04 am | Permalink

    Is this a fact or a behavioral consequence?

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