No FuelWatch effect from Morgan either: indeed, their face-to-face poll conducted last weekend shows Labor’s lead up to 63-37 from 61-39 the previous week. Labor’s primary vote is down slightly from 53 per cent to 52.5 per cent, but the Coalition’s has fallen further – from 34 per cent to 31.5 per cent, their worst result since mid-March.
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Morgan: 63-37
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Just watched the end of The National Press Club speech by Mike Rann (impressive) and one of the Press questions was should Della Bosca and Neal be sacked. He said he’s known della 20 yrs and he was a wonderful caring bloke or words to that effect. Then he had a dig at the press saying (tongue in cheek)that he knew how honourable they all were and how none would tell untruths (not exact words).
Then he went on to tell of a story which had run for days in the papers and on TV about how he had abused a service station attendant and demanded he fill his silver Honda which had even number plates in a time of petrol rationing when it was the day for odd number plates. The problem with the story was he didn’t drive, didn’t own a car and had never been in a silver Honda in his life . He also told how his wife (they were engaged at time) had been accused of being in Caines(spelling?) film festival at tax payers expense when at the time she was 5 minutes from the newspaper office.
He finished up by telling them to get their facts straight!!
I smell a rat, but don’t quite know where it is yet.
The Australian ran with a story today that Toyota were always going to build their hybrid car in Australia and didn’t need the “$70m” subsidy offered by the Govt. (Rudd offered $35m, but anyway). The implication being that Rudd is needlessly throwing away money. This has now been replaced as top story with a non story, Rudd to meet Emperor.
I haven’t found any reference to the “hybrid” story in the Age or SMH online.
In my suspicious mind, unless the OZ has some problem with their initial story, they would have shouted it from the roof tops for a week or so.
What’s going on?
Fulvio
Their ABC is also at it with the Lib propaganda (AGAIN!)
Big headline
“Hybrid grant a ‘$35m Rudd photo op’”
then we find that this is a quote by Libs
“The Federal Opposition says the grant handed out to Toyota to build hybrid cars in Australia amounts to a $35 million photo opportunity for Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.”
ABC have become so predictable, you don’t need to read their crap to know what it will say! They are an embarassment to themselves.
Fulvio 452
this is why toyota has had a go at them
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23846728-12377,00.html
Thanks Vera.
No futher comment required. They are truly pathetic.
Maybe y’all should write to Purnendra Jain, Professor and Head of Asian Studies at Adelaide University for not glorifying Rudd.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/JF11Ad02.html
JoM
what a crap article
think it was ‘hastily cobbled together’
Vera, the headline you quote is an abbreviation of the first sentence of the story, nothing more nothing less, and single quote marks are put around the key claim by the opposition. Are you suggesting that the opposition’s remarks shouldn’t be quoted? Are you suggesting the ABC should ignore the key point the opposition are trying to make!
John, he’s entitled to his opinion. At least he presents it as such and not as some eternal truth, as do your heroes in the MSM.
gotta laugh at the Libs stamping their feet and having a bawl about Kev and his “photo ops”
The Rodent was like a hooker in The Cross when the fleet was in. Any uniform in sight and he was on his back, legs spead begging for someone to take photos.
Gary: you’ve got Neil Mitchell, we in Sydney have Alan Jones and Ray Hadley!
All 3 have made a career out of crawling up the arse of the Liberal Party.
“vera Says:
June 11th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
The Rodent was like a hooker in The Cross when the fleet was in. Any uniform in sight and he was on his back, legs spead begging for someone to take photos.”
You have a remarkably colourful turn of phrase, Vera.
Gary Bruce, I am glad the email contact for Barrie Cassidy worked.
John @ 456 : Any yet there is this from Hadi Soesastro, Executive Director of the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Jakarta…..
http://eastasiaforum.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/kevin-rudds-architecture-for-the-asia-pacific/
….which is a very positive take on it.
one of the comments on Howard Sattler’s “Blog” on the new Fairfax Perth news website.
http://blogs.watoday.com.au/madashell/2008/06/pensioners_the.html
So you see from Sondeo’s link, John, that when an opinion piece is presented as such, it is unobjectionable per se, and can be rebutted by argument from a different perspective and mindset. What you then accept is up to you.
To be bombarded by extravagant exaggerations, beat ups, deliberate lies and distortions, all presented as proven facts, is another matter entirely.
But I would have thought you’d have known that.
Maybe y’all should write to Purnendra Jain, Professor and Head of Asian Studies at Adelaide University for not glorifying Rudd.
No point wasting time and effort on an ‘expert’ who apparently isn’t aware that the delay in Rudd visiting Japan originated more in Tokyo than Canberra, or who believes we should abandon our Nuclear Suppliers Group obligations because the war criminal in Washington and his LibNat fellow travellers find its provisions inconvenient. If India really wants our yellow-cake it only needs to sign a safeguards agreement with the IAEA. That should not be a problem if its intentions are benign.
As one of Belinda Neal’s constituents, I remember last year before the election having one or two here question me about my outspoken opinion on Belinda’s uselessness. I now feel completely vindicated. None of the latest tawdry story surprises me. A read of the stat. dec.’s and a look at the CCTV tells you he allegations are all true.
I thought last year the ALP would be better off if she didn’t win the seat, which was a big call from someone like me desperate to see the back of Howard. She made it only by the skin of her teeth, when a quality candidate would have romped in, because the workers around Robertson know she’s a dud.
For the first time I agree completely with Horatio on something. Except he wasn’t damning enough.
Frank Calabrese #463
I think I can guess, without even looking, who wrote that. Ann of WA?
I can tell by the phrasing, the oddly-placed capitalisation and the obsession with Rudd being a “Junior Diplomat”.
Have seen “her” malicious howard-licking posts on News Ltd blogs. Will no doubt maintain the rage for years to come.
Now you have to got to worry about the competence of this so called Australian Toyota spokesman and wonder if he still has a job. It is so stupid you have to also wonder about motives.
Regardless of the facts, from a business perspective you would think he would have had the nouse to protect his $70 million by not making comments such as these.
Hi gods in Japan have set him straight and now we have:
I’m assuming so
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btw, check out “Skink’s” cooment, as it was me who predicted what Howie’s first column would be over at http://theworstofperth.com
Downer was an even more junoir and less successful dimplomat.
The ABC has gone from bad to worse, in the past they wouldnt headline with something like the photo op headline without having Opposition says, or :Opposition after the quote. Now they just parrot the liberal party
The best thing about the MSM bias at present is that it means Nelson stays. And that’s great for the government
You are spot on Kina. Ann it was. I’ve just posted on Sattler’s blog that he might want to change it’s name from Mad as Hell to Mad Ass l’s.
I have to say this Belinda Neal stuff holds slighly less interest for me than watching paint dry and I’m into politics. I’d imagine the average “don’t care” Joe Blow would find it even less compelling than I do. For those who hear anything about it, it will be “Belinda who?”
good on ya!
I encourage you all to monster Sattler’s blog – which is all about Betty and Mavis being forced to eat dog food due to the paucity of the State Pension. Utter hogwash.
be polite though – it’s their first week and their moderator is very sensitive to any ascerbic criticism.
GB funny how Cassidy and Walsh respond that they have complaints from Lib voters. Its like a bigot saying, “some of my best friends are (insert object of bigotry)”. Die hards from both sides WILL complain no matter what. It cerainly DOES not prove bias doesnt exist.
At least you got a reply. i got nothing
The one thing I will say about Neal though is that Rudd has successfully turned her from “bad woman to be hated” to “mad woman to be pitied” and that politically is a good result. Now, let’s hear “Just Call Me Brendan” get into her and still look compassionate and caring.
Fulvio,
It seems that between her and The Worst Of Perth, Sattlers blogging days will be successful as his pitiful attempt over on Perth Now
474 Andrew – I’m going to keep hammering too. They don’t know it yet but they made the mistake of replying. If nothing else it makes me feel good.
The pensioners eating dog food stuff brings back memories of the Keating years, one of the “current affairs” shows of the time ran a similar story – poor pensioner eating dog food. Until it was pointed out that dog food is more expensive than, say, braised steak and onions, for human consumption.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
JV at 466, you assessment of Neale may be inherently correct, but what about the fact that the stat decs were signed by a Lib member, and dont you think there has been an overreaction to the incident
The other thing about the hysteria and bias of the media, which also applied when he was opposition leader is this: if THIS is all theyve got to attack Rudd about, then he must be doing well
That $30m did seem funny to me, the Toyota head honcho not knowing what it was for.
Any fool would know you don’t tell a government offering you 30 million dollars that you don’t need it. What a clown. It could only have been said to embarrass the government, it certainly wasn’t a business decision.
But Farmer Jacks has Kit-Kat for 79c a tin while also having Continental Pasta Sauces for 99c
Decisions, Decisions
that should be Kit E Kat
Talk about eating Pussy
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Neal’s behaviour has acted to enhance her reputation as a very, very nasty piece of work. ALP powerbrokers would be wishing that they had found a safe state seat for her instead of burdening the federal government with her boorish behaviour: I say that as a long-time Labor voter.
The NSW ALP government is perfect for Neal: she would be among her ilk and such saintly and well behaved folk as Joe “Lucky Luciano” Tripodi, Eric “Meyer Lansky” Roozendaal, Mo “The Chairman” Iemma, Michael “Toe Cutter” Costa and of course John “The Boss” Della Bosca.
Skink, Frank! Mine got published!
I think the moderator thought I was aiming my comments at the handfull of pro Labor posters on his penny dreadful…
I noticed that – it seems that the moderator doesn’t understand irony
Rudd has ordered Neale to receive ‘counselling’ to be able to communicate with people and be able to attend to her constituents. Neale has apparently accepted.
Neale’s preselection and subsequent behaviour should give succour to those in the ALP wjo want to better manage the selection of future candidates.
On the face of it she doesn’t set the world on fire by any measure.
Word is that censure motions against the Japanese PM may have him cancelling his meeting with Rudd. If so will the MSM be in a tizzy about ‘Fukuda slights Rudd’ or will they spin it as Rudd getting his just deserts? Need I ask!
The pensioners eating dog food stuff brings back memories of the Keating years, one of the “current affairs” shows of the time ran a similar story – poor pensioner eating dog food. Until it was pointed out that dog food is more expensive than, say, braised steak and onions, for human consumption.
Presumably, that would now be even more true now given that pet food is subject to the GST.
Oh, we had it tuff, we used to stay up nights,
dreaming of eating dog food
Now you tell that to the young people of today and they won’t believe you
454 Vera
Thanks for that link; I thought the Oz story was an appallingly slanted coverage of the Toyota Camry hybrid decision. That decision probably saved 3000 jobs in the Melbourne area in the short term and more in the long term. It finally introduces a critical transitional technology into the Australain car industry. Its pathetic that the Libertarian tries to shoot down a story that is crucial to the long term survival of one of our largest industries.
I suppose an apology for a blatantly false report will not be forthcoming.
That is Neale to attend ‘Anger Management’ Counselling
Mayo – the headlines will be “Japan gives Rudd the Snub he Deserves”
Isn’t it amazing how well the Dalai Lama is able to send our politicians into exile? The top 3 have all skipped the country, leaving Chris Evans in charge. If one was going invade the country maybe they should get the Dalai Lama to lead the charge? There wouldn’t be a pollie left.
#497 and your point is???
Curiously the MSM is beginning to not just look to promote a negative view of the government they have also become like sulking children. Rudd does something good, they have to pout and say it aint good, or ‘what about….blah’.
Keven Rudd saves someone’s life in an act great bravery….and the ABC and Murdoch press will come out with how his shoe laces weren’t tied and how can he present himself so untidily in public. Exactly like the jealous sulking kid.
The collective MSM has developed a personality problem…haha (we know Brendan and Co already had one).
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