Comments on: Kororoit by-election live http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/ Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:02:34 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: TurningWorm http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-169176 TurningWorm Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:04:15 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-169176 Double plus good. Double plus good.

]]> By: marky marky http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-169172 marky marky Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:50:33 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-169172 It is not paranoia, the SDA are now the biggest union in Australia and more members mean more delegates at conference and more power within the Labor Party. They are a real concern. Growler you and Landeryou know each other? It is not paranoia, the SDA are now the biggest union in Australia and more members mean more delegates at conference and more power within the Labor Party. They are a real concern.
Growler you and Landeryou know each other?

]]> By: Geoff Robinson http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-169063 Geoff Robinson Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:53:14 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-169063 Paranoia about the SDA here, their wacky moral views are about as relevant as the nostaglia for the Soviet Union that used to affect the old guard of the Left. Paranoia about the SDA here, their wacky moral views are about as relevant as the nostaglia for the Soviet Union that used to affect the old guard of the Left.

]]> By: B.S. Fairman http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-169045 B.S. Fairman Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:10:05 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-169045 I wasn't trying to make a comeback. I am just not suprised that his views do not align with mine. I wasn’t trying to make a comeback. I am just not suprised that his views do not align with mine.

]]> By: Greeensborough Growler http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-168969 Greeensborough Growler Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:05:10 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-168969 BSF, That's your best comeback? I'm disappointed. BSF,

That’s your best comeback?

I’m disappointed.

]]> By: B.S. Fairman http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-168962 B.S. Fairman Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:53:42 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-168962 Why is that not a shock? Why is that not a shock?

]]> By: Greeensborough Growler http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-168901 Greeensborough Growler Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:46:55 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-168901 Andrew Landeryou has a different view. http://andrewlanderyou.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-to-do-about-etu-should-rebel-left.html Andrew Landeryou has a different view.

http://andrewlanderyou.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-to-do-about-etu-should-rebel-left.html

]]> By: B.S. Fairman http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-168896 B.S. Fairman Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:42:06 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-168896 The SDA getting control will be a serious problem. It is probably not going be the problem at 2010 election, but if the ALP does win a four term and the hard Right is fully in charge, then they might get sandwiched (Sort of the way the Canadian Progressive Conservatives were sandwiched by the left parties (LP, NDP) and a new rightwing parties (Reform)). The Liberals would probably do preference deals with anyone to win at that stage and most voters would probably be happy to see the end of the government by then. I doubt the Greens alone can become the really opposition, but if the ETU or another Union is expelled and forms some form of leftish independent block that runs in conjuction with the Greens, there is a bit of a chance. There are a lot of leftish voters who are don't really like the Greens that much but wouldn't mind an alternative to the ALP. Also a union probably has enough members to form a party and man booths etc. Then the inner city would fall.... The SDA getting control will be a serious problem. It is probably not going be the problem at 2010 election, but if the ALP does win a four term and the hard Right is fully in charge, then they might get sandwiched (Sort of the way the Canadian Progressive Conservatives were sandwiched by the left parties (LP, NDP) and a new rightwing parties (Reform)). The Liberals would probably do preference deals with anyone to win at that stage and most voters would probably be happy to see the end of the government by then.

I doubt the Greens alone can become the really opposition, but if the ETU or another Union is expelled and forms some form of leftish independent block that runs in conjuction with the Greens, there is a bit of a chance. There are a lot of leftish voters who are don’t really like the Greens that much but wouldn’t mind an alternative to the ALP. Also a union probably has enough members to form a party and man booths etc. Then the inner city would fall….

]]> By: marky marky http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-168666 marky marky Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:07:07 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-168666 This result is a worrying result for Labor. The next election will be close in Victoria, because Brumby has not got the same aura as Bracks has about him. Also Victorian Labor now counts the Greens and Leftie independents as the opposition instead of the Liberals. It is running somewhat fraudelent scare campaigns against these groups and is treating the electorate as mugs. More worrying for the Victorian Party is that the so called movement groups the catholic right ( The SDA retail group) are getting more power within it. The preselection and admin committee are evidence of this. If their power continues problems could arise down the track regarding policy direction and being able to gain a diversity of members. More worrying may be splits within its ranks and the party in general. (1955 all over again? ) Finally the Party Secretary is running negative campaigns instead of postive ones and needs to change focus, personally i think he should be sacked. This result is a worrying result for Labor. The next election will be close in Victoria, because Brumby has not got the same aura as Bracks has about him.
Also Victorian Labor now counts the Greens and Leftie independents as the opposition instead of the Liberals. It is running somewhat fraudelent scare campaigns against these groups and is treating the electorate as mugs.
More worrying for the Victorian Party is that the so called movement groups the catholic right ( The SDA retail group) are getting more power within it. The preselection and admin committee are evidence of this. If their power continues problems could arise down the track regarding policy direction and being able to gain a diversity of members. More worrying may be splits within its ranks and the party in general. (1955 all over again? )
Finally the Party Secretary is running negative campaigns instead of postive ones and needs to change focus, personally i think he should be sacked.

]]> By: TurningWorm http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/06/28/kororoit-by-election-live/comment-page-2/#comment-168640 TurningWorm Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:43:15 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/883#comment-168640 So they say, GG. Although i'm pretty sure that voters in Toorak and Brighton never hear it from a Liberal government. So they say, GG. Although i’m pretty sure that voters in Toorak and Brighton never hear it from a Liberal government.

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