Comments on: Morgan: 59-41

By: William Bowe

William Bowe — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:55:53 +0000

Newspoll thread up. Please do not carry over the religion discussion on to the new thread. Thank you.

By: Ron

Ron — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:47:25 +0000

Tim

the ‘oz’ have run a series of anti Rudd storys using his religion to try to present him as flakey , so feel the ‘oz’ have a pro Lib agenda in bringing religion in

By: Ron

Ron — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:43:42 +0000

ESJ , FINNS & GG

so you guys ‘perused’ , all smarter of course than the barbarian , bbut maybe the custers last stand forcast may have been on the money for once , never tempted by fantasyland

Socrates
the othr way to look at your point is that in most non democratic countries , the various churchs in net terms do add to peoples lives , and the MSN highligh
the minority adverse , so a Kevin Rudd with declard beliefs has something in common with them

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:41:11 +0000

Remember the good ole days when we discussed POLITICS in this blog *sigh*.

By: ShowsOn

ShowsOn — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:39:48 +0000

Interesting how many take that view with them when its time to enter the departure lounge. Quite a few come back to Mother Church “for insurance purposes” as they say.

Yeah it’s amazing the things people do when they are desperate.

By: Edward StJohn

Edward StJohn — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:53 +0000

Hmm Socrates 279,

Like most issues, the facts are more complex:

http://www.census.gov.ph/data/pressrelease/1999/press9908tx.html

By: Socrates

Socrates — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:29:54 +0000

ESJ
The problem in places like Manila is not teaching, it is systematic lobbying to stop funding of programs for sex education and birth control. Far too often the “lords supporters” prefer tactics which are distinctly secular and underhanded in their struggle for “truth”. Pell and the dodgy funding deals on WTF day is a case in point. I sometimes wonder if they believe in an afterlife any more than I do; all they want is to keep the show on the road here and now. Hence the need to brainwash new generations.

As for the wine collection I referred to; it was only meant as an example but the one I was thinking of was enjoyed by an individual and not shared with the poor.

By: Edward StJohn

Edward StJohn — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:28:22 +0000

264 GG,

Interesting how many take that view with them when its time to enter the departure lounge. Quite a few come back to Mother Church “for insurance purposes” as they say.

By: Edward StJohn

Edward StJohn — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:25:22 +0000

LOL Finns, there can be only one Showy, interesting how the flow of the Showy River is building up, I guess Charlie always felt safest in the Family compound too!

By: Socrates

Socrates — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:24:34 +0000

GG
Why do you conservative religeous types invariably think people like me feel guilty or don’t know what the (catholic) church was like? Its as though your own inability to admit it could all just be an accident of history is intentionally maintained. Better to assume al the critics are ignorant – if they just knew the truth they’d believe! ROTFL!

As for your comments on divine wisdom – well that is very poor logic. Its a circular argument to assume some of the characteristics of what you are trying to prove exists in order to prove your belief it exists is valid! Though in a sense I don’t really blame you for that one. Since the split with science most religeons have preferred to rely on blind faith rather than reason. Rational thought in teh catholic church went out the window under Wojtyla. Some of the early theologians who were also philosophers and reached their conclusions through reason would turn in their graves. There’s no certainty that early christians even believed in an after life, or prayed for the dead, before the second century AD. But don’t mind me I’m ignorant of religeon – hopefully I jsut know what I don’t know