Morgan has released another poll just five days after the last, from a face-to-face survey of 1067 voters conducted last weekend. The agency’s figures had previously been holding out in the pre-budget Rudd honeymoon zone, but they have now come down to earth with a drop from 60-40 to 55-45. This has partly been driven by a drop in the Greens vote to 7.5 per cent from an anomalous 11.5 per cent last time.
Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth
Morgan: 55-45
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246 Prog; Will Brough play wrecker?
Does this answer your question?
Former federal minister Mal Brough has warned other states to “think carefully” before following Queensland’s lead in merging the Liberal and National parties.
“[The Liberal] party will cease to exist in about three months’ time if the federal party grants its approval and changes the constitution and ratifies it,” he said.
“I will continue to be the Liberal Party president today and tomorrow and until such time as that occurs … I will not be joining the LNP.”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/26/2315350.htm
Finns
What’s all this about Muslim separatists in Yunnan? Is it a goer?
Diog, i am talking about a man is innocent until he is proving guilty, especially in Singapore where things can be just as murky as the haze that is drifted across from Indonesia where there are more Muslim separatists than in Yunnan.
So what happens to the federal Queensland Liberals and Nationals? If they join the LNP does mean they are able to sit in both party rooms? I can’t see the other Liberals being happy with that as seems it a case of double dipping.
Or are they going to form a LNP level party room? In which case a Liberal would be the leader as they would have 10 to 3 advantage.
Or are they going to remain members of their respective parties at Federal level? How do they organise their federal campaign then?
The middle case is probably the only one that would work and is the less likely to adopted.
Dio @243 & 251
First seen pre Xmas 06 training with you know who doing you now what on the you know where site. Yes.
BSF – the Xmas party should be fun.
codger – hello???
codger
It looks like an Aussie has advised China of the terrorist threat of ETIM. It must be one of the few times you don’t want to be proven right.
Last month, Australian security expert Neil Fergus –- former director of intelligence at the Sydney 2000 Games, Fergus has also worked as a consultant at the Salt Lake City and Athens Games, as well as in China for this year’s Olympics — warned that the main threat faced by the Olympics comes from the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM).
“There are over 100 members of ETIM that were trained by al Qaeda in Afghanistan prior to the invasion of Afghanistan, so there is no question about the links. The links are very strong,” said Fergus.
Jen
Here is a link to the info codger was referring to from the Council on Foreign Relations.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/9179/east_turkestan_islamic_movement_etim.html
Freedom for the Uighurs.
Thanks Diogenes-
so having read that, how real is the threat IYHO?
ESJ, the Uighurs were beaten and conquered by the Chinese some one thousand years ago. methinks it’s a bit too late now.
Does time ratify a conquest Finns?
ESJ,
Depends who writes the history.
quite GG.
If the LNP did form a partyroom in Canberra, it would be the second biggest party in coalition, with Nats only having 5 (or 4 depending on Lyne byelection).
I meant 7 (or 6). Forget Victoria.
ESI, what about Hawaii, that is more recent.
Any chance Mal Brough could join the ALP?
If we’re going to start re-visiting conquests of 1000 years ago, then maybe it’s time for the Anglo-Saxons to rise up against the Normans.
Progressive,
Maybe – he’d fit in ok I suspect
Progressive @ 268 – Yeah, about the same as JWH’s. None and Buckleys!
I was joking at 270, by the way
Dunno Jen. My limited understanding of analysing how serious terrorist threats are is that the best predictor is how many “successful” attacks the group has to its “credit”. ETIM have managed FIVE in the last two months so they appear pretty determined.
Finns et al
According to the CRF, the Uighurs are alive and well.
Who are the Uighurs?
The Uighurs (pronounced WEE-guhrs) are an ethnic minority group numbering about 8 million. Their ethnicity, language, and culture is more similar to the Turkic peoples of neighboring Central Asian republics. Although the ETIM seeks to establish an independent Islamic regime, the majority of Uighurs are Sunni and do not support an Islamic state.
Dyno, what about we all pack up and leave. Return this place to the rightful original owners.
Unscrambling an egg being such a simple thing to do, Finns …
Finns,
They haven’t got any use for it. They’re all dead.
Dyno, unless it is the chinese foo-yoong combination omelette. they’ve been asked to unscramble them all the time
Condi has backed Helen Clark’s call for China not to use the terrorist threat to stifle dissent. I’d be interested to hear what Smith and Rudd say if asked.
The chief US diplomat, when questioned about how China dealt with security issues, said “of course security threats have to be dealt with… but security should not become a cover to deal with dissent.”
She was echoing comments by her New Zealand host Prime Minister Helen Clark, who said any protests in China “need to be dealt with proportionately and with the due restraint.”
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jKXDnhZA-E21L8KnSGpbhS4badkg
The chief US diplomat, when questioned about how China dealt with security issues, said “of course security threats have to be dealt with… but security should not become a cover to deal with dissent.”
Oh, the irony.
BB@229,
Oh, to get him indoors to pick up a pair of secateurs!
How does she do it,BB?
I have some trees which I prune heavily every year and it repays me in lush foliage where I need it, though admittedly they don’t affect privacy for long.
But no amount of pleading ,cajoling has any effect on the MATH (man about the house),he being of the laissez-faire gardening variety.
Even organised for professional pruners to trim trees to protect current water views only to have him somehow manage to dismiss them before they could do their task!
Covert guerilla tactics in the horticultural sphere, irreconcilable mindsets…a fact of life.
Do love my trees,shade,etc., but believe they live much longer if pruned properly.
However,suspect in your case,it is a matter of degree…..how much is too much?
Welcome back Megan,
Life got too boring and hard on the island. I recommend you read about the New Australia movement at the turn of the last century, you may find it interesting.
1) The Welsh are still fighting (Kind of) for independance from the british fascist?
2) Re the USA comment about China. Is it irony or blinding hypocracy?
3) Re Qld, LOL does it ever strike them that its not all about them.
4) Public Notice today. This is a line of thought that even the Great Bolt hasn’t thought of. I Quote. “The world produces 32 billion gallons of oil per day mostly from under the sea, take out oil in flows water sea levels are dropping you are bing conned” Exact spelling, OMG.
I’m not a Rugby Union person, but it was nice to see our boys kick Kiwi arse tonight!
So I’m away for a day and see some supporters of a do nothing Yankee used car salesman (who has NEVER supported Kyoto ratificaction ) come here & have the foolish gall to critisise Sir Kevin who has the courage to tackle CC , calling him boring
Its one thing to post in fantasy island about US politcs which is “TV packaged politicans” & where politcs is typically US false plastic perception BUT if you come here to this site remember this is ‘oz’ land And in ‘oz’ we judge ‘oz’ politicans on ‘oz’ values of substanse thank you very much not bullsh.t US virtual reality values of ‘god bless America’ pretty oratory words
Such jugheads would logicaly vote for a inspiring speaking Liberal John Howard type if he spoke pretty inspirational words , even if he had no substanse The inspiration lasts only as long as the 30 second TV add lasts , which obviously equals the jugheads attention span
Megan @ 280:
Well, there was this Ozito power demolition saw on special at Bunnings, and the tree branches were scratching my car as I backed out of the garage…
After my #284 above , next one speaks to those “left” ‘oz’ posters who are NOT infected by th US plastic pretty words virus of trying to compare Sir Kevin to a snake oil salsman & seek more boldness Yous guys already know Sir Kevin is CC committed , he does hav substanse and he is a doer , but perhaps yous may hav wished Kevin07 had abit of Paul Keating in him as well
Well Parlament was great for us when the Armani kid was in full flight , he would hav fixed up that slick oiliness Yankee in 10 seconds , and shown him to be as empty in policy substanse as he made Hewson & Dolly However the times & th challenges are diferent today , because in reality ETS is a new tax , its a carbon tax on all business & all voters with NO full $ offset Its a $ pain to all sectors in th economy & we don’t want the economy st.ffed & producing high unemployemnt Hence the beaucrat approach is needed A ‘process’ pollie like Sir Kevin suits the CC times
Its frustrating , the anti CC-er’s ar attacking , and we gotta wait months for the Green Paper submissions to be received & assessed , and put up with the witch craft of ‘Andrew Bolt’ scares Personaly i’d prefered some boldness of my solar farm out there now , and am abit skeptical ETS itself is a full CC cure BUT there are the politcal & econ challenges above to consider as well Therefore I’m NOT throwing out the bath water of th committed CC da man Kevin07 who may be a Nerd but acts not talks pretty , in favor of either the anti CC Horatio clan or a slippery empty worded no substanse Yankee doodler , finishing each speech with ‘ I love America’
Margo Kingston hopes that all the former Liberal and National Senators had health checks before signing up as Pineapple Party members.
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/2444
I fail to see why Swan doesn’t get APRA to force all the banks to explain just what their exposure to the subprime mortgage fiasco is and why they told us while Costello was Treasurer that the exposure was either non existant or negligible. Clearly it has been significant and worsening.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24078729-643,00.html
#287 – Steve, that piece on Webdiary is from one of the contributors [Submitted by Malcolm B Duncan on July 26, 2008 - 5:51pm.] – not Margo. She has not been written for Webdiary for a while now.
Malcolm makes an interesting point though that [If a casual vacancy arises by reason of the death resignation or other disqualification of any sitting National or Liberal Queensland Senator, it effectively means the Labor [sic] Executive in Queensland gets to appoint whoever it likes.]
That’s true Finns but this laptop is very sensitive and sometimes sends before I’d like it to. Sorry for being too quick on the draw to check properly.
The Mad Monk (on meet the press) says he wants to “quaranteen” 50% of all welfare payments for all people who get the majority of their income from welfare payments.
Will pensioners and carers cop this – will they protest?
ruawake that is what is happening in the trials in four Cape York communities at present. It is Noel Pearson’s favourite theory.
ruawake @ 291 – There wouldn’t even be a whimper. After all they swallowed whatever scraps Howard and Costello gave them without complaint for 12 years and continued to vote for them in record numbers. They only start getting their gear off when Labor is in power.
steve @ 288,
The banks (largely) didn’t even know about their exposure when Howard was in, and they still don’t know what it is now (though at least they’ve noticed it exists). So Swan can demand all the information he wants but it probably won’t help.
My experience in the risk business (20 years’ worth) is that when you don’t understand the risk you are underwriting, it’s normally higher than you think (though in good times you can be lucky and get away with it).
291
Abbott attacking welfare receiving minorities?
It’s always worked in the past.
Some things never change.
Just turned off Insiders when your shout came on and the first comment was about the Gov not controlling prices after 7 thats right 7 months! Plueeeeese! This was after the vacuous Greg Hunt said nothing except China India USA for 10 minutes. The Insiders would have to be the biggest joke of a political programme on TV.
“Insiders” can be good but it depends on the make up of the panel. I always shudder when I see the Poisoned Dwarf or Pies. They are useless.
Jeff Kennett equates being gay with pedophilia. His time at Beyond Blue must be rapidly ending.
FORMER state premier Jeff Kennett has provoked a gay rights storm by backing a football club that sacked a trainer for being gay.
Jeff Kennett in gay football trainer row
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24084385-5006301,00.html
Seems like Kennett might be trying to drum up some publicity for himself in a push to stand for Lord Mayor of Melbourne. (On the principle that any publicity is good publicity).
Ronster
“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.”
No-one is doubting Sir Kevin’s commitment to addressing CC. The friendly suggestions relate to his methods.
One complaint is that his solution (ETS) is not the best one. Clearly the Ron Solar Farm has it all over ETS.
The other concern is that even if ETS was the way to go that Ruddster will allow it to be crippled by endless reports, caveats and negotiated agreements with the huge forces that don’t want an ETS which would effectively kill it.
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