Comments on: Northern Territory election: late counting http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/ Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:17:41 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: rod http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179811 rod Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:26:47 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179811 Grace I think you may have a point re push polling and the NT, but in a round about way. That article you linked to mentions the effectiveness of the push polling in the NT especially in relation to fishing " where half the population loves fishing for barra". The push polling apparently said that labor was to give the aborigines land/ sea rights that would threaten this NT past time. Interesting about a week before this NT election the high court did just that. http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/traditional-owners-win-sea-rights/2008/07/30/1217097331310.html Push polling in the NT does not need a phone campaign, with such small electorates a whispering campaign in the pubs is just as effective. IE "See we told this would happen if labor got in" Grace

I think you may have a point re push polling and the NT, but in a round about way.

That article you linked to mentions the effectiveness of the push polling in the NT especially in relation to fishing ” where half the population loves fishing for barra”.

The push polling apparently said that labor was to give the aborigines land/ sea rights that would threaten this NT past time.

Interesting about a week before this NT election the high court did just that.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/traditional-owners-win-sea-rights/2008/07/30/1217097331310.html

Push polling in the NT does not need a phone campaign, with such small electorates a whispering campaign in the pubs is just as effective. IE “See we told this would happen if labor got in”

]]> By: grace pettigrew http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179808 grace pettigrew Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:35:22 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179808 Yes rod, that sounds a fair guess. The pollsters in the NT in 94 and the ACT in 95 were connected to, or commissioned by, the Liberal Party, when Andrew Robb was in charge. The whole charade of denial, including Lynton Crosby's on the BBC, is beyond a joke. At the time, Crosby and Textor were Liberal Party apparatchiks, who later formed a commercial company together, which did its dirty business throughout the Howard Years, and then dissolved. Careful words indeed. Yes rod, that sounds a fair guess. The pollsters in the NT in 94 and the ACT in 95 were connected to, or commissioned by, the Liberal Party, when Andrew Robb was in charge. The whole charade of denial, including Lynton Crosby’s on the BBC, is beyond a joke. At the time, Crosby and Textor were Liberal Party apparatchiks, who later formed a commercial company together, which did its dirty business throughout the Howard Years, and then dissolved. Careful words indeed.

]]> By: rod http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179726 rod Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:24:17 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179726 Grace Interesting read re the polling. "Background Briefing has a number of statutory declarations from electors who say the company doing the poll identified itself as Apex. Company searches reveal that the name Apex was owned by a company known as Controlled Marketing Service, and a director of that company was Charles Porter, a former Director of the Liberal Party in Western Australia." I take it he is the father of the shadow A-G in WA. Grace

Interesting read re the polling.

“Background Briefing has a number of statutory declarations from electors who say the company doing the poll identified itself as Apex. Company searches reveal that the name Apex was owned by a company known as Controlled Marketing Service, and a director of that company was Charles Porter, a former Director of the Liberal Party in Western Australia.”

I take it he is the father of the shadow A-G in WA.

]]> By: Just Me http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179717 Just Me Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:54:19 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179717 <i>Fixed terms to be introduced in NT</i> Good. The only person who should be able to call an early election is the relevant Administrator/Governor/Governor-General. Fixed terms to be introduced in NT

Good. The only person who should be able to call an early election is the relevant Administrator/Governor/Governor-General.

]]> By: Gary Bruce http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179702 Gary Bruce Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:21:52 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179702 Fixed terms to be introduced in NT - I think Henderson has learned his lesson. http://news.theage.com.au/national/fixed-terms-to-be-introduced-in-nt-20080819-3y2x.html Fixed terms to be introduced in NT – I think Henderson has learned his lesson.
http://news.theage.com.au/national/fixed-terms-to-be-introduced-in-nt-20080819-3y2x.html

]]> By: grace pettigrew http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179653 grace pettigrew Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:50:01 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179653 Lovely lovely intertubes, much better than my fading memory. Here is a run-down on Textor and the 1994 NT election from ABC Background Briefing on 28 Feburary 1999: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/backgroundbriefing/stories/1999/19393.htm Lovely lovely intertubes, much better than my fading memory.

Here is a run-down on Textor and the 1994 NT election from ABC Background Briefing on 28 Feburary 1999:

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/backgroundbriefing/stories/1999/19393.htm

]]> By: grace pettigrew http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179618 grace pettigrew Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:48:32 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179618 Antony, in Robinson's 1995/96 successful defamation suit, both Andrew Robb and Mark Textor were the defendants, and the shelf name of the polling company involved was innocuous, as I recall. So yes, the name of the company does not necessarily indicate the prime movers. Textor's involvement in the 1994 NT election (soon after he returned from the US) was detailed in the SMH later, and was quite probably a backroom organising job rather than actually making the phone calls, but again, I am working from memory. Antony, in Robinson’s 1995/96 successful defamation suit, both Andrew Robb and Mark Textor were the defendants, and the shelf name of the polling company involved was innocuous, as I recall. So yes, the name of the company does not necessarily indicate the prime movers. Textor’s involvement in the 1994 NT election (soon after he returned from the US) was detailed in the SMH later, and was quite probably a backroom organising job rather than actually making the phone calls, but again, I am working from memory.

]]> By: Antony Green http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179546 Antony Green Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:41:55 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179546 Grace, he may be right. The NT push polling was done by a WA company associated with a senior Liberal. I think the ACT stuff was carried out by another polling company. Grace, he may be right. The NT push polling was done by a WA company associated with a senior Liberal. I think the ACT stuff was carried out by another polling company.

]]> By: grace pettigrew http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179405 grace pettigrew Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:57:21 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179405 sorry, rod sorry, rod

]]> By: grace pettigrew http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/11/northern-territory-election-late-counting/comment-page-5/#comment-179404 grace pettigrew Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:56:49 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/913#comment-179404 Oh yes Ron, Lynton was very careful with his words. Oh yes Ron, Lynton was very careful with his words.

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