Comments on: WA election minus 16 days http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/ Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:53:52 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: William Bowe http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181129 William Bowe Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:07:01 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181129 <a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/926" rel="nofollow">New thread</a>. New thread.

]]> By: Midlandia http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181126 Midlandia Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:55:25 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181126 The 'moral failing' one was borrowed from Rick Warren's Saddleback Church debate in the US Presidential campaign, I believe. It was framed in personal rather than political terms. McCain said allowing his first marriage to collapse was his greatest failing. Obama singled out his prolific drug use during his teenage years. Did Barnett even actually answer the question? He started to talk about his drugs policy before Dixie Marshall scolded him for dodging the question. The ‘moral failing’ one was borrowed from Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church debate in the US Presidential campaign, I believe. It was framed in personal rather than political terms. McCain said allowing his first marriage to collapse was his greatest failing. Obama singled out his prolific drug use during his teenage years.

Did Barnett even actually answer the question? He started to talk about his drugs policy before Dixie Marshall scolded him for dodging the question.

]]> By: VPL http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181111 VPL Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:48:54 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181111 Sean - disagree about Allannah and infrastructure - in fact I thought from the debate that there was very little support in general in that area. I do agree with Frank et al about Buswell - as I said in a previous thread, he needed to be on the front-bench because of the strength of his parliamentary performance but Treasury was too important/too high profile for it not to be used to bash the Libs over the head with. I also agree to some extent that it showed both a questionable moral approach and the dearth of talent in the parlt Lib party that he not only remained leader but fended off several challenges - in the end he wasn't pushed (but should have been), he went on his own terms. Few more thoughts from last night: As for that final question by Dixie - 'your biggest moral failing' what the hell sort of question is that??? Not even in your political career but your life in general...??? I thought it was irrelevant and out of order but no question Carps played it best - even getting a laugh (one thing the Dockers is always good at it getting laughs). Barnett really did a crap job on that question and he got it second giving him a couple minutes to think of a response. Sean – disagree about Allannah and infrastructure – in fact I thought from the debate that there was very little support in general in that area.
I do agree with Frank et al about Buswell – as I said in a previous thread, he needed to be on the front-bench because of the strength of his parliamentary performance but Treasury was too important/too high profile for it not to be used to bash the Libs over the head with. I also agree to some extent that it showed both a questionable moral approach and the dearth of talent in the parlt Lib party that he not only remained leader but fended off several challenges – in the end he wasn’t pushed (but should have been), he went on his own terms.
Few more thoughts from last night:
As for that final question by Dixie – ‘your biggest moral failing’ what the hell sort of question is that??? Not even in your political career but your life in general…??? I thought it was irrelevant and out of order but no question Carps played it best – even getting a laugh (one thing the Dockers is always good at it getting laughs). Barnett really did a crap job on that question and he got it second giving him a couple minutes to think of a response.

]]> By: steve http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181076 steve Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:22:35 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181076 Sorry wrong thread but great yarn. Sorry wrong thread but great yarn.

]]> By: steve http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181075 steve Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:19:46 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181075 The Queensland redistribution causes first reaction. Carolyn Male decides the New seat of Morayfield looks easier than Gjasshouse. "MEET the state MP who's ditching her own electorate because it's too hard to win and will fight to contest another where she prefers the shopping." http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24241614-952,00.html The Queensland redistribution causes first reaction. Carolyn Male decides the New seat of Morayfield looks easier than Gjasshouse.

“MEET the state MP who’s ditching her own electorate because it’s too hard to win and will fight to contest another where she prefers the shopping.”

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24241614-952,00.html

]]> By: Frank Calabrese http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181074 Frank Calabrese Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:49:57 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181074 ABC TV News Report on the Leaders Debate. http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2008/08/25/2346149.htm ABC TV News Report on the Leaders Debate.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2008/08/25/2346149.htm

]]> By: Ozymandias http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181073 Ozymandias Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:10:16 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181073 SeanofPerth @ 333 "I think some ads displaying that Buswell would be Treasurer under a Lib government would go down great - you could tell by the worm that he is pure political poison." -spot on. Buswell is a skidmark that stains the whole of the party, from the MPs who three times voted him as best alternative premier among them, to the party officials who backed him so publicly. That the majority of a party could make such a collective misjudgment shows them as unprepared for government. The litany of 'Libs shoot own feet" headlines (Frank C @ 309) is effective, but I have no doubt there are even more anti-ALP headlines in the archives, given The Worst's habitual carpet-bombing of the government in its reporting. SeanofPerth @ 333 “I think some ads displaying that Buswell would be Treasurer under a Lib government would go down great – you could tell by the worm that he is pure political poison.”

-spot on. Buswell is a skidmark that stains the whole of the party, from the MPs who three times voted him as best alternative premier among them, to the party officials who backed him so publicly. That the majority of a party could make such a collective misjudgment shows them as unprepared for government.

The litany of ‘Libs shoot own feet” headlines (Frank C @ 309) is effective, but I have no doubt there are even more anti-ALP headlines in the archives, given The Worst’s habitual carpet-bombing of the government in its reporting.

]]> By: SeanofPerth http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181062 SeanofPerth Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:56:17 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181062 Frank you will find that on the planning, development and infrastructure front - Labor support is almost unanimous, especially in the planning field. Alannah MacTiernan is breath of fresh air and innovation this state so desperately needed Frank you will find that on the planning, development and infrastructure front – Labor support is almost unanimous, especially in the planning field. Alannah MacTiernan is breath of fresh air and innovation this state so desperately needed

]]> By: Frank Calabrese http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181059 Frank Calabrese Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:49:20 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181059 SeanofPerth: I'm amazed at that forum, you'd think it'd would be filled with card carrying members of the 500 club, but the posters think like us :-) THey were right about how the worm responded when either Carps or Barnett spoke, half of those in the audience looked like 6PR listeners with a few stragglers from 96fm :-) Perfect Redneck/Bogan demographic - none of this ABC Riff Raff :-) SeanofPerth:

I’m amazed at that forum, you’d think it’d would be filled with card carrying members of the 500 club, but the posters think like us :-) THey were right about how the worm responded when either Carps or Barnett spoke, half of those in the audience looked like 6PR listeners with a few stragglers from 96fm :-)

Perfect Redneck/Bogan demographic – none of this ABC Riff Raff :-)

]]> By: SeanofPerth http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/08/21/wa-election-minus-16-days/comment-page-7/#comment-181057 SeanofPerth Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:24:36 +0000 http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/921#comment-181057 I think some ads displaying that Buswell would be Treasurer under a Lib government would go down great - you could tell by the worm that he is pure political poison I think some ads displaying that Buswell would be Treasurer under a Lib government would go down great – you could tell by the worm that he is pure political poison

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