The latest weekly Essential Research survey (providing a rolling average of results over the previous fortnight) shows Labor’s lead up to 59-41 after a long stretch on 58-42. Also included are leadership approval ratings which provide an interesting point of comparison with Newspoll: Kevin Rudd has 56 per cent approval and 33 per cent disapproval (compared with 59 per cent and 25 per cent in last week’s 56-44 Newspoll), while Brendan Nelson’s ratings are 24 per cent and 51 per cent (compared with 36 per cent and 39 per cent). Breakdowns are provided telling us how much of this approval and disapproval is “strong”, and there are also results on whether Nelson’s party has given him “the support he deserves”, and on the seasonal workers issue.
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Essential Research: 59-41
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“you don’t then fire the boss who refused to fire him.”
The boss has publicly stated he never received any such instruction ! Furthermore has said she/he did not even discuss it Policeman’s bad record & his continued employment was discussed at lower levels by Administration as it should hav been , apparently his ‘record’ was an embarassment Thats why there is an Inquiry
Th “accuser” is an ex Republican turned Independent who got thrashed by th Lady in last governor’s election !! Hardly an unbiased “accuser” more like a vendetta , unless you believe despite that th Police Chief allegedly instructed has publicly lied , plus th Lady But partisan people will believe anything circumstantial one way but not in reverse
Problem with th Lady may be politcal experience in Washington
Have it your own way Ron. I can’t be bothered arguing with you.
above facts speak for themselves , which is totally inconsistent with your unsubstustiated statement , thats why there is an inquiry
Someone didn’t vet Palin properly. A mistake they could very well come to regret.
Agree 100% with that Gary , usually politcal “operatives” do it , current information suggests that on our Laws basis someone is innocent until proven guilty so she’d likely be found innocent , but politcally just mere allegation should hav been enough to disqualify her as it allows negative storys
Plus experience factor am surprised wasn’t taken more into account
Yeah, they buggered it up royally
McCain suffers some damage out of this. He has chosen a person that might actually damage his position rather than enhance it. These from left-field decisions are supposed to be one his qualities, however it might prove a bit scary in the role of President.
I would rather have an intellectual deciding how to deal with international issues such as China and Russia than an unpredictable McCain or Palin if he should become indisposed. In addition I would rather not have the old Bush crowd continuing to influence foreign policy.
I wonder how long the Democrats will start to run the line of not risking someone ‘erratic’ running foreign policy?
yep Dario , baby story was nothing she’d consulted her doctor first , her 17 year old daughter’ pregnancy don’t think belongs on Worldwide media anyway & probably was a plus actualty now , but th Police one despite his numerous police violations is just not smart politics/vetting as allegations whether unproven still ar very damaging so she shouldn’t hav been considered
Of course choice was not very good either , th religous nutter th Huck , th Morman , and th 3 wives & strange life styles man Mr Rudi
Wish Economists from same Bank could agree , within just 24 hours
Saul Eastlake, ANZ BANK Chief Economist , ( said tonite)
I would venture that we’ll see ONE more this year, THREE during 2009, and possibly TWO in the first half of 2010
The Warren Hogan ANZ NANK head of Australian economics, (said last nite)
the financial markets were still expecting today’s interest rate cut to be followed by a further TWO cuts this year, and another TWO or THREE rate cuts in 2009 , did NOT mention anything re 2010
I,m anti war anti Bush anti Repub but I see things a bit different from most here.
Seems to me the Lady (as Ron calls her) has got Oilbama’s lot in a real flap. Otherwise why would they feel the need for personal attacks, ridicule and half truths, attacks on kids and hubbie (geez I could be talking about Rodent smeer and scare tactics! the Latham dirt files come to mind.) If she was such a dud wouldn’t they wan’t to keep her around the same way we love having Brenda to laugh at?
One thing for sure she’s getting all the publicity, mostly negative maybe, but I imagine the TV audience she gets when she makes her VP acceptance speech will make Oilbama’s speech ratings pale to insignifigance. Everyone want’s to check her out be they hoping for her to flop or to excel.
And O’s lot had better hope like hell that her speech isn’t a ripper or instead of talk of replacing her she may end up with Mccains job!
Hi Vera ,
i’ve given a politcal opinion about th allegation that I think sh’d be found innocent of if you look at my #201 and #197 , think its unfair & not ‘oz’ fair go
REMEMBER VP Joe biden agrees with bush’s Iraq policy and PUBLICLY says ‘USA should stay th course and ‘win’ ”
COMPARE THAT TO and you ar going to LOVE this
“I want to know that we have an exit plan (from Iraq) in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe. Every life lost is such a tragedy. I am very, very proud of the troops we have in Alaska, those fighting overseas for our freedoms, and the families here who are making so many sacrifices.
We are a nation at war and in many [ways] the reasons for war are fights over energy sources, which is nonsensical when you consider that domestically we have the supplies ready to go. Palin also stipulated that a clear exit plan for Iraq should not include concerns with oil or energy dependence, saying, “I’m a mom, and my son is going to get deployed in September, and we better have a real clear plan for this war. And it better not have to do with oil and dependence on foreign energy.”
Wonder whether Obama supporters will post here to support her opinion or Joe Biden’s ?
More good news for the economy and the government.
Oil Falls Toward $107 as Hurricane Fades
Oil slid to around $107 a barrel on Tuesday after initial reports showed Hurricane Gustav had spared major U.S. Gulf oil facilities.
U.S. crude was $107.16 a barrel by 9:21 a.m. EDT, down $8.30 from Friday’s close. It touched a session low of $105.46, its lowest since April 2.
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/business-markets-oil.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Another thing McCain has done in choosing Palin is that she will attract a lot of attention and distract some attention from McCain and, her performances will reflect on McCain. People will want to interview her more and quiz her more than usual.
She has a tough job in front of her. If they try to protect her too much it will show. I guess she is doing a lot of study. If she can come over as at least credible politician then good for McCain.
hello Ron
I think people are so anxious to see the back of Bush’s lot that they don’t want to even think of the posibility of the Democrats not winning.
me I’m a bit of a worry wort so consider the negatives a bit more lol
Ron, just reread you post and I like the fact she says the Iraq war was over oil
Vera , your first sentence hit th jackpot 100% with peoples thinking , any non Republican & so all th evidence oiliness has a sleezy history & is a phony is ignored Dis you notice th lady’s Iraq policy to get out of Iraq is firmer than Obama’s and owns up to th reelreason US ar there , oil not ‘democracy she cut thru th bullsh.t , average people like that
Apparently Mccain took $47 million for his campaign in August. I wonder how much was taken after his VP announcement?
wonder how many will answer my question (last sentence of #211) , Obama has over 300 million and don’t let anyone tell you its mums & dads $20 donation from a milion internet donors , hav been through th list many many hours , Lobbyists , Oil , insurance Lawyers etc
Reckon th Ladys Iraq opinion to get out & its about oil will be received well as VP vs Biden’s war mongering view his idea could be 20 years in iraq
September 2, 2008
The Democratic convention appears to have helped solidify support for Barack Obama among former Hillary Clinton supporters, with the percent saying they will vote for Obama in November moving from 70% pre-convention to 81% after the convention, and the percent certain to vote for Obama jumping from 47% to 65%.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/109957/Obama-Gains-Among-Former-Clinton-Supporters.aspx
Palin however does speak well.
Here she is congratulating the Alaskan Independence Party convention 2008.
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/sarah_palin_and_the_fringe_ala.html
Why do Gallup do a Poll between 2 conventions , instead of after both so you get a reel picture , except to make money
How can you support Biden’s Iraq policy over th Lady’s Iraq policy because I like hers , and am not impressed with non ‘oz’ ie US style dirty politcs concentrating away from reel policy issues (both VP’s on Iraq hav there Partys mixed up)
For those that like a bit of humour…..the brilliant Bill Leak.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/opinion/cartoons/
regardless of what side you are on in the POTUS debate here, this is pure gold. !
New South Welshies need a local council election thread William! (I know, it’s boring council elections, but the most colourful loonies come out to play).
This guy and his ilk aren’t colourful, they’re just plain deluded:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/candidates-play-white-australia-card/2008/09/02/1220121234486.html
The Shire xenophobic?
Mr Hodges – along with those who plan on voting for him – should be informed that as a Sutherland Shire councillor, he cannot control the flow of immigration into Australia.
I truly believed that Australia was over the Hansonesque “Asianisation” hysteria which was first sprouted 150+ years ago.
Betfair is interesting for President – McCain is $2.92. He was $2.66 straight after the Palin announcement and $2.74 the following day. He was $3.00 a couple of weeks ago. Looks like the punters (whatever they know) are seeing Palin as fairly irrelevant one way or the other.
Cynical thought for the day – if they want to withdraw Palin, what’s the betting that she (or better still, one of her family) will suddenly develop a completely unforeseeable health problem? One that requires lots of her time and attention.
Whatever happens, they won’t do an Eagleton!
It’s looking as though the Liberal senators have painted themselves into a corner and are just going to be a sidelined, irrelevant circus. The playmakers are turning out to be the Greens and minor parties. Maybe the Liberal’s decision to block the budget surplus was not smart politics.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/03/2353785.htm?section=justin
Fagin, ‘love’ this quote from Hodges:
“To ensure that the Sutherland Shire remains a safe, peaceful and harmonious community of Australian heritage, it is important to prevent overdevelopment,”
The only true ‘Australian heritage’ is that of the first Aussies, the rest is a hodgepodge of influences from recent arrivals, so I assume if, in the hopefully, extremely unlikely event he’s elected, Hodges won’t support the erection of anything more substantial than a wurlie. That should keep those ‘foreign devils’ outta the Shire! Sigh!!
There really should be a law that prevents people of his ilk, including a former PM with what I believe were similar convictions, from standing for any elected office, even secretary of the local tiddlywinks club.
I wonder how long it will take the polls to reflect the newfound ineffectiveness of the Liberal senators in finding a constructive role for themselves in the senate?
Steve – maybe the danger for the Libs isn’t any polling hit from being seen as irrelevant in the Senate, but from the polling hits that will flow from the consequences of that irrelevancy – such as giving the Libs far more time on their hands for internecine warfare over the leadership and factional jostling.
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sondeo
‘The Anchorage Daily Hardon’
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
MayoFeral Says:
I’m glad that someone else has made a statement such as this as I am having a running battle with a christian nutter on another forum on this very topic.
As for the Shire……the ghosts of Howard live on……I hope they pack up and go one day soon.
Not sure if this is right thread for this, apologies WB if its not
No charges will be recommended against Belinda Neal or John Della Bosca over the Iguanagate scandal by the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions.
But the careers of the political power couple still hang on the decision of the State DPP.
In a statement, NSW police said: “The Commonwealth DPP has determined there is no reasonable prospect of a successful prosecution for a Commonwealth offence and has recommended that no prosecution for a Commonwealth offence should be instituted.
“As a result of this advice, police will not proceed with any charges in relation to Commonwealth legislation.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/iguanagate-no-charges/2008/09/03/1220121282844.html
“I wonder how long it will take the polls to reflect the newfound ineffectiveness of the Liberal senators in finding a constructive role for themselves in the senate?”
The libs went white when Faulkner pointed this out to them in June.
Maybe why their press releases, like Turnballs, are becoming a touch unhinged, as they come to grips with irrelevancy.
Bush to apply the kiss of death to McCain.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24286514-601,00.html
Radio in my area is a bit pathetic so we resort to Radio National in the morning. Hubby and I dragged out of bed so late today that we were still breakfasting when the Religion Report started. It turned out to be a it of an eye opener, to say the least.
Can I suggest that someone tries to catch it on its site and give me an opinion please.
The conversation was with the author of new book about ‘The Family’ which is based in the US and is the Protestant equivalent of Opus Dei. Their influence is staggering with bankers, industry and politicians.
Author was asked if any Australian politicians were connected or had had any involvement with The Family. He replied – ‘yes, Bruce Baird, Ross Cameron and ….. Peter Costello’. Suddenly the chat was interrupted by some irrelevant, noisy broadcast which seemed to make no sense at that point in the conversation.
We both thought there was cross interference but, after a few sentences, Stephen Crittenden came back on and continued his conversation.
Was the discussion interrupted for a specific reason?
Can someone else pick it up and give an opinion please.
On the plane trip Palin took, its time to tip the bucket on doctors in general.
Despite suggestions to the contrary, I do not think doctors are special in any way. They are exactly the same as everyone else except they had to sit more exams for longer than most, but not all. Because of the extra study, they/we tend to be a bit dull and know very little about the world. When the real world and the medical world interact, there is a well described problem called the VIP Syndrome and Palin’s pregnancy is a good example of it.
In VIP Syndrome, VIP patients (especially politicians) often get WORSE outcomes than the average patient with more serious complications. The reasons are that the doctors panic and try to cut corners and do things they would never do with a non-VIP patient. I have seen it countless times and it’s well described in the literature. Many VIPs have died because of it. BTW John McCains mutilating scar on his left face is another example. That surgery was TOTALLY UNNECESSARY and there is NO evidence for having performed it. If it wasn’t McCain, he wouldn’t have had it.
In Palin’s scenario, there was;
1. Premature rupture of membranes at 36 weeks with contractions
2. Fifth pregancy (they come out quicker each time on average)
3. Down Syndrome
4. 8 hour flight
5. Planes are depressurised at high altitude which “sucks” the baby out
6. Illegal travel without informing the airline
Any sensible doctor would say she should have stayed in Texas. I’m betting that if a non-VIP patient rang her doctor with that story, he would have said stay in Texas. But the doctor stuffed up and made an unnecessarily risky and stupid decision because his patient was a VIP.
Sue H
The book is “The Family, by Jeff Sharlet” scary stuff.
It looks like Palin may have a Wright-like Pastor Problem.
Pastor Kalnins has preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war “contending for your faith;” and said that Jesus “operated from that position of war mode.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html
When Swann sarted to refered to the current Lib leadership as options A (Nelson), B (Costello) and C (Turnbull) in the HOR yesterday they all went berko and Swanny need a number of attempts to get his lines out. Maybe a sore point at the moment me thinks.
Not only are the realising their irrelevance they might be begining to see that to keep up with the government they will actually have to work hard like Rudd and Co did, having no civil servants to feed them. This working hard without the at-hand resources might all seem too hard, too demeaning or too much effort for some of them.
Turnbull seems to not be getting any better at being a politician either and consistently talking gibberish.
Thanks Ruawake – but why would the discussion have been interrupted so abruptly after Peter Costello’s name?
Will buy the book for our son who likes to read the ’scary stuff’ re various religions.
Obama hits 50% mark in Gallup poll
Barack Obama met the 50 percent threshold for the first time Tuesday in the Gallup daily tracking poll, a symbolic hurdle that until now had eluded the Democratic nominee.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13094.html
Thomas,
From today’s EV.
“Polling has been a bit slow due to the holiday weekend. It should pick up this week.
A new CBS national poll taken entirely after the Democratic convention puts Barack Obama ahead of John McCain 48% to 40%. The Gallup tracking poll makes it Obama 50%, McCain 43%. Rasmussen puts it at 47% to 44%. It appears that Obama got a small bounce from his convention. It won’t last. Now it is McCain’s turn.
For completeness sake, Zogby also released an Internet poll showing Obama 44%, McCain 43%, Barr 5%, and Nader 2%. Internet polls do not use random sampling so they should be taken with a barrel of salt. There is no way in the world Barr will get 5% nationally. Internet users are much more libertarian than the population as a whole”.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Maps/Sep02.html
Palin’s appearance makes it all interesting again.
Now only if they could ge Cossie to pull on a dress.
More like a salt mine worth… I don’t know why you are even bringing up such a ridiculous poll.
Sondeo @222
love the Leak cartoon. what about Brenda with a slingshot in his back pocket, heavy weaponry, he can take it next time he rides shotgun with a truckie. lol
Dario,
It is EV’s quote!!
I don’t want to be accused of “cherry picking”.
Applaud your completeness GG but I doubt anybody would have accused you for that.
Diogenes, Pastor Kalnins should sit on a cucumber positioned upright.
Cherry picking by excluding an internet poll? Never…
Yesterday you said it was th Lady’s fault despite being already a mother of 4 , you may now find th internet sites these days ar full of professional dirt merchants for both Partys peddling “facts” Today you (correctly) lay blame where it belongs th family Doctor , and thats who any mother relies on , of any politcal colour
Then for “balance” we get th fair & balanced Huff woman journo , mentioning a typical stupid ‘right’ evangelical priest for a VP vs a 20 year extremist whaco of whacos th Rev but NOT for a VP but for actualy th POTUS , no comparison , let alone all th subsequent 8 marks of backward stepping ‘clarifications” from version 1 to version 8 on TV tapes Th former man of cloth is a reel worry but th latter is an extremist nutter like Jerry Falwell Then there is th queston of publicly ordering a seat on th Gallactic of ‘informals’ seemingly since abandoned
But then we hav our own looneys our Pinapple party denied there 2 million Q’ld Liberal Partys asset bounty by a Trust Deed on one hand , a 75% “members” requiremnt on other yet to there horor those “members” may no longer be “Liberal member” but Pineapple ones , and just what overriding legal powers do National Liberal executive hav , now Q’ld Nats you would hav thought would hav decided how to grab th Q’ld Libs 2 million prize before th rape , like pre paying for a stripteez show and arriving all ” motivated” only to find th comedy show is playing
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