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		<title>By: Lentini</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-187721</link>
		<dc:creator>Lentini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dovif does that make Brodgen and Debnam the worst oppositions of all time? Or NSW the stupidest people of all time? Just sussing out your views on how it comes about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dovif does that make Brodgen and Debnam the worst oppositions of all time? Or NSW the stupidest people of all time? Just sussing out your views on how it comes about.</p>
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		<title>By: dovif</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-187657</link>
		<dc:creator>dovif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 07:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/1b-hole-no-time-to-explain-says-rees/2008/09/09/1220857531217.html

oh god! this is the worst government in history of mankind</description>
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<p>oh god! this is the worst government in history of mankind</p>
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		<title>By: Lentini</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-186102</link>
		<dc:creator>Lentini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hardly so very surprising, in this modern era, or pretty much any era governments can last only so long before the people find their rhetoric to be tiresome, get accustomed to the good things the government brings and stops really treating them as an achievement but as an expectation, and become less tolerant of the governments perenial shortcomings. 

Carr was the longest serving Premier since federation, with Iemma&#039;s re-election it was a new face and the people were a bit more tolerant but ultimately it&#039;s still a labor government. A fifteen year old government is a huge period, if they were to win re-election it would be remarkable twenty year government. In the days of profesional labor and liberal parties which I mark as commencing with the end of Arthur Calwell&#039;s departure the oppositions are too organised and you just accumulate too many slip ups over a long period of time. 

The election of Rudd didn&#039;t help either, truth be told is Australians don&#039;t like wall to wall governments. In 1995 under Paul Keating&#039;s prime ministry Bob Carr was elected the only labor premier, in 2002, 5 years after Liberals took federal Mike Rann becomes premier and ever state government is labor. We have this mentality that one will keep the other in line if they are from different parties I think and when both are from the same party we get scared and think they unrestricted. 

Really labors win at the last election was lucky at best. The Brogden meltdown and Debnam&#039;s silliness made what should have been libs with a small headstart a neck and neck thing, then the fresh faced Iemma smoothly replacing Bob Carr whom seemed to leave on his own terms and bearing the bulk of labors shortcomings on his shoulder gave Iemma his majority. But now the government is even older, the party leader is much more talented and the previous premier was pushed it seems makes victory for ALP seem impossible.  But Nathan and even Morris shouldn&#039;t feel too dissapointed with themselves, they&#039;ve managed to keep the opposition at bay for longer than most governments could dream of and destroyed two electable oppostion leaders in Brogden ad Chiko, by all means now is the time for Rees to roll the dice, who knows what next. Ultimately policy will not deviate that much from the days of old but the campaign manouvres will be interesting, expect him to stack the marginals with celebrities come election time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hardly so very surprising, in this modern era, or pretty much any era governments can last only so long before the people find their rhetoric to be tiresome, get accustomed to the good things the government brings and stops really treating them as an achievement but as an expectation, and become less tolerant of the governments perenial shortcomings. </p>
<p>Carr was the longest serving Premier since federation, with Iemma&#8217;s re-election it was a new face and the people were a bit more tolerant but ultimately it&#8217;s still a labor government. A fifteen year old government is a huge period, if they were to win re-election it would be remarkable twenty year government. In the days of profesional labor and liberal parties which I mark as commencing with the end of Arthur Calwell&#8217;s departure the oppositions are too organised and you just accumulate too many slip ups over a long period of time. </p>
<p>The election of Rudd didn&#8217;t help either, truth be told is Australians don&#8217;t like wall to wall governments. In 1995 under Paul Keating&#8217;s prime ministry Bob Carr was elected the only labor premier, in 2002, 5 years after Liberals took federal Mike Rann becomes premier and ever state government is labor. We have this mentality that one will keep the other in line if they are from different parties I think and when both are from the same party we get scared and think they unrestricted. </p>
<p>Really labors win at the last election was lucky at best. The Brogden meltdown and Debnam&#8217;s silliness made what should have been libs with a small headstart a neck and neck thing, then the fresh faced Iemma smoothly replacing Bob Carr whom seemed to leave on his own terms and bearing the bulk of labors shortcomings on his shoulder gave Iemma his majority. But now the government is even older, the party leader is much more talented and the previous premier was pushed it seems makes victory for ALP seem impossible.  But Nathan and even Morris shouldn&#8217;t feel too dissapointed with themselves, they&#8217;ve managed to keep the opposition at bay for longer than most governments could dream of and destroyed two electable oppostion leaders in Brogden ad Chiko, by all means now is the time for Rees to roll the dice, who knows what next. Ultimately policy will not deviate that much from the days of old but the campaign manouvres will be interesting, expect him to stack the marginals with celebrities come election time.</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-186073</link>
		<dc:creator>Progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the downside: Tripodi, Graham West and Kevin Greene survive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the downside: Tripodi, Graham West and Kevin Greene survive!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Fisher</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-186072</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s good news about Sartor and Meagher. Let&#039;s hope that they are replaced with more competent MPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s good news about Sartor and Meagher. Let&#8217;s hope that they are replaced with more competent MPs.</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-186068</link>
		<dc:creator>Progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rees reveals his new cabinet! 
SARTOR DUMPED! 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rees-reveals-new-team/2008/09/07/1220725820376.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rees reveals his new cabinet!<br />
SARTOR DUMPED!<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rees-reveals-new-team/2008/09/07/1220725820376.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rees-reveals-new-team/2008/09/07/1220725820376.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Piping Shrike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-185109</link>
		<dc:creator>The Piping Shrike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like the price of no privatisation is going to be a heavy one. I think with Rees we are about to see just what being from the &quot;Left&quot; faction means these days.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/06/2357283.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like the price of no privatisation is going to be a heavy one. I think with Rees we are about to see just what being from the &#8220;Left&#8221; faction means these days.<br />
<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/06/2357283.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/06/2357283.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: vera</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-184909</link>
		<dc:creator>vera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the independant for Lyne is getting lots of help.

&quot;Mr Oakeshott had about 700 volunteers handing out how-to-vote cards at booths on Saturday, including state NSW Labor MP, Kerry Hickey, state independent Tamworth MP, Peter Draper, and federal independent New England MP, Tony Windsor.&quot;
http://news.smh.com.au/national/nationals-prepare-to-lose-lyne-20080906-4b0u.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the independant for Lyne is getting lots of help.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr Oakeshott had about 700 volunteers handing out how-to-vote cards at booths on Saturday, including state NSW Labor MP, Kerry Hickey, state independent Tamworth MP, Peter Draper, and federal independent New England MP, Tony Windsor.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://news.smh.com.au/national/nationals-prepare-to-lose-lyne-20080906-4b0u.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.smh.com.au/national/nationals-prepare-to-lose-lyne-20080906-4b0u.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: rod</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-184847</link>
		<dc:creator>rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B&quot;aird is tainted by strong connections to “The Family”. 

&quot;Why don’t you Laborites ever acknowledge how bad NSW Labor actually is!&quot;

That&#039;s the difference between labor and liberal GP.

Labor eventually get rid of their trash whilst the libs let it stay there and fester and ferment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B&#8221;aird is tainted by strong connections to “The Family”. </p>
<p>&#8220;Why don’t you Laborites ever acknowledge how bad NSW Labor actually is!&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the difference between labor and liberal GP.</p>
<p>Labor eventually get rid of their trash whilst the libs let it stay there and fester and ferment.</p>
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		<title>By: Generic Person</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/05/iemma-out/comment-page-5/#comment-184792</link>
		<dc:creator>Generic Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No 232

Once again, the stupid lines about Christian fundamentalism. Hell, even if it&#039;s true, I&#039;d rather some Christian fundamentalists than the pack of idiots running the state now. Why don&#039;t you Laborites ever acknowledge how bad NSW Labor actually is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No 232</p>
<p>Once again, the stupid lines about Christian fundamentalism. Hell, even if it&#8217;s true, I&#8217;d rather some Christian fundamentalists than the pack of idiots running the state now. Why don&#8217;t you Laborites ever acknowledge how bad NSW Labor actually is!</p>
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