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Mayo by-election count thread

I will not be providing live blogging for either of tonight’s by-elections, but here’s a space for you all to discuss the figures from Mayo as they come in.

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  1. 151
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    2007 Lib overall 2PP was boosted by 0.6% by prepolls, provisionals, postals and absents. So looks like Greens need to get to something like 50.6 2PP on the night to win this. Currently the Libs are at 50.7. Day has dropped to just over 11 and Bell still has nearly seven points to catch the Greens off those votes plus 9.6 points of shrapnel. Again I doubt that’s all that realistic so *most likely* the Libs will scrape in but it’s not a good result for them.

  2. 152
    Nick
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    “Between 1996 and 2007 there were nine by-election, three in Liberal held seats and six in Labor held seat. In its eleven years in office, the Howard government never once nominated a candidate for a by-election in a Labor held electorate.”
    Antony Green

    But of course the ALP are ‘gutless’…

  3. 153
    Diogenes
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Spragg is a scientist who’s pro-Murray. His HTV has Briggs and day last. His preferences go to Vonow via Bell.

  4. 154
    Barry
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    SwingLowe @#143

    Here is a link to Bill Spragg’s website.
    http://www.billspragg.id.au/

  5. 155
    Berliner
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think this will make any difference with regards to Higgins. Yes the margin in Higgins is lower (I think) but its the kind of seat that doesn’t swing as such and is less attractive for minor party candidates. I’m not saying Labor couldn’t win Higgins in a by-election but its highly unlikely.

    Having said that, strange things often happen in by-elections.

  6. 156
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Four booths still to come in on primaries. Two of them very small (not sure what’s taking them so long). One of the others is Stirling West, one of the Greenest booths in the state, although not so good for Labor so may not apply this time.

  7. 157
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Now 51.48 TPP – Greens need to pull back a lot in Nairne and Goolwa without getting hit too bad in Strathalbyn…

  8. 158
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Andrew Castrique preferenced Bell 2 and the Greens 5.

  9. 159
    Josh WK
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Waiting for La Gumeracha

  10. 160
    AKP
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Day must be kicking himself for not directing preferences!

  11. 161
    Diogenes
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Malcolm King said this about the Murray;

    Unless someone is shot and the dams demolished, the greedy people will not release water. It will have to be compulsory acquisition.

    I think it’s safe to assume his preferences won’t end up with Briggs. :D

  12. 162
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone know what the Briggs v Bell 2PP would be?

  13. 163
    Lord D
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    2PP now 52-48 to the Libs, looks like they scraaape in.

  14. 164
    AKP
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    The AEC won’t count the Briggs V Bell 2CP until the full count is done on Monday, so the Libs can still lose it, keep the hope.

  15. 165
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Actually it looks like the AEC are factoring in polling booth differences in their 2PPs so when it was 50.16 it really *looked* that close (for a moment).

  16. 166
    Josh WK
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Waiting for 2CPs from:

    Callington
    Cherry Gardens
    Goolwa Central
    Gumeracha (both)
    Meadows
    Nairne
    Stirling West
    Strathalbyn
    Woodside

    Anyone offer comments on these places?

  17. 167
    chinda63
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    It says “projected” TPP, so maybe there is some degree of guestimation happening as well…

  18. 168
    Nostradoofus
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    AEC website only has 67.11% counted so far so hold your hats. 78 of 79 booths in though.

  19. 169
    chinda63
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    Gumeracha is Mary Brewerton’s home turf, so she might get her deposit back yet!

  20. 170
    Josh WK
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    That was Callington, result still very steady.

  21. 171
    Josh WK
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Or not.

    Callington back off the site, I think.

  22. 172
    Josh WK
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    And it’s back.

    Ufff. This is a silly count.

  23. 173
    Diogenes
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    The OO spins/ calls it for Briggs. The crap just keeps piling up there.

    On a two-party preferred basis, Mr Briggs had almost 55 per cent, enough for him to comfortably retain the seat for the federal opposition.

    Swing to Greens in Downer’s old seat
    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24305578-12377,00.html

  24. 174
    Josh WK
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Final Primaries in:

    VONOW, Lynton The Greens 14,188 22.57 +11.37
    BARONS, Rachael Conservatives for Climate and Environment 579 0.92 -0.33
    SPRAGG, Bill Independent 1,357 2.16 +2.16
    KEIZER, Mathew One Nation 410 0.65 +0.65
    BREWERTON, Mary Independent 1,507 2.40 +2.40
    CASTRIQUE, Andrew Australian Democrats 773 1.23 -0.29
    BRIGGS, Jamie Liberal 25,252 40.17 -10.22
    KING, Malcolm Ronald Independent 164 0.26 +0.26
    DAY, Bob Family First Party 7,024 11.17 +7.07
    McCABE, David D.L.P. – Democratic Labor Party 1,117 1.78 +1.78
    BELL, Di Independent 10,490 16.69 +16.69

  25. 175
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Gumeracha in completely.

    I don’t know how The Oz are projecting 55% TPP for Briggs – unless they’ve got different projection models to the AEC…

  26. 176
    AKP
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    The only hope is Bell now, sigh

  27. 177
    Josh WK
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    Lib on 25252

    Vonow + Bell on 24678

  28. 178
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    First prefs now returned for all booths

    Lib 40.17
    Green 22.57
    Bell 16.69
    Day 11.17
    rest 9.4

    Bell has a bit over 20 points of Day+rest to bridge almost six points to the Greens to win the seat. Greens can’t really do it from here barring something bizarre on postals (51.9:48.1 2PP, six booths to go.)

  29. 179
    AKP
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    I think the Oz are using the same predictor they use to explain the newspolls. :-)

  30. 180
    Lord D
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Oh, well, Libs down 10% on primaries is absolutely nothing for them to gloat about in a heartland seat.

  31. 181
    Scott
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    Fingers crossed for Bell.

  32. 182
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    Re the Aus story they filed with only 16% counted hence the too-high 2PP for Briggs.

  33. 183
    rod
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    So we have to wait till Monday night to for final outcome?

  34. 184
    Diogenes
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Kevin

    Well they made a bad mistake then!!

  35. 185
    Nick
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Back to 51.6:48.4

  36. 186
    Nick
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    51.5:48.5

  37. 187
    Josh WK
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    And back down to 51.6 with latest booth removed.

  38. 188
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Strathalbyn still not in – looks like a win for the Libs (unless Bell sneaks in front of the Greens on the actual preference count)…

  39. 189
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Given that Greens normally do very badly on postals this is going to be tough. We do well on absentees, but there will be trivial numbers of those (how many May voters are in Lyne today?) Prepolls can go either way.

    Bell might still be a shot though – she closed the gap a bit on the last few booths. Needs a bit under net 30% of the smaller guys and Day. Day has no chance of overtaking her.

    So if Day plus the minnows break 50% Bell, 30% Briggs, 20% Vonow then Bell’s in with a shot of overtaking Vonow. I don’t know how much better than him she’ll do, but you’d think 4% was not off the cards, and since Vonow’s likely to be above 46% even after postals you can’t rule her out.

  40. 190
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Postals will favour the Libs this time.

  41. 191
    Diogenes
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Charming.

    Plenty of staunch Liberal voters saw no reason to change, but with preferences likely to play a crucial role in the final outcome the Liberal Party used hardball tactics to grab second preference support.

    Several voters objected to a green pamphlet outlining Jamie Briggs’ environmental credentials which they claimed may imply he was in fact a Green.

    Others were appalled by a Liberal flyer reading: “If you are voting for Family First, please ensure you give your 2nd preference to Jamie Briggs, Liberal.”

    http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24304364-5006301,00.html

  42. 192
    vetman
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Must admit that the T-shirt the lib member handing out how to vote cards was wearing made them look like a green candidate.

  43. 193
    Oz
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Has counting stopped or what? Or are all the counters taking a break to watch the WA results.

  44. 194
    Rohan
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Anyone know much about Strathalbyn? What sort of demographic is it?

    The booth is a full 3.1% of the enrolment.

  45. 195
    Scott
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    God The Advertiser is hopeless…

    http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24303300-5006301,00.html

    Saying the seat has been Won, by the Libs! Anything could happen with a 2PP count with Di Bell vs Libs…

  46. 196
    Rohan
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Ah, ignore that!

    Oz, counting has stopped for the night. The rest will be prepoll, absent, postal and provisional.

    Final 2PP for tonight: 48.26 to 51.74.

    Assuming final 2CP will indeed by Green vs Liberal, this means that the Libs have won it.

  47. 197
    Scott
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Liberals claim victory in Mayo

    * Adelaide
    * September 6, 2008 – 9:34PM

    The Liberal Party has claimed victory in the by-election for the South Australian federal seat of Mayo.

    Liberal candidate Jamie Briggs said while the result was close it was enough for the him to take the seat ahead of Greens candidate Lynton Vonow.

    “We always knew it was going to be close but at the end of the day 50% plus one is enough,” Mr Briggs told AAP.

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/liberals-claim-victory-in-mayo-20080906-4b3u.html

  48. 198
    Wakefield
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Result not over yet. Quite a few votes still to count. And also hard to know whether Bell still has a chance. I would expect that Bell would get more votes than Vonow from other independents and FF but whether enough to get ahead of Vonow needs analysis. But if Bell gets ahead she would pick up a pretty high % of Green prefs. Wait and see.

  49. 199
    coconaut
    Posted Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    hmmm

  50. 200
    Peter Fisher
    Posted Sunday, September 7, 2008 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    Wow strong result by the Greens. The Democrats have confirmed in this election that they really are dead. They lost votes with no Labor candidate in a seat which they used to regularly attract over 10% (sometimes over 20%) of the vote.

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