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		<title>By: Bird of paradox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186878</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh. There&#039;s a link in the other thread (from the West) saying Grylls won&#039;t make a decision either way until Sunday, when the votes are in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh. There&#8217;s a link in the other thread (from the West) saying Grylls won&#8217;t make a decision either way until Sunday, when the votes are in.</p>
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		<title>By: shtuwang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186873</link>
		<dc:creator>shtuwang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s all i&#039;ve got... got a txt from an alp staffer mate (cleaning out
his desk at the time...lol...) claiming the nats have done a deal with 
the tories...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s all i&#8217;ve got&#8230; got a txt from an alp staffer mate (cleaning out<br />
his desk at the time&#8230;lol&#8230;) claiming the nats have done a deal with<br />
the tories&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of paradox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186820</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What what? More info please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What what? More info please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shtuwang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186813</link>
		<dc:creator>shtuwang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s all over... the libs have done a deal with grylls...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s all over&#8230; the libs have done a deal with grylls&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Thompson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186385</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen, re what will Tony Krstevic do for the &#039;Carine&#039; community - I guess we&#039;ll be able to answer your question in 4 years time, as is his due.
Would be nice to see him do some good work in collabaration with Bill at Council level re underground power etc.
As also requested my Policy Platform F.Y.I. as follows:

&#039;Mandatory Sentencing 

If elected, one of my main priorities will be to introduce a private member’s bill into Parliament to take the sentencing powers (for serious and life-threatening/taking crimes) away from Judges, and implement an immediate Mandatory sentence regime where a crime such as Manslaughter will once again attract a set, and suitable punishment/term of imprisonment. Mandatory sentencing for attacks on Public Officers must also be introduced.

 
If the jails are full, then other facilities need to be opened up and used to house lower-risk prisoners. Serious Crime MUST attract serious time – or the very fabric of respect for law and order will be lost on society, and there is no turning back when that becomes a reality.

Free Public Transport for Pensioners 24/7

Daylight Saving

Until voted otherwise by the public of W.A., the referendum result should rule the day.  We are a Democracy and, as such, we should respect and honour the majority vote.

Extended Trading Hours (including Sunday Trading)

Having been involved in Small Business since 1995, I have always held the belief that the Business Owner or Proprietor should have the right to decide. Relaxing the trading time rules and restrictions would obviously suit some businesses more than others, some staff more than others and some customers more than others. So while a decision either way could have serious implications for some or all businesses, I strongly feel that as long as that right is retained and protected, I would not resist any motions to change the existing regulations.

Ban portable Multa-nova use in metropolitan area

Another main priority would be to introduce a private members bill banning the use of all portable multa-nova cameras in the immediate metropolitan area.  The bill would dictate that the portable multa-nova cameras could only be used on outer country roads – specifically in known and proven ‘death trap’ locations where the legitimate use of the Cameras could be justified. The bill would dictate that more police would be patrolling the roads, with a far greater focus on driver education.

In tandem with introducing the Bill banning the use of portable Multa-Nova Cameras in and around the immediate metropolitan area, I will be recommending and lobbying support for the immediate shut-down and closure of the Road Safety Council. The Council has consistently failed in its designated agenda to reduce trauma and deaths on our roads. The ‘Towards Zero’ report just presented to the Government outlines plans for the State’s 12-year Road Safety strategy ahead, and involves spending an EXTRA $2.3 billion dollars moving forward. The document’s assertions and estimates cannot be backed up or believed based on previous failures and non-performing campaigns – and therefore the Council should be scrapped in its entirety. The money already allocated plus the recommended funding moving forward should be incorporated into providing more police on the roads, and more police on the beat. This State already suffers from an unacceptable ‘Road Rage’ culture, ever present on our roads - and this has been borne out by the failures of previous Road Safety campaigns over the last decade. 

Having more Police on the road would once again put them in a position to punish bad driving on the spot, and educate errant drivers – our roads would be that much safer as a direct result. Multa-novas when used by stealth have been proven to do nothing, other than raise copious amounts of money for the State Treasury. However, I am in favour of fixed cameras being utilized 24/7 on our Freeways and Highways and in the Polly Farmer Tunnel. When they are fixed, and you know they are there, they will serve their purpose (for all the right reasons) and people will tend to drive more appropriately - or continue to pay the consequences accordingly. More portable Multa-Nova cameras are not the serious solution – they have simply become a scourge on society as a handful of warts that won’t go away and the secret is well and truly out.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen, re what will Tony Krstevic do for the &#8216;Carine&#8217; community &#8211; I guess we&#8217;ll be able to answer your question in 4 years time, as is his due.<br />
Would be nice to see him do some good work in collabaration with Bill at Council level re underground power etc.<br />
As also requested my Policy Platform F.Y.I. as follows:</p>
<p>&#8216;Mandatory Sentencing </p>
<p>If elected, one of my main priorities will be to introduce a private member’s bill into Parliament to take the sentencing powers (for serious and life-threatening/taking crimes) away from Judges, and implement an immediate Mandatory sentence regime where a crime such as Manslaughter will once again attract a set, and suitable punishment/term of imprisonment. Mandatory sentencing for attacks on Public Officers must also be introduced.</p>
<p>If the jails are full, then other facilities need to be opened up and used to house lower-risk prisoners. Serious Crime MUST attract serious time – or the very fabric of respect for law and order will be lost on society, and there is no turning back when that becomes a reality.</p>
<p>Free Public Transport for Pensioners 24/7</p>
<p>Daylight Saving</p>
<p>Until voted otherwise by the public of W.A., the referendum result should rule the day.  We are a Democracy and, as such, we should respect and honour the majority vote.</p>
<p>Extended Trading Hours (including Sunday Trading)</p>
<p>Having been involved in Small Business since 1995, I have always held the belief that the Business Owner or Proprietor should have the right to decide. Relaxing the trading time rules and restrictions would obviously suit some businesses more than others, some staff more than others and some customers more than others. So while a decision either way could have serious implications for some or all businesses, I strongly feel that as long as that right is retained and protected, I would not resist any motions to change the existing regulations.</p>
<p>Ban portable Multa-nova use in metropolitan area</p>
<p>Another main priority would be to introduce a private members bill banning the use of all portable multa-nova cameras in the immediate metropolitan area.  The bill would dictate that the portable multa-nova cameras could only be used on outer country roads – specifically in known and proven ‘death trap’ locations where the legitimate use of the Cameras could be justified. The bill would dictate that more police would be patrolling the roads, with a far greater focus on driver education.</p>
<p>In tandem with introducing the Bill banning the use of portable Multa-Nova Cameras in and around the immediate metropolitan area, I will be recommending and lobbying support for the immediate shut-down and closure of the Road Safety Council. The Council has consistently failed in its designated agenda to reduce trauma and deaths on our roads. The ‘Towards Zero’ report just presented to the Government outlines plans for the State’s 12-year Road Safety strategy ahead, and involves spending an EXTRA $2.3 billion dollars moving forward. The document’s assertions and estimates cannot be backed up or believed based on previous failures and non-performing campaigns – and therefore the Council should be scrapped in its entirety. The money already allocated plus the recommended funding moving forward should be incorporated into providing more police on the roads, and more police on the beat. This State already suffers from an unacceptable ‘Road Rage’ culture, ever present on our roads &#8211; and this has been borne out by the failures of previous Road Safety campaigns over the last decade. </p>
<p>Having more Police on the road would once again put them in a position to punish bad driving on the spot, and educate errant drivers – our roads would be that much safer as a direct result. Multa-novas when used by stealth have been proven to do nothing, other than raise copious amounts of money for the State Treasury. However, I am in favour of fixed cameras being utilized 24/7 on our Freeways and Highways and in the Polly Farmer Tunnel. When they are fixed, and you know they are there, they will serve their purpose (for all the right reasons) and people will tend to drive more appropriately &#8211; or continue to pay the consequences accordingly. More portable Multa-Nova cameras are not the serious solution – they have simply become a scourge on society as a handful of warts that won’t go away and the secret is well and truly out.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186352</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>980 Wayne Thompson &quot;I’m not interested in playing the racial card&quot; - nor am I, I referred to the Liberal candidate that way because I don&#039;t know his name.  Primarily, I object to these candidates placed in electorates where they are not known, where they have never lived, and where they have no history of being involved in helping the community.  Of course, this applies to many Perth electorates, where there are worthwhile applicants for political roles who do not fit in with the ALP/Liberal puppeteers.  These well-paid politicians are meant to serve their community - what do you think your new representative will do for the Carine electorate?

By the way, what were your areas of concern and policies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>980 Wayne Thompson &#8220;I’m not interested in playing the racial card&#8221; &#8211; nor am I, I referred to the Liberal candidate that way because I don&#8217;t know his name.  Primarily, I object to these candidates placed in electorates where they are not known, where they have never lived, and where they have no history of being involved in helping the community.  Of course, this applies to many Perth electorates, where there are worthwhile applicants for political roles who do not fit in with the ALP/Liberal puppeteers.  These well-paid politicians are meant to serve their community &#8211; what do you think your new representative will do for the Carine electorate?</p>
<p>By the way, what were your areas of concern and policies?</p>
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		<title>By: Hereford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186332</link>
		<dc:creator>Hereford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this Mr Grylls doing Mr Bean impersonations?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/07/2357669.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this Mr Grylls doing Mr Bean impersonations?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/07/2357669.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/07/2357669.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hereford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186326</link>
		<dc:creator>Hereford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALP-Nat coalition... heaven forbid... ALP selling its soul to the agrarian socialists! The irony would be that the so-called royalties for regions could be spent shoring up ALP vote in Kalgoorlie, Northwest, Pilbara, Kimberley and Albany as well as throwing a sh*tload at Collie-Preston in a bid to regain the seat next time...

Also use it to target Eyre (with a view to a Nat win next time) and keeping Nats happy in Moore...

Such a coalition would have back at the hustings quicker than a Lib-Nat coalition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALP-Nat coalition&#8230; heaven forbid&#8230; ALP selling its soul to the agrarian socialists! The irony would be that the so-called royalties for regions could be spent shoring up ALP vote in Kalgoorlie, Northwest, Pilbara, Kimberley and Albany as well as throwing a sh*tload at Collie-Preston in a bid to regain the seat next time&#8230;</p>
<p>Also use it to target Eyre (with a view to a Nat win next time) and keeping Nats happy in Moore&#8230;</p>
<p>Such a coalition would have back at the hustings quicker than a Lib-Nat coalition</p>
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		<title>By: Boerwar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186316</link>
		<dc:creator>Boerwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two thoughts, which may have been raised elsewhere in this string, if so, sorry, I can&#039;t keep up with the string. Work to do.

1. If the libnats have a majority of one, won&#039;t they have to provide the speaker? And if a vote is tied, is there some sort of rule which says the speaker has to vote one way or another?

2. How about the proposition that it would be very smart politics for the nats to support labour? They would have a valid reason: the labs have the most seats. It would also ensure that the libs would never again take them for granted. Also, while it might lose them a few torynat voters, it won&#039;t lose them many - they have nowhere else to go. Plus they will enjoy all the moolah the nats will extort from lab.
Not sure that it would be smart politics for lab to jump into bed with the nats, but power is a powerful drug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two thoughts, which may have been raised elsewhere in this string, if so, sorry, I can&#8217;t keep up with the string. Work to do.</p>
<p>1. If the libnats have a majority of one, won&#8217;t they have to provide the speaker? And if a vote is tied, is there some sort of rule which says the speaker has to vote one way or another?</p>
<p>2. How about the proposition that it would be very smart politics for the nats to support labour? They would have a valid reason: the labs have the most seats. It would also ensure that the libs would never again take them for granted. Also, while it might lose them a few torynat voters, it won&#8217;t lose them many &#8211; they have nowhere else to go. Plus they will enjoy all the moolah the nats will extort from lab.<br />
Not sure that it would be smart politics for lab to jump into bed with the nats, but power is a powerful drug.</p>
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		<title>By: kpd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/06/western-australian-election-live/comment-page-20/#comment-186299</link>
		<dc:creator>kpd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>962
BBD
Sorry, been away. BBD this is the whole point. The Libs and the ALP only have a limited membership as do the unions. Problem being that the whole state gets to vote for the Libs or ALP even though we may not be members of either clan.

With the unions, only members get to vote BUT unfortunately ALL working people have to put up with their bu##sh## antics and they CLAIM they have the right to negotiate for ALL the working class. 

What a crock. It is you my friend who needs to get a grip.......... or have you already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>962<br />
BBD<br />
Sorry, been away. BBD this is the whole point. The Libs and the ALP only have a limited membership as do the unions. Problem being that the whole state gets to vote for the Libs or ALP even though we may not be members of either clan.</p>
<p>With the unions, only members get to vote BUT unfortunately ALL working people have to put up with their bu##sh## antics and they CLAIM they have the right to negotiate for ALL the working class. </p>
<p>What a crock. It is you my friend who needs to get a grip&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. or have you already?</p>
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