| ALP | LIB | Total | |
| Riverton | 8002 | 8034 | 16036 |
| Wanneroo | 7299 | 7293 | 14592 |
| Albany | 8182 | 8065 | 16247 |
| Forrestfield | 8177 | 7935 | 16112 |
| Collie-Preston | 8299 | 7883 | 16182 |
3pm Sunday. This post will be used to follow developments in the late count. Labor can still form a minority government if it wins four out of the above five seats, remembering that in 2005 they generally did about 2 per cent worse on absent and postal votes than on booth votes. Going on the 2005 result we could expect each to seat to have about 400 postal and 2000 absent votes outstanding, although I hear there was an unusually high number of absent votes due to confusion over the new boundaries.
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Malcolm Farr reckons she is hot
The Libs couldn’t possibly re-elect Buswell as leader. Surely. Don’t they have anybody else.
I saw him interviewed on the ABC on election night and he made some double meaning comment on how needed to keep his extremeties warm in the evening chill. It came out of left field and I was rather surprised to hear this. So was the interviewer, she remarked how his comments could have been misinterpreted and how easily Buswell seems to get himself into trouble.
The man doesn’t seem to have the maturity or understanding on the expectations of behaviour required for a public figure. It was election night after all with a large captive audience.
Who else do they have and they are stupid?
I am interested to know which party was preferenced by the Nat voters in their winning seats.
surely they preferenced majority Liberal in all seats, and would abhor then going in cahoots with the ALP?
This could be a very risky strategy for Nat in the long run for short term gain.
I don’t think the 4 odd percent swing in the metro area to oust Labor would be real happy with the few voters for the Nats that would support Grylls actions
Besides Shadow Attorney General Christian Porter - not many.
William
In th list of 5 seats , notice you did not include Morley where Labor holds only 0.4% margin on 75.8% count , would hav thought that was equaly at least as marginal as Collie where Labors margin is 0.9% count 74.8%
Also Guys , can not believe this unrealistic media ’spin’ of Nats going into coalition with Labor , I’m so confident this is fairyland stuff if it happened then I’d spend a whole day here agreeing with everything ESJ said
hi frank
where do you feel this will end up
hell , not sure whether I should hav put some on conditions on ESJ there
ron
wash mouth soap
didnt the libs win morley
Yes the Libs won Morley. Best to use the WAEC figures, not the ABC figures.
That said, I notice the WAEC still have no preference count for Kwinana.
Nats will form an “alliance” with Labor in return with his Rural Royalty Fund - Libs pissed him off when Barnett publicly snubbed him on August 11th.
Barnett will retire again, he’ll be pilloried by losing the unlosable election for not playing footsies with The Nats, Deidre will win a By-Election and she will become Leader.
Seeing Barnett fail to form government in the circumstances contemplated would give me as much pleasure as watching eagles supporters faces as their team lost a game by a point from a goal kicked after the siren…………..
mmmmmmmmmmm the very thought….
thanks frank
will the public view it as the lesser of two evils (the lab-nat alliance that is)
do you think.
Good quesrtion, those who ring talkback and read perth now and The West and comment on their blogs will go feral at the Nats, Joe Bogan - who knows.
Morely , WAEC has same vote count figures as ABC (which shows Labor 50.4%)
http://www.waec.wa.gov.au/elections/state_elections/election_results/2008_State_General_Election/District_of_Morley/District_results.php
where are later figures
this is the only two party i could find for morley has the libs out in front by a little bit http://www.waec.wa.gov.au/elections/state_elections/election_results/2008_State_General_Election/District_of_Morley/notional_distribution_of_preferences.php
No counting today, recommence tomorrow, those figures at close of counting.
No 164
I don’t see how that could possibly be the case given the significant swing against the ALP statewide. Clearly, there was an intention to do major damage to Labor and thus they should be shafted to opposition. Either way, it is entirely likely that WA citizens will return to the polls momentarily as the Nats behaviour is unsustainable long term.
But the Libs only 2.1% of that swing, the rest went to the Greens and Independents, so it’s a bad result for the Libs as well.
GP@169
dude cut the numero crap (please)
the intent of the public was certainly clear BUT was it an outright flogging or perhaps a minor spanking
the fact that the naats have entered into formal negotians suggests a spanking
ps did the libs get over 50% plus 1 of the vote perchance generic person?
negotians should be negotiations
So it is not as though they wanted the Libs to be the govt either
The public basically said they dont want either
however ALP will have most seats, which you think would mean they are most entitled (and not by a lot) to form government
Cracks in the NATS would make the political scene so much more fun to watch and the OO worth reading again just to see their gnashing of teeth.
And none of the seats the Libs did win were won on Primaries alone, they ALL need preferences from the CDP & FF to get over the line.
No 170
According to the ABC site, 2.9% to the Libs and 1.2% to the Nats, yet there was a 2.1% swing away from from “Others” (which I presume mostly includes independents).
I’d say it’s a pretty bloody good result for the Libs considering:
1. Colin Barnett became leader just a day prior to the calling of the election
2. They were starved of 2 weeks of oxygen due to the Olympics
3. The Troy Buswell factor.
You’d have to be delusional to proclaim the result as anything but good for the Libs.
What’e the bet Labor pull the pin on the Ellenbrook rail line - they lost Swan Hills anyway - and pump the cash to the Nats’ slush fund in exchange for support?
I f***ing hate the Nationals, and tend to agree with Keating’s description of them as “that vile entity”, but hey, power is power….
frank
please clarify 176 - do you mean every seat?
No 171
I can hardly see the Nats getting into bed with Labor. Furthermore, given the immediate proximity of government, Barnett would be a fool not to capitulate to the Nationals. $700 million is doable with the enormous surpluses thanks to the mining boom.
Nats are a short-term phenomenon with these overstated numbers. Both Carps and Barnett should advise them accordingly but the ALP is desperately keen for salvage. I think the ALP will do a better deal by a long chalk (or should that be a country mile) than the Libs. But fi they do, it won’t hold. Grylls is trying to reverse the move to one-vote, one-value and the consequent diminishing of the Nats and has done a good job - but who else will support him? Only short term political needs will fill his wish list - the Nats will follow the South Australian example into oblivion. Being a Minister in a hostile government hasn’t helped them much there.
GP
its not doable under the present royalty equalisation arrangement with the Commonwealth
Somethign else would have to go
I should clarify my statement by saying that it’s based on the 2 or 3 lib gained seats I clicked on, but the general trend I noticed that I didn’t see any with 50.1% of the Primary vote.
Seats the Libs won off labor, which either a new seat, or a seat with no sitting member.
I think both major parties would do well to sideline the Nats, by either forming an understanding on some issues (eg confidence, supply) or by convincing some Nats to switch sides. The latter would really only apply to the Libs presumably. Hopefully we’ll have another election shortly and we can give one of the major parties the majority it needs in the lower house.
There is a big discreprency between the Primary votes counted in Wanneroo (18491 formal) and the amount shown in the Notional 2PP (14592).
My info is that Libs are actually reasonably ahead, not ALP by 6 votes.
No 176
I could say the same thing about Labor in the Federal Election. The ALP relied heavily on Green preferences to win. Howard won Bennelong on the primary vote, for example.
Frank for a long time now labor has won seats thanks to the greens preferences thats our system so you cant winge about losing seats because of the minor partys
I’m not whinging - I’m pointing out a political fact to the Libs here claiming Barnett is the second coming.
Frank
seems to me that it was more a ‘im pissed off vote’ than a clear “kick labor in the goolies vote”
the grand coalition (lab/nat) should help the nats maintain some sort of political relevance
this election has proven the lib brand electoral poison
Frank, political fact is five weeks ago the Liberals faced Queensland style oblivion.
Even if the Libs don’t form government, Colin Barnett has saved the party.
But the Libs also promised the Ellenbrook line, let them wear the cost overruns and budget blowouts when the boom go pearshaped
well regardless of if the nats dance with the devil (which will not go down well with there voters) and form government with labor wa has spoken labor has lost an estimated 8 to ten seats and have had huge swings in safe seats
people clearly wanted change or they would not have voted liberal and prefrence liberals in front of labor when voting green
Until Barnett pulls the pin because Brendan won’t let him play in the rural sandpit that is.
The Libs will payout BIGTIME if Barnett blows this. It will make the last ALP preselection battle look like the United Nations.
southernboy
“people clearly wanted change ”
then why wasnt a clear majority of seats won by the libs?
as people have mentioned on here usally is 70% preferance flow from green to labor not this election ill give you on exsample in darling range it was 40% to 45% to the liberals from the greens
No 182
Explain how it isn’t possible. Over 2.5 billion is received in royalties from the royalties equalisation agreement plus the government is running billion dollar surpluses. I’d say it’s affordable and I reiterate that Barnett would be dumb not to capitulate to most, if not all, of the Nats requests. Otherwise, why bother suspending your retirement if only to stay in opposition another four years.
Lol i think if bit city projects get canned, city voters will be rightfully pissed
This whole Nationals notion that simply becuase there are some mines and farms in the country that they somehow deserve all the money for being next to them is stupid.
No 195
gusface, stop trying to repackage what is undoubtedly a very poor result for Labor.
Labor should have easily maintained government given the amount of free kicks it got out of the Buswell scandal.
The numbers don’t lie - if the voters wanted a bloodbath, they would’ve placed Greens last.
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