This fortnight’s Newspoll shows Labor’s two-party lead unchanged on 56-44. Kevin Rudd’s approval rating is down three points to 62 per cent, while Brendan Nelson’s is up two to 16 per cent.
The weekly Essential Research survey has Labor retaining its 59-41 lead. Peter Costello is rated best person to lead the Liberals by 26 per cent against 13 per cent for Malcolm Turnbull, 8 per cent for Julie Bishop and 7 per cent for Brendan Nelson. However, Kevin Rudd is preferred to Peter Costello head-to-head 53 per cent to 27 per cent.
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GP @ 546,
Be that as it may be, I can’t see what the Libs would have had to lose by letting it through.
Of course a lower surplus is an option. Provided the Libs promise not to criticise us for spending it on pensions – a totally unproductive form of expenditure when viewed from the perspective of a millionaire shadow treasurer.
vera @ 549,
Don’t worry, there’ll be plenty of ruthless stacking of public bodies (the other way) under Labor …
GG, i will stick to the “Maggie May” moment with the old spunk Hillary
Well Adam, that’s one problem of being in Government, you do tend to get criticised … (though as per my earlier comment, I doubt it would be in the Libs’ best interests to criticise a pension increase).
555 they could hardly criticise it now after Nelson’s comments. (Though if he were no longer leader…..)
I would rate Adams and Albtrechtson is about equal in their vileness and stupidity.
No 551
Politically they didn’t have anything to lose, but if the Senate is a supposed to be a house of review, then it should not be letting stupid legislation through, especially legislationt that effectively imposes a command-and-control communist pricing system on the service station sector.
I found it absolutely outrageous that a service station owner was fined thousands of dollars for reducing his prices without notifying fuelwatch in WA. Dumb.
Chris Bowen needs to get his head out of his arse. This doesn’t help consumers, it punishes them and punishes small business.
Finns,
You know what this is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xikQ0c5KdZE
No 558
Disagree. Janet is fabulous.
Dyno, yes that’s probably true. But there are many other pressures on the budget at present, such as catching up with 11 years of criminal neglect of the national infrastructure, catching up with the world on broadband, redressing a decade of inequitable school funding, not to mention the totally f*cked state of agriculture. Are pensioners more deserving than schoolkids or farmers forced off their land? I don’t know.
Yes, GP, you only object to vileness when it comes from the left. I object to it wherever it comes from.
10 news said Brenda is going to have himself a policy! To be released in a couple of days and it is going to be a pension increase.
Getting desperate for a ratings boost I’d say and probably figures it worked when he promised his 5c petrol cut and the boys in their utes loved his stance on Bundimixers.
GP – Some people have the good fortune to marry well.
ESJ @ 564,
Que?
No 564
Janet is a pretty good sort, if you don’t mind my saying so! A saucy conservative sex goddess!
No doubt Nelson will tell us (a) why he didn’t advocate a pension increase when he was in office and (b) where the money will come from.
ESJ,
Is Janet a Pollbludger fan?
Adam,
Apparently, he has been advised there are pensioners.
Populist Nelson to strike again. It was a 5c petrol excise cut, so a $5 pension increase?
Phillip & Janet ar in there fairylands , phillip loved by th butterflys in far left so his ‘Palin’ post was mostly for them , whilst our Janet posts to rusted on consevatives on ‘right’ , althoug her Dear John public letter to Howard in September pleading with him to resign for good of Party was a tear jerker
Reality with th Budget is Howard created middle income welfare for politcal gain that takes a big splice out of outlays , but for no productive purpose AT EXPENSE of infrastructure spending , pensioners , MRB , schools etc , and untangling that 12 years Budgetary structural imbalance is not a short term possibility
Worst of all, where ar National ‘dividends’ from longest economic upturn in ‘oz’ history incl mining boom
No 567
I agree that it makes no sense for Nelson to be screaming outrage given that 9 months ago we were in government and know full well that a significant increase is very costly.
Right on all counts, Ron.
Problem is Ron, I’m more likely to read a coherent argument from Janet or a leftist on this blog than I am from Phillip Adams who has a penchant for bilious communism.
well also Generic Person more to point , Pensioner income problems did NOT start on 24/10/07 , so Nelson is being absolutely hypocriccal
So the Doc has sat in the gutter at 3am, sat next to a truckie for a couple of days…………so tomorrow is he going to sit with a pensioner and eat a “pal rissole”?
No 575
Yes, but so is Rudd. He claimed to end the blame game, yet has deflected the cause of the economic problems toward the former Howard government.
Generic Person
#574
“Problem is Ron, I’m more likely to read a coherent argument from Janet or a LEFTIST on this blog ”
Generic Person , ar you equating me Ronaldo with Janet as equally coherent
red
if your still lurking sbs is running a doco now on it
No 2
you recognise a coherent argument?
sheesh ive heard it all
Nb red well not nelson but the cern thingy
No 578
Make of it what you will.
Ron @ 578,
You and Janet are both well worth reading.
GP,
More blather.
Since July 1, tax cuts add dollars to fmailies.
Petrol price drop adds dollars to the family budget
Pay increase for low paid workers applies from July 1
Interest rate decrease with the possibility of more to come.
This is the recession you never had
GP stop taking Rudd out of context, it’s getting extremely boring. He said he would end the blame game with the states, not the previous government.
No 583
1. Tax cuts 100% donated by Peter Costello.\
2. Petrol prices reached record levels under Rudd
3. Pay increases occurred under Howard frequently.
4. Interest rates were at their lowest in 30 years under Howard. As was inflation and unemployment.
GG, check your facts before accusing me of posting blather.
Well Generic Person & Dyno posts #581 and #582 , would I luv to swap positions for a day and most my lingos and principals to those ‘oz’ newspaper rusted on petals for a day…Uncle Rupert would receive many complimentary calls
No 584
No he didn’t. He has since said that he takes full responsibility for the economy, yet in the next breath blames Howard and Costello.
Rudd never had it so good. Luckiest incoming PM & Treasurer in history.
GP, how can the current state of affairs in Australia, whether it’s pensions or broadband or schools or infrastructure, NOT be the responsibility of the Howard government, who were in power for 11 years to last November? Howard was quite happy on election night to claim credit for the state of things he was handing on to Rudd, so y’all will just have to wear it for a few years yet.
I don’t think Adams is a communist any more than I think Albrechtson is a Nazi. They are just both nasty ideologically driven fools.
Howard treasurer 1982 , 11% interest rates , 11% unemployment and inflation out of control…need to look at politcans & th economic cycyle collectively
No 2
why couldnt howard/costello gives us at least just 1 rate cut in seven years if they were so good?
Doing business US style!
{NEW YORK (CNN) — When it came to buying influence in Washington, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were among Corporate America’s biggest spenders.
The two mortgage giants paid $174 million to lobbyists over the past ten years to ensure the political climate would remain friendly to growing the mortgage business – even as the housing bubble began showing signs of bursting, according to a report by the Center for Responsive Politics, a watchdog group.
“They tied up almost every lobbying firm in Washington, whether they used them or not, over the past several years,” said Joshua Rosner, a financial analyst with Graham Fisher & Co. and long-time critic of both companies.
Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500) spent over $94.8-million on lobbyists since 1998, making it the nation’s 12th-largest lobbying client, while Fannie Mae (FNM, Fortune 500) bought $79.5-million of influence, the 20th biggest spender, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
“They wanted to fend off regulation of their enterprises,” said Massie Ritsch of the Center.}
http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/08/news/companies/fan_fred_buying/?postversion=2008090908
ron,
1982/3 I was paying 13.5%.
GP,
This is fun.
1. Howard proposed them and Rudd endorsed. Who passed them?
2. Petrol prices rising and falling is a Labor responsinbility? I think you are talking to a slightltly more sophisticated audience.
3. The workers are singing his praises.
4. And interest rates will most likely be lower at the next election.
I knew it was between 11 and 15 , so was consevative picking 11% frankly as Howard Treasurer achieved th trifecta of all 3
You mean like Graham Kennedy did on Kingswood Country ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlkEIrrw8NQ
segment starts at 1.28
GG
“4. And interest rates will most likely be lower at the next election”
comparison is worse for Howard , last interest rate rise was start of year that clearly belongs to cossie on economic Budgetary responsibility , working from memory so believe interst rates at end of 12 years were I believe within 0.25% of what they were at start
No 588
1. I think spending on pensioners was excessive during the Howard years.
2. The public v private debate has moved on. Ask Julia Gillard – she agrees that such a debate is no longer appropriate. The fact is that every dollar spent on education is a dollar well spent. I might also remind you that constitutional arrangements decree that state governments are responsible for the provision of public education. The Federal Government is responsible for private schools and tertiary education.
3. broadband was being adequately provided by the market. The federal government only intervened for rural areas where the market was presumed to have failed. The Liberals do not believe in providing services that the market can otherwise provide.
4. Infrastructure spending was extensive in the Howard years, particularly on roads. 20 billion plus Auslink 1 and Auslink 2, roads to recovery and so on.
Actually it’s 1.26.
ron, looks like oilness did well out of Fannie & Freddy too.
{Campaign contributions bought influence as well, including donations to the presidential candidates.
Sen. Barack Obama is the No. 3 recipient of Fannie and Freddie campaign dollars, having collected $123,000 from the companies since he first ran for the Senate in 2004, according to the Federal Election Commission and the Center for Responsive Politics.
The former chief executive of Fannie Mae, James Johnson, was the original head of Obama’s vice presidential search team. Johnson resigned from Obama’s campaign amid controversy over discounted home loans he had received.
Sen. John McCain has received $19,000 from the two companies in the past ten years.}
http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/08/news/companies/fan_fred_buying/?postversion=2008090908
No 594
Mr Howard’s record as Treasurer is irrelevant given that he operated in a totally different economy. The major structural reforms: floating of the dollar and financial deregulation which occurred under Hawke/Keating is the point at which fair comparisons can begin.
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