Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth

Newspoll: 56-44

This fortnight’s Newspoll shows Labor’s two-party lead unchanged on 56-44. Kevin Rudd’s approval rating is down three points to 62 per cent, while Brendan Nelson’s is up two to 16 per cent.

The weekly Essential Research survey has Labor retaining its 59-41 lead. Peter Costello is rated best person to lead the Liberals by 26 per cent against 13 per cent for Malcolm Turnbull, 8 per cent for Julie Bishop and 7 per cent for Brendan Nelson. However, Kevin Rudd is preferred to Peter Costello head-to-head 53 per cent to 27 per cent.

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  1. 851
    The Finnigans
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Cossie is kaput according to Lateline

  2. 852
    gusface
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    lateline reporting smh exclusive
    Costello to leave

  3. 853
    Ron
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    so what you ar saying is we ar reely not here at all

  4. 854
    Vincent Vega
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    He, he. Beat me to it Finnigans.

    Domino effect; first Costello, then Nelson.

  5. 855
    The Finnigans
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    Nelson’s timing, as usual, is hopeless. His pension private bill next week will sink without a trace. Being swept away by Cossie book tsunami.

  6. 856
    Thomas Paine
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Is the book being serialised in the SMH?

  7. 857
    Vincent Vega
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Has there been any recent Rudd v Turnbull polling? Now looks inevitable that Turnbull will take over very shortly.

  8. 858
    marky marky
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Costello- it was all a media beat up, he never wanted the leadership and said so in November. This never changed. And for the Sydney Morning Herald to beat up just so we can buy the paper shows what the media is about.
    Turnbull will be the next leader this time next year, and the conservatives will love him.

  9. 859
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    TP

    Yes.

  10. 860
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    OMG Tip is quitting???? I HAD NO IDEA!!!! What a joke

  11. 861
    gusface
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    its on
    hartcher has said nelson wont be leader by end of year
    abbott on now

  12. 862
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Ron not sure about the bounce suspect Obama is finished. On trust and super diversions yes they are wrong should be abolished.

  13. 863
    marky marky
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Labor should start the republic debate again, this would bury Turnbull. Image the conservatives fighting with Turnbull on this.

  14. 864
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Diogenes, I suppose what I meant by nothing is that for whatever there is left, it would be impossible for the universe to self create?

  15. 865
    The Finnigans
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Why is Tony “people skill” Abbott popping up everywhere. Is he positioning himself for Leadership as Bully is universally disliked in the Libs.

  16. 866
    gusface
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    abbott is a media tart

  17. 867
    marky marky
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    So Abbott, the worst treasurer we have ever Peter Costello.
    Not far behind Paul Keating.

  18. 868
    marky marky
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Abbott is wrong Costello was a nothing as a Treasurer.

  19. 869
    Ron
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    don’t worry Abbott has not got th numbers , he’s just a front man Thanks ESJ that abolishing 100% however is easier said than done not just politicaly but administratively for any party

  20. 870
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    Centre

    The universe can self-create based on some theories, but not others. Dunno which one is right. LHC might tell us, esp the Higgs boson.

    Ron

    It’s pretty complicated. According to the Copenhagen theory, everything only exists as probability waves until it is measured.

    ESJ

    We’re coming back from that little blip in the polls. Obama was ahead nationally again today. That “put lipstick on a pig and it’s still a pig” is gold. The MSM and McCain keep ranting about it but it leaves a powerful image. Bush and Cheney are pigs, McCain and Palin are pigs with lipstick.

  21. 871
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    Sales gave Abbot far too easy a go on Lateline. Let him carry on with such rubbish.

  22. 872
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    That “put lipstick on a pig and it’s still a pig” is gold. The MSM and McCain keep ranting about it but it leaves a powerful image.

    I agree. Their bleating has been quite funny to see.

  23. 873
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    No ShowsOn you seem to be one of these people who like argument for the sake of it.

    Um, no. You were the one who implied that human dignity should be measured in dollars. I thought used sarcasm to illustrate why this proposition is ludicrous.

    Of course, I realised long ago that it’s too much for me to expect you to back up your arguments with logical reasoning or evidence. You’re the make a wild statement and run style of debater.

  24. 874
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Abbott on Lateline “if Howard was PM the pensioners would get an increase”

    AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

    night guys

  25. 875
    Edward StJohn
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    No Dr ShowsON your wrestling with your own straw man.

  26. 876
    marky marky
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Dario- the media gave Howard ten years of an easy time. The media these days are pathetic, only O’Brien and Oakes ask hard questions and seem to research their information the rest i would not waste my time with their celebrity lame research and weak questions.
    They focus on the trivia and not the hard stuff, much like many people on this site do at times.

  27. 877
    marky marky
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    If Mcain wins the election, the world will have a prolonged depression and not just a recession. Americans vote for the republicans again they get what they deserve. I think eventually though she will stumble, off the cuff instead of written speeches i think we will see a someone who really is very ignorant of the world and society and general.

  28. 878
    Ron
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Diogenes “That “put lipstick on a pig and it’s still a pig” is gold.”

    thats because you ar a male , wait till th sexism charges come and see if oiliness has courage to keep saying it …like everything oiliness does when faced with pressure oiliness will back off

  29. 879
    vera
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Dario 872
    Oilbama is losing it, trying to talk Miss Sarah’s talk and failing badly lol
    Well imitation is the highest form of flattery I guess.
    better watch out or he’ll be out mooooose huntin’ next!

  30. 880
    vera
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    hello Ron

  31. 881
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    ron & vera, get a room

  32. 882
    Ron
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    you cann’t handle facts Dario , your guy is a phoney

  33. 883
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    you cann’t handle facts Dario

    lol, I haven’t actually seen you present any

    your guy is a phoney

    He’s not my guy… I just don’t want flip-flopping grandpa & the mad gun toter to win

  34. 884
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:38 pm | Permalink

    No Dr ShowsON your wrestling with your own straw man.

    My wrestling, with my straw man? I own wrestling?

    More ring and run rubbish.

    Come on, reply to this post by explaining to me why human dignity should be measured in dollars.

  35. 885
    Ron
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    Well thats extraordinary , you’ve religously defended him at every call

    “I haven’t actually seen you present any” You just hav not bothered to read th Rezko link , when you’re finished with that I can go into Abortion , th bomb man , illegal wiretaps , threatened to nuke pakistan AND Iraq pre emptively etc hav got plenty but all eyes ar closed to any info I’ve said neither ar any good & I hav info on both

  36. 886
    Ron
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Hello Vera & Gus

    I’ve just replayed LL , and it does not show that SMH flash news bit of Costello to resign , did they say he WOULD resign & if so approx when , or that it was there speculation

  37. 887
    Ron
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    on internet

  38. 888
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    Well thats extraordinary , you’ve religously defended him at every call

    You’ll be shocked to find that I was backing Hillary in the primaries (not that I was tuned in all that much), but now that Obama’s the pick I’d rather him than grandpa

    You just hav not bothered to read th Rezko link

    I’ve read a few things on the Rezko stuff but nothing that seems all that convincing against Obama. The only bit that was close to dodgy might have been the land he bought off him, but it was at the going price so I’m not sure how you can pin it on him other than his mate has been indicted, not him.

  39. 889
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    Obama back in front 48-47 in the latest Rasmussen poll

  40. 890
    Thomas Paine
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    Given the funny business with the poll sampling he may not have been behind – hard to tell.

  41. 891
    Ron
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    I’ll supply th link tomorrow ..WITHOUT any comment from me , and you form your own value judgement

    Look if th opponent was a “Bush” , I’d suport ANY Democrat against him Problem is McCain is th least Republican Republican in US history & over 20 years has negotiated with Democrats in th house to put through legisaltion Maverick’s got weakness , so has oiliness in actual NON “left” policys apart from associations, so i see them as a devils choice & so abstain , others choose reluctantly to go with th remaining Democrat

    Had candidate been any of my first 3 choices (in order) all of whom reely DO hav “left” policys :Gore then Hillary then Edwards , i’d hav been delighted as reel left policys were on way

    But both Partys in USA ar different to ‘oz’ , where we hav two very clear choices , left (Labor) and right (Liberal) In US th 2 Partys ar both “right” with Democrats th moderate right Party (and within that Democrat right Party ar 2 left wings , one bullshit polital correctness & no practicle policys and one holding alot of but not all traditional Labor views with Gore & Hillary part of that …Obama is not , he’s a Liberal version of Ian Mcphee ie wet Liberal not consevative Liberal but with some sugar coating

  42. 892
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    Oh come on Ron, grandpa’s no maverick. He’s a flip-flopper who changes his spots depending on which way the wind blows. God only knows what he’d be like in the Whitehouse.

  43. 893
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    NBC poll also has him up by 1. In any case, it’s the state vote that counts…

  44. 894
    Ron
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    Tomorrow I’ll list 15 MAJOR policy areas , none of them would be supported by th Labor Party , so lets keep to actual facts Yes McCain is a flip flopper , so is oiliness can give exampes of him too Do not ask our farmers or exporters who they’d refer as you’ll be disapointed

  45. 895
    Fulvio Sammut
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    If Obama is his oiliness, why is McCain not the cold pizza? (Italians would appreciate the joke).

  46. 896
    Ron
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    I’ll go along with that no problem , oiliness and cold pizza

  47. 897
    Ron
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    suppose Fulvio you’re aware oiliness comes from Chicago , alphonso capone , so Italian flavour all around

  48. 898
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    Do not ask our farmers or exporters who they’d refer as you’ll be disapointed

    I doubt anyone could predict what grandpa would do, so it’s a moot point really

  49. 899
    James J
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    wow, that didn’t last long.

    New NSW Police Minister Matt Brown sacked

    NSW Police Minister Matt Brown was sacked three days into the job last night after admitting a wild party in parliament house where he danced semi-naked and simulated a sex act on a female MP.

    Premier Nathan Rees gave Mr Brown no option but to offer his resignation, just hours after the Labor leader learnt of the allegations and of the Kiama MP's admission to at least part of them.

    http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24327251-5001021,00.html

  50. 900
    Ron
    Posted Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    You avoided th point We KNOW for a fact Obama’s protectionism WILL hurt our farmers & exporters and you condone that…unlike you our farmers & exporters won’t

    And would ‘oz’ elect a person with oilness’s community centre experience as our PM , no , then get reel , no one has any idea what he’ll in White House if faced with a crisis

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