This fortnight’s Newspoll shows Labor’s two-party lead unchanged on 56-44. Kevin Rudd’s approval rating is down three points to 62 per cent, while Brendan Nelson’s is up two to 16 per cent.
The weekly Essential Research survey has Labor retaining its 59-41 lead. Peter Costello is rated best person to lead the Liberals by 26 per cent against 13 per cent for Malcolm Turnbull, 8 per cent for Julie Bishop and 7 per cent for Brendan Nelson. However, Kevin Rudd is preferred to Peter Costello head-to-head 53 per cent to 27 per cent.
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No 41
Progressive, Porsche drivers aren’t the ones affected by the the LCT increase.
The FCAI has stated that the increase will affect cars in the 57k-70k range, hardly the domain of a porsche driver, you pathetic class bigot.
Generic Person, I have decided you are a fool. Communists!! Cretin!
Howard and Costello out- taxed Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, and Keating governments hands down but thanks for the crumbs after taking our bread, I’m sure you can understand one of the reasons why the Liberals are now gracing the opposition benches,GP.
No 45
Which will cause premium hikes for all private health members and increased costs on the public health system which will necessitate higher income taxes. Stop repeating Rudd’s spin and think about it.
Geez, the intellectual rigour around here is of infantile proportions.
Folks, let’s just hope for GPs state of mind and physical well being that the Libs get up in WA. There’s no knowing what harm he may inflict upon himself if they don’t.
Which reminds me, has anyone heard anything from ESJ today?
No 52
Steve, where did you get that from? The ALP handbook of lies? It’s a dishonest argument. Every government will have higher tax revenue than the last – it is a mathematical certainty as a result of higher growth and inflation.
I’ve been insulted by Generic Person, which makes my night complete
WOOHOO!
No 55
Suicide and self-harm is for cowards and dolts. I am neither.
Glad to know it GP (58). We were getting worried about you.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Generic Person ,or should that read Geriatric Person is none other that Peter Costello, filling in time whilst he cant be bothered rocking up to parliament, he is moon lighting on pollbludger, trying to remind us all what the Liberals stood/stand for, god know, regular punters have no idea these days.
Oops should taht have been taubular for GP’s benefit.
GP “Geez, the intellectual rigour around here is of infantile proportions’
Then tell me what was th highest outlays to GDP % attained in any of Costello’s 12 Budgets
Then also tell me over those 12 Budgets collectively with tax scales , which income group received th highest tax reduction in both % and dollar terms
When answering , don’t throw figures out of your head , Federal Trasury figures ar indesputable , so time for you to put up intellectualy
“Geez, the intellectual rigour around here is of infantile proportions.” And you being here does nothing to change that.
Brenda’s big rise in the PPM wouldn’t have anything to do with him dragging out those poor dog food eating pensioners again, this week would it? demanding Kev give them a pay rise NOW so that when they get one in the next budget he can claim credit?
Seems last boost the Fibs got was when they ran with the lie that mean Mr Rudd was taking away the Pensioner and Carer’s bonus.
Lordy I hope we don’t get another run of protesting pensioner strip shows!
and notice you avoided my #44 post demonstrating Liberals policy bankruptcy
“Every government will have higher tax revenue than the last – it is a mathematical certainty as a result of higher growth and inflation.”
56 GP, So the Liberals are being obstructionist in the senate because..?
No 61
Prove me wrong Gary, don’t think of amateurish retorts.
Vera: even better – Nelson decides to live like a pensioner for a week, and starts eating dog food.
Well GP, proving that the intellectual rigour around here is of infantile proportions is an opinion and is mighty difficult to prove.
No 65
What’s your point steve? Labor wants to supplement its tax revenue (which automatically rises with growth & inflation) with additional taxation. He has no mandate to increase taxes.
69 But Howard and Costello did have that mandate?
Progressive, he can take a bag of Chum for a crispy snack on the next road trip he does with a truckie!
Be careful, Generic Person. You have just strayed into territory you should have stayed well away from. If you actually, really, think suicide is for “cowards and dolts”, I will humiliate you into the next century.
Generic Person, it is your sort of arrogance that sent the Libs into exile last year, still nice to have a liberal supporter on the site. they are an endangered species these days
I’m sure we could list things Howard did that didn’t have a mandate. Did he have a mandate for example to forgo some promises after an election, you know, the non – core promises.
No 61
Wealthy people contribute the highest proportion of tax revenue and thus any tax cut will certainly benefit them the most by virtue of the magnitude of tax they already pay.
It’s all well and good to say “tax cuts for the rich” bla bla bla, but the fact is that in 1996, the highest tax rate was applied at just $50,001. Such repressive tax regimes punish people for working harder and thus it doesn’t matter what the looney left say, the reality is that the effective marginal tax rates which apply today are far more equitable.
No 72
Humiliate away.
Hi Vera
back to your earlier point , polls now r as irrelevant as ones last week when gilligans were swooning An analogy … Howard as an example had say 20 vunerable seats & could afford to lose 10 & still win Maverick has about 12 vunerable seats & needs to win 10 and 2 he can afford to lose but those ar specific 2 States only with small E/V’s Not a good hand
As to posters Vera , some Gilligans float in here …but note some with “other names” , some never went to Gilligans regularly if at all but ar Gilligans but warmth of affections to me ar consistent but then I’m pretty affiable sort of
Oiliness has $350 million in ‘lobbyists donations’ to mavericks 85 million so advertising money difference is persuasive , but then we hav Kevin07 at 56 to 44 !
No 70
If you’re referring to the GST, yes they did have a mandate. Howard went to the 1998 election on that platform and won.
…”the highest tax rate was applied at just $50,001. Such repressive tax regimes punish people for working harder..”
GP, this is exactly the anomaly that the Medicare surcharge Bill is to iron out and the Liberals are opposing it in the senate.
Ron @ 61, that was a great effort, but “intellectually” has two “L” s before the Y.
And Generic Person, I’ve just realized who you were in another lifetime. Welcome back Candles from the Oz Politics days. How’s the family restaurant business going?
No 79
It’s not an anomaly. The idea is to promote as many people as possible to procure private health insurance, which is perfectly reasonable. Labor’s crusade against the Medicare surcharge will effectively cause hundreds of thousands to flee to the public system which is bursting at the seams thanks to continued mismanagement and underinvestment by the State Governments.
Generic Person
I asked you policy questons in #44 and Federal Treasury outlays to GDP in #61 to demonstate Howards historicaly high taxing based on on offical Budget figures
Now you can not disengenuously claim ‘hurt’ from me personally as an avoidance to my questons without appearing to evade my qustons
81 And not helped by a billion dollars ripped off the health funding to the states by Howard and Costello.
O.k. Generic Person, for starters,
substantiate your proposition that suicide is for “cowards and dolts”.
Do you know what substantion means? Have you done any philosophy at all? What’s your definition of a coward, a dolt?
No 82
Ron if you expect me to engage with your argument, cite the sources and I’ll be happy to oblige. I’m not going to reread the budgets from the last 12 years to satisfy your whims.
The fact is that the claim by Labor that Howard had the highest taxing government in History is a dishonest election slogan that should be ignored.
If you dispute that the rich should not receive tax cuts – then fine, that is your prerogative. But note that you’d effectively be supporting a situation whereby the highest marginal tax rate applied at $50,000. Congratulations, you are killing your own.
Ron I’ve never been to Gilligans, tend to stick close to home, but i’m glad they’re treating you well over there, lol
Yes Oils will most likely win, and the yanks are welcome to him, as you say we have Kev who just keeps on keeping on! yipee!
No 84
No, I don’t know what “substantion” means, because it is not a word.
No 80
Not the slightest idea what you’re talking about mate.
GP, you forget to tell us why road funding was 50/50 with the states at the start of the Hoard/Costello juggernaut and wound up with the states paying 60% for every 40% of Commonwealth investment.
Oh Yes, very cute, Geriatric Person.
Enough already.
No 90
I am not elderly Harry.
Vera , never been there , they come here in disguise th butterflies
GP It might be best for your own peace of mind if you could just move beyond denial and accept that your pinup boy lost the last election – big time. Now Kevin Rudd is calling the shots and according to the latest Newspoll that’s just fine with 56% of the electorate. It’s called democracy, a concept which after twelve years of Howard, you may not be very familiar with.
Generic Person
plus 29% figure IS in Budget papers , read them , research , don’t talk of top of head with ‘rubbery’ figuresHe achieved Dr Cairns ratings
As for tax scales Howard is first PM to redistribute income TO th rich A pregressive tax scale was in place in 1996 which even Malcom Fraser in 7 years largely left th relativities untouched for differing income groups whay Howard did was to CHANGE th relativites between tax cscales giving th HIGHEST % reductions on those specific tax scales to rich Its caled wealth re distribution to rich , which is consistent with Howard’s consevative Liberal tax agenda , of which GST was worst redisrtribtion to rich in both scales & in goods & services purchased in lieu of former sales tax scales
Again all graphs ar clearly shown in Budget Papers , look don’t pontifficate
Sorry William. Didn’t see your message before I sent #94.
No 95
Sorry Ron, again I can’t specifically address what you’re talking about if I’m not given a reference from which to look. I am not necessarily saying your figures are wrong, but I cannot truthfully engage if I don’t know what you’re look at.
That aside, you’re forgetting that Malcolm Fraser had disastrous problems with tax evasion. The GST – on which Howard won an election – is a much more efficient tax because it taxes consumption that grows annually with the economy. It is distributed to the states who generally spend it on the provision of public services.
Again, you might say that it is a redistribution to the rich, but the fact is that it increases the incentives for people to work harder. If you think 50,000 per annum should be taxed at 46.5%, then be my guest, but that is outrageously unfair and it totally contradicts your “working class” platform.
No 94
Lefties keep bringing that up, but I have perfectly accepted that the greatest prime minister in history is out of office. I am glad that Australians are servicing his pension.
I think we need some light humour
check out the cartoon
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/pet-food-diet-a-shaggy-dog-story/2008/09/08/1220857456741.html
thats simply a function of Howard picking up bracket creep , rather than indexing th scales , effect of which is as wages increase a larger surplus drops into a higher tax bracket for which Howard ‘kindly” returned PART ONLY as aleged tax cuts Your incentive to work argument is a liberal philosophy flawed wheen this is accounted fo As said figure is 29 to GDP , easy to check , it was a record matching Cairns
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