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	<title>Comments on: Photo finishes (lower house) &#8211; take two</title>
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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-13/#comment-188505</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eratosthanes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-13/#comment-188504</link>
		<dc:creator>Eratosthanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe at 591

You&#039;re ignoring that if the Nats go with the Libs they will still need 2 independents to have a majority. It then becomes the independents and not the Nats that call the shots. They would hand over the balance of power to someone else.

If Labor get to 28 seats (Albany, Forrestfield and Kwinana) then there is only really one functional arrangement and that is Labor and the Nats (+/- John Bowler). This is not because I think this is a good arrangement - it&#039;s just that anything the Libs could pull together from a 28-24-4-3 parliament would be much, much worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe at 591</p>
<p>You&#8217;re ignoring that if the Nats go with the Libs they will still need 2 independents to have a majority. It then becomes the independents and not the Nats that call the shots. They would hand over the balance of power to someone else.</p>
<p>If Labor get to 28 seats (Albany, Forrestfield and Kwinana) then there is only really one functional arrangement and that is Labor and the Nats (+/- John Bowler). This is not because I think this is a good arrangement &#8211; it&#8217;s just that anything the Libs could pull together from a 28-24-4-3 parliament would be much, much worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Calabrese</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-12/#comment-188503</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Calabrese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;as i mentioned in a previous post somewhere (seems like years ago now, rofl) the nats have *already* done the deal with the libs… time we accepted that reality :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you&#039;ll all be in for a big surprise :-)

Brendan isn&#039;t you&#039;re average &quot;bend over a think of England&quot; type of Nat who normally deals with The Libs :-). Also, Brendan has CONSTANTLY said he doesn&#039;t want to be part of any Party Room, and has already rejected BArnett&#039;s Deputy Premier role.

A Lib/Nats &quot;Coalition&quot; will NOT be happening this time around :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>as i mentioned in a previous post somewhere (seems like years ago now, rofl) the nats have *already* done the deal with the libs… time we accepted that reality <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll all be in for a big surprise <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Brendan isn&#8217;t you&#8217;re average &#8220;bend over a think of England&#8221; type of Nat who normally deals with The Libs <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Also, Brendan has CONSTANTLY said he doesn&#8217;t want to be part of any Party Room, and has already rejected BArnett&#8217;s Deputy Premier role.</p>
<p>A Lib/Nats &#8220;Coalition&#8221; will NOT be happening this time around <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Edward StJohn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-12/#comment-188500</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward StJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;ll be too busy organising the royal commissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;ll be too busy organising the royal commissions.</p>
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		<title>By: shtuwang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-12/#comment-188496</link>
		<dc:creator>shtuwang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ wonder if he&#039;ll get new teeth ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ wonder if he&#8217;ll get new teeth ?</p>
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		<title>By: spudster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-12/#comment-188494</link>
		<dc:creator>spudster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed prepare for Fat Premier Barnett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed prepare for Fat Premier Barnett</p>
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		<title>By: 10pse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-12/#comment-188493</link>
		<dc:creator>10pse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10pse... and neither should they - they didnt even win the 2pp vote</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10pse&#8230; and neither should they &#8211; they didnt even win the 2pp vote</p>
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		<title>By: shtuwang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-12/#comment-188492</link>
		<dc:creator>shtuwang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as i mentioned in a previous post somewhere (seems like years ago now, rofl) the nats have *already* done the deal with the libs... time we accepted that reality :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as i mentioned in a previous post somewhere (seems like years ago now, rofl) the nats have *already* done the deal with the libs&#8230; time we accepted that reality <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: spudster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-12/#comment-188488</link>
		<dc:creator>spudster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without Riverton the ALP bubble is burst. The thing is I understand the speaker has the casting vote therefore even 30 -29 will do it for the Libs/Nats</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without Riverton the ALP bubble is burst. The thing is I understand the speaker has the casting vote therefore even 30 -29 will do it for the Libs/Nats</p>
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		<title>By: 10pse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/08/photo-finishes-lower-house-take-two/comment-page-12/#comment-188486</link>
		<dc:creator>10pse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the way the seats are trending, the likely result is that Labor will fall short, leaving the Libs to make a govt with the nats and the lib indies.

You guys thinking the Nats will side with Labor are seriously smoking dope... there is not a snowballs chance in hell.

Leaving aside history (and the fact that there national colleagues all over the country would tear strips of them etc etc) there is simply no logic to siding with Labor. They would piss off their constituents, piss off their long term ally, and for what.... anything Labor can put on the table the Libs can too... so there is just no reason they would do it.

sorry to burst the bubble for Labor supporters, but if Labor does not get enough seats to govern on its own they wont be governing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the way the seats are trending, the likely result is that Labor will fall short, leaving the Libs to make a govt with the nats and the lib indies.</p>
<p>You guys thinking the Nats will side with Labor are seriously smoking dope&#8230; there is not a snowballs chance in hell.</p>
<p>Leaving aside history (and the fact that there national colleagues all over the country would tear strips of them etc etc) there is simply no logic to siding with Labor. They would piss off their constituents, piss off their long term ally, and for what&#8230;. anything Labor can put on the table the Libs can too&#8230; so there is just no reason they would do it.</p>
<p>sorry to burst the bubble for Labor supporters, but if Labor does not get enough seats to govern on its own they wont be governing</p>
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