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• Exchange from 6PR election night broadcast between former Liberal leader Matt Birney, broadcaster Howard Sattler and former Labor MP Graham Edwards. Much more remains to be said on The West Australian’s extraordinary coverage of this campaign, but Birney hits on the main themes.
MB: The West Australian newspaper, the journalists down there have been having running fights and personality clashes with Alan Carpenter and his senior ministers including Jim McGinty who once banned them. And I’ll tell you what, they have taken it upon themselves to punish those ministers for those personality clashes, and some of the articles have appeared day after day after day on The West Australian newspaper I think have just damaged the hell out of the Labor Party, and I might say as a Liberal, I’m prepared to say, some of them very unfairly.
HS: And yet today the paper said … today editorial in the paper said vote Labor!
MB: No it didn’t at all, that was Paul Armstrong trying to cover his backside in case the board tapped him on the shoulder and say, what do you think you’re doing.
HS: I know what you mean, but 95 per cent of the editorial bagged the Carpenter government and the last 5 per cent said vote for him (laughs) …
MB: Can I just respond to that? For those people who read the editorial, they’d realise that the editorial was absolutely scathing of the Labor Party …
HS: It was.
MB: … and then in the very last line said, but it’s probably a safe vote to vote Labor. Do you know what that was? That was Paul Armstrong, the editor of The West Australian, covering his backside in case he got a phone call from Peter Mansell, the chairman of the board, saying “I think you guys have allowed your personality clashes with these ministers to play out in the pages of our newspaper” …
During the campaign in particular there were a number of articles that were completely beaten up. For instance, the headline saying Michelle Roberts has dared the Premier to sack her. Well, she never did any such thing. The Premier flies to Albany, as you do when you’re a leader, to announce a renewble energy policy, and The West focus in on how much fuel he used in the aeroplane. You know, The West said “oh, the Labor Party aren’t in fact the green party because they’re bringing on 1100MW of coal and gas-fired power”. Well, if they didn’t do that the state would be on its knees. I could go on and on …
GE: Certainly the campaign between The West and the Carpenter government was a very intriguing one. It was there and it was real and I think Matt’s hit the nail on the head.
MB: It was juvenile, wasn’t it? … I don’t think that The West have a left-wing bias, I think that their journalists get into a fight with a politician, they then go back to their office and they say, “right, I’ll stitch that bloke up”, and then they find the worst headline and the worst story they can and they beat the hell out of it, and they then stick it into the paper for the next day and they say “there you go, cop that one, you want to be …”.
HS: So it’s all about megalomania.
MB: Oh, it’s out of control, it’s a teenage rampage down there at The West Australian at the moment.
• Another highlight of the 6PR coverage, from Gary Gray:
Whoever was running that campaign panicked about the middle of last week, and they got away from the solid Vision, Stability, Leadership campaign they’d been running before in a fairly focused way and started pulling out scare ads of the uranium kinds and other things, and I think it was a huge error to do that.
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I don’t believe for a second the Nats will keep Labor in office. Unless Labor can get to 28 and can rely on Adams and Bowler, we’re out.
337 primary votes added in Albany.
ALP 133 (39.5%) 39.7
LIB 129 (38.3%) 32.4
NAT 31 (9.2%) 13.2
GRN 22 (6.5%) 7.4
CDP 16 (4.7%) 5.0
FFP 6 (1.8%) 2.3
adam
ye of little faith
145 – I pronounce it ‘I can’t believe the libs found someone to run who’s even more of a f*(king twat than Tony MacRae’
ABC website has changed its Kwinana prediction to ALP retain.
According to the ABC site, Sue Walker is still in the hunt in Nedlands – 0.3% vs Libs. They just updated that, and Wagin for some reason.
391 votes added in Forrestfield
ALP 150 (38.4%) 40.2
LIB 183 (46.8%) 40.9
GRN 35 (8.9%) 12.1
FFP 18 (4.6%) 3.5
CDP 5 (1.3%) 3.3
As Ben Chifley didn’t quite say “Faith is all very well but give me the numbers any day.”
Actually I think Nahan is pronounced: “Right Wing Lunatic”
127 votes added in Collie-Preston: ALP 45, LIB 60, GRN 13, FFP 8, CDP 1.
132 – Agree. Roger Cook was a left endorsed candidate, who has been an activist in the party for many many years. He followed factional and party processes to fairly win pre-selection, unlike Carpenter’s candidates and waiver was required.
I think Nahan seems like an interesting bloke, id rather have a right wing lunatic than a ‘corrupt’ politician.
So far Williams analysis of the postals/prepolls is holding true, except in Albany.
should say… NO waiver was required for Roger Cook
What just happened to the ABC counts? They just went backwards – back to only 68.5% – and much in doubt.
ABC news: Barnett offers Grylls deputy premiership. Royalties for regions “on the table”.
Forgive my ignorance – who’s Nahan?
Is this just a typo for Nathan that got run with?
Grylls has already ruled out a Deputy Premiership – he doesn’t want to be in a joint party room situation.
Mike Nahan = Liberal candidate for Riverton.
Read and learn
http://www.ipa.org.au/people/mike-nahan
Thank ye kindly
I don’t think they went backwards. The few I checked had the latest WAEC figures. What they have done is increased the tolerance for doubtful seats. Now there are 9. It also changes the state of the parties. Six of the doubtful are ALP seats, one Lib and three Ind. The ALP is leading in 4 one of which they are only 6 votes in front.
My comment was in answer to Nick 163
nahan is far from a right wing loony. Look at his CV. Very impressive, the guy is a very very intelligent guy, who both sides rate very highly.
The problem is he is the worlds worst marginal seat candidate, and recorded roughly 6% less of a swing compared to seats right next to him.
Gus face,
If the National wants to join ALP
If they choose the ALP, the ALP to govern no matter what, already has the number, the Nat gets what they want if they announce early. They have the advantage of getting in early and taking out the independants from the equations, if they wait they might get left out in the cold ie 28ALP + 2 Ind.
So if the Nat wants to go with ALP they strike now
If the Nationals wants to join Lib
If they move early, it eliminate any chance of joining the ALP. However the Lib will need them to form a coalition no matter what, as they cannot get to 28 seats. So if they wants to join the Lib, they can wait as long as they can before deciding where they leap
It would look really bad if they leap now and Labor retained government.
So if the Nat wants to go with the Lib, they what
So what did the Nat say
What the Nat has said is that, we will wait until the result is known from the election and choose a side
I think that clears it up
Grylls couldn’t possible accept a ministry after all he’s said. Evan by Australian standards, even by National Party standards, EVEN BY WA STANDARDS, that would be a bit much.
cheers Lenwx @ 170, yeah yeah regarding doubtful seats…but beforehand ABC had 71% or so of the votes counted (I think!), but now back to 68.5%…whereas WAEC now up to 73.5%…
Given Grylls’ insistence that he won’t join a Coalition, and won’t have a joint party room, surely the most likely scenario (assuming the ALP does not get to 28 seats + 2 independents) is a Liberal minority government with the Nationals committing to support them in matters of supply and confidence, but with all other bills requiring negotiation.
172 – I think describing Bill Johnston as a ‘leftie’ qualifies him to be a lunatic at least
No standards. No scruples. Just politicians.
So where’s his cv average joe? The link above & the info that he has done nothing but work for the IPA (a right wing Union basically) don’t provide any evidence that he’s not a triple gilt-edge f*&king twat and a right wing loony. Also look at his serial-killer glasses. Definitely not a great marginal seat candidate.
“Mike Nahan
Senior Fellow
Dr Mike Nahan was Executive Director from 1995 to 2005. Before that he was Director of the Institute’s State Policy Unit.”
Average Joe # 172, I agree. Nahan came across as a very intelligent bloke on ABC on Saturday. Would be a very capable MP.
Uh that was a reply to average joe 172, and yeh otis anybody who thinks Johnston is a dangerous leftie must be a dangerous righty.
Re the ABC site: It says less votes counted and the time last changed as last night, but in fact the latest votes are shown at least for the ones I checked.
Nahan conducted himself well last night on the ABC, the only thing was his accent.
Grylls won’t commit to Alliance with Libs.
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=96752
What’s his accent? Enoch Powell? ex-Rhodesian SAS? Braunau-am-Inn? I know you have some strange types over there.
183 the only thing Alexander Downer ever said that I agreed with was ‘It’s un-Australian to make fun of people’s accents’ (in response to being teased about his own) but since you’ve started, Glen, yeah Nahan comes across like some kind of triple gilt plated f*&king right wing loony twat with serial-killer glasses and a fascist mo and a weird drawly celtic accent.
Maybe he’s perfect for Riverton.
Adam # 185 , mixed American accent of some sort.
Some kind of Orkney Islands thing sounds like to me Adam.
“Honest” and “Frank” are, in respect of party to party discussions, in pollie and diplomatic speak the same as the Chinese curse “may you live in interesting times”.
Lenwx, time changed is actually 1 min ago (was 10 mins ago), you’re right about current votes…just that total votes counted percentage through me…
required # 185, that’s one reason I personally never considered going into politics in Australia. My accent (also mixed North American) from when I was a kid would insight too much prejudice from raving anit-Americans! Funny, Australians do seem to follow many American fads and fashions. And Anti-Americanism being one of them!
(threw)
Can we forget about Nahan until we hear something on Riverton!
Adams doesn’t look like a lock to me…
“Also at Parliament House this morning was newly elected member for Kwinana, Carol Adams.
Ms Adams said while counting was still underway, she had received a call from the Premier about her intentions.
She joked that she had opened her diary and told him she would “have to get back to him”.”
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=96752
Nick: I meant the time on the LHS
Nahan’s accent isn’t the only problem, he is also extremely unpersonable and condescending in person. So it wasn’t just his accent working against him. Plus he hadn’t done a single mail out until the election was called.
Anyway yeah, he could get done in Riverton.
I’m looking at “Last updated Mon Sep 8 01:24PM”
glen 194, she didnt win it, alp did
http://www.abc.net.au/elections/wa/2008/guide/kwin.htm
Appears to be some misunderstanding about the ‘In doubt’ column on the ABC site. The in doubt seats are just placed under their incumbent party, its not an indication of who is currently ahead or likely to win. (So don’t add the ‘Total won’ to the ‘In doubt’ for each party)
abc site doesn’t deal well with independents Sean
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