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Liberal leadership: round two

Brendan Nelson has thrown the Liberal leadership open to a party room vote tomorrow morning. A source quoted by the ABC calls the move a “suicide mission” and “predicts Malcolm Turnbull has the numbers to take the leadership”. Nelson defeated Turnbull in the first round five days after the November 24 election by 45 votes to 42.

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  1. 401
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    Another monarchist bites the dust.

    Hear! Hear!

    Has anyone heard about the Deputy position? For that matter, Turnbull will have to move quicksmart to get front bench positions filled before QT at 2pm

    The Government should censure the Opposition Leader on the grounds that he is jet lagged and sun burnt.

  2. 402
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    So – it’s the “Ken and Barbie” team for the Libs…

  3. 403
    Grant
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    #370

    “That’s right, let’s just open up our borders for the whole world …”

    Just like your beloved McCain and his amnesty program.

    “We will decide who comes into this country and the circumstances in which they come!”

    You’ll also indefinitely lock up children behind razor wire in the middle of the desert. You conservatives are really contemptible.

  4. 404
    evan14
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Yes, will anyone be vaguely interested in Smirky’s Press Club address this afternoon?

  5. 405
    Max
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    For those who are interested, ABC is streaming live at the moment

  6. 406
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Yes, will anyone be vaguely interested in Smirky’s Press Club address this afternoon?

    Some crickets will be attending.

  7. 407
    steve
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    “Yes, will anyone be vaguely interested in Smirky’s Press Club address this afternoon?”

    Milne might get an exclusive scoop there this afternoon.

  8. 408
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Told youse so.

    Ya gotta hand it to Nelson, though: he had the guts to put his cojones on the line, while Costello, smirking in the background was still asking people, “What are these cojone things I’m not supposed to have?”

    The Academy Award for “Smarmiest Politician In A Performance As A Back-Stabber” goes to Nick “As you are aware, we were always behind Brendan” Minchin.

    Look out Brendan, they’re right behind you.

    Turnbull gets the guernsey without too much public blood on his hands (it wasn’t his idea to call the spill) and Costello, forgotten, sails off to the islands to do a llittle moral and spinal regeneration courtesy of World Vision with Brother Tim.

  9. 409
    juliem
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    ShowsOn,

    “The Government should censure the Opposition Leader on the grounds that he is jet lagged and sun burnt.”

    ROTFL …….. thanks for that :)

  10. 410
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Hey Max, do you have a link? I can’t find it. Thanks.

  11. 411
    Grant
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    So it’s Turnbull 45 to Nelson 41 this time, but was Nelson to 45 to Turnbull 42 previously.

    Did someone miss the vote? And who changed their mind?

  12. 412
    Sertse
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    scorpio: http://abc.net.au/streaming/abc-video2.asx

    But the line died, it seems

  13. 413
    steve
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Scorpio, press conference begins shortly.

    abc.net.au/news

  14. 414
    Ken Craig
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    OK – Game on! So who is going to be dumped from the front bench and who might come on?

  15. 415
    ruawake
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Press conference delayed until 10:30

  16. 416
    ruawake
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Shadow Treasurer? Any prognostications?

  17. 417
    steve
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    One thing is for sure ruawake, none of the Queeensland Pineapple Party members are fit to be Shadow Treasurer. Better look to the other states.

  18. 418
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Unfortunate for Nelso, but this was inevitable.

  19. 419
    steve
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    About 10 months too late GP.

  20. 420
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Well, it’s interesting that Turnbull has been the least vocal about the leadership woes of the party; the most disciplined of them all.

  21. 421
    Diogenes
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Here’s the blow-by-blow. Sadly, Chris Pyne seems to be especially happy. He might even get a shadow ministry which has an equivalent Govenment Ministry instead of “Justice” which left him without an opponent.

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24353382-5013871,00.html

  22. 422
    Sertse
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    stream is up. same link as prev posted

  23. 423
    dave
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Gee that ex Costello staffer on sky is full of it.

    Pure slime. Reminds me why I have such a low opinion of the fibs.

  24. 424
    Diogenes
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Perhaps Cossie for treasury? I know Turnbull and Cossie hate each other but IMHO Turnbull as leader with Cossie as shadow Treasurer is their best bet at re-election. Lots of voters still think highly of Cossie as an economic manager,

    Nationals senator Barnaby Joyce said Peter Costello would have been an extremely good choice for the Liberals, considering Australia was facing tough economic circumstances.

    “We have to make sure the best team is on the frontbench,” he told reporters.

  25. 425
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Turnbull is performing admirably at the conference.

  26. 426
    ruawake
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Turnbull is worse than Brenda, his press conference is woefull.

    Brenda off to the back bence.

  27. 427
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Turnbull is simply stunning. He has my full support.

  28. 428
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    At least the Liberal Party has some good orators. Rudd would be reading off briefings.

  29. 429
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    SNIP: Poor quality comment deleted – The Management.

  30. 430
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Ditto for you BB.

  31. 431
    ruawake
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    GP

    Turnbull just let Labor of the hook, Bishop has been banging on about consumer confidence, Talcum admits there has been a GLOBAL fall in confidence.

    End of that line of attack. :)

  32. 432
    dave
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    allbull might appeal to the party faithful, but whether the
    broader community will take to him remains to be seen.

    No way will brenda let it go. He may get behind allbull, but it
    will only be to stab him in the back.

    Abbott still sees himself as a chance as well.

  33. 433
    Diogenes
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Will the leadership change be in time to be covered in the next Newspoll? If it is, I’m betting on a swing to the Libs.

  34. 434
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    That was Dennis Shanahan clapping at the end.

  35. 435
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Turnbull unfortunately waffles, says too much about nothing and, comes over as pompous. He usually trys to make it seem he knows a lot about something when it is apparent he doesn’t and thus starts talking in pointless circles. He will need to tighten up his style. Though he will at least not be back flipping every two minutes (maybe).

    OK first question to Turnbull. ‘Can you unequivocally state that Workchoices type IR in any form has been totally discarded by your party.’

  36. 436
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    At least the Liberal Party has some good orators. Rudd would be reading off briefings.

    Yeah, like John Howard.

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

  37. 437
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    No 430

    Turnbull was pretty succinct in that press conference. The only person that can be accused of indecisive waffling is Mr Krudd himself.

  38. 438
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Intriguing – Alex Hawke (conservative firebrand MP for Mitchell) switched from Nelson to Turnbull in the vote. So did Abbott.

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24353392-421,00.html

    I smell a shadow ministerial deal in the works…

  39. 439
    Muskiemp
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    the Libs are believing their own rhetoric re a 1 term ALP government, they just can’t believe the people voted them out because of their flawed policies, and bad economic management.

  40. 440
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    No 431

    The 1995 (IIRC) censure motion against Keating was one of the finest parliamentary performances I have ever had the pleasure of viewing. Howard was stunning.

  41. 441
    steve
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Turnbull claiming he doesn’t come from a background of privilege was a bit over the top. Which slum did he actually grow up in?

  42. 442
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    All new leaders give good performances at their first press conference – it’s the testosterone talking. But it’s a long race to November 2010. Testosterone doesn’t do much for stamina.

  43. 443
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    No 433

    They were not voted out based on economic management Muskiemp.

    Indeed, Rudd is swimming in so much money thanks to the Liberal National Coalition.

  44. 444
    Darn
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Brendan Nelson chooses the back bench. Could we be looking at another by-election soon?

  45. 445
    steve
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    “Howard was stunning.”

    GP, I have always been stunned by the propensity of Howard to mislead the nation myself.

  46. 446
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    No 435

    The point is that he isn’t some silver-spoon toff that you lefties like to think that he is. His success is self-made. But I guess communists don’t like individual success.

  47. 447
    juliem
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    I just called the QT ticket number and have put my name on the list for this afternoon as well ;-) … so I will be there today and Thursday too :) :) :) …….

  48. 448
    Muskiemp
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    # 430 Thomas Paine,
    Why continue to ask questions re IR. Remember the GST was pronounced dead and never ever, back in 1995 by Howard himself.
    That is what the ALP must continue to remind the Australian public that we can never ever believe the Coalition.

  49. 449
    Muskiemp
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    # 437
    10 Interest rises in a row.

  50. 450
    Generic Person
    Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    SNIP: Abusive comment deleted – The Management.

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