Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth

Turnbull 45, Nelson 41

As most of you would be aware by now, Malcolm Turnbull has won the Liberal leadership after defeating Brendan Nelson 45 votes to 41. Nelson won the post-election vote 45 votes to 42: not sure where the missing vote went (UPDATE: Kevin Andrews was overseas and didn’t vote – hat-tip to Dovif in comments).

Also:

• The latest weekly Essential Research survey has Labor’s lead back at 58-42 after a fortnight at 59-41. Also included are questions on approval of Kevin Rudd, the future of the Coalition and federalism.

Peter Brent asks what became of the government’s green paper on disclosure, funding and expenditure issues, which was due in July.

• The Australian Electoral Commission has published comments on objections to the redistribution of Western Australian electorates.

Bryan’s back.

793 Comments

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  1. 651
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    No 650

    Which is why you encourage to pay for their own health. :)

  2. 652
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    While I like The Hollowmen, i think Yes Minister is far better. Instead of having the civil servants look like idiots it made them smart and the politicians idiotically stupid.

    No political show can come close to the genius of Yes Minister/Prime Minister.

  3. 653
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    amen to that Glen.

  4. 654
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    +1

  5. 655
    steve
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    The last Commission of Inquiry into Public Hospitals in Queensland covers many of the problems and offers some solutions.

    http://www.qphci.qld.gov.au/final_report/Chapter-06.pdf

  6. 656
    steve
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    This is the latest performance indicators from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare June 2008

    http://www.aihw.gov.au/indicators/performance_indicators_200806_draft.pdf

  7. 657
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    (Apologies for the brief interruption: The ugly comment staircasing/indenting in MSIE is gone now. Back to your regularly scheduled deprogramming…)

  8. 658
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Jeff

  9. 659
    scorpio
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    Could someone please explain for me the statements made by a number of people that GP’s avatar is the “union jack”?

    On my desktop, it comes up as the GOP logo.

    Is there some reason why it would come up differently on different computers?

  10. 660
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    No 659

    Press CTRL + F5 to clear your browser cache.

  11. 661
    scorpio
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:49 pm | Permalink

    Marvelous. Wow. Thanks for that. One can learn something new every day.

  12. 662
    scorpio
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    GP, I liked your old one better.

  13. 663
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    I was wondering that as well scorpio.

    The Republican gravatar was better GP. You have suddenly aged about 40 years in my eyes!

  14. 664
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    No 660

    By popular demand, GOP will return momentarily.

  15. 665
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    much better GP:
    although you realise my gravatar is trying to take you down :-)

  16. 666
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    I can’t identify your gravatar grog. :S

  17. 667
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    How telling are oyr Gravitars!! Brittish flags & Menzies – Oh the humanity!!! :)

  18. 668
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    Grog’s gravatar is awesome. :-)

  19. 669
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    hoffmann and redford from “all the president’s men”.

  20. 670
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    Pretty Cool!

  21. 671
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Cheers Jeff – that pic on your blog is freaking me out!

  22. 672
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    Yeah…where did that come from??

  23. 673
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    Time for acuppa

  24. 674
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Re:the pic on Jeff’s website, Aussieguru went “Yeah…where did that come from??”

    Betelgeuse 7?

  25. 675
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    Aussieguru01 is Alexander the Great if I’m not mistaken.

  26. 676
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    I’m surprised no one’s grabbed the obvious gravatar.

  27. 677
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    GB… obvious? Gough? PJK?

  28. 678
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Kev.

  29. 679
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Who Gary, Scarlet Johansonn? :mrgreen:

    It’s amazing how many times you can fit her name into a post and still make it relevant.

    Apologies Billbowe – I’ll cease my silliness!

  30. 680
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    No 679

    +1 for Scarlett. Yum. :D

  31. 681
    dyno
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Howard, perhaps?

  32. 682
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    I assumed he meant Hitler.

  33. 683
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Diogenes. Yes thats right. Alexander it is. Strong, all conquering & votes Labor!! Aussie Greek too!

  34. 684
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    680 – come to think of it, so do I.

  35. 685
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    No 683

    Shame, I thought you were referring to Mr Downer. :)

  36. 686
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    GB, the hammer & sickle might be appropriate for you. :)

    jokes, jokes.

  37. 687
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    Diogenes – yours has a touch of Led Zepp?

  38. 688
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    Grog, Aussieguru01: That’s Matt Zimmerman, CTO of Ubuntu (kickarse version of Linux). He has hair now… slightly less scary. :-)

  39. 689
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    No 688

    come on Jeff, Vista is superior. ;-)

  40. 690
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    Thanks GP – I looked but nah.

  41. 691
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    Ubuntu rocks

  42. 692
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    I think the story is that Led Zep has a touch of Diogenes.

  43. 693
    MayoFeral
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    Diogenes@617 -

    People now die after long chronic diseases now, which take up an enormous amount of admissions etc. They used to die fairly quick deaths.

    Yes, and that’s the rub. I wonder how many people would continue to demand the full on treatment if they realised what is often the longer term consequence – a long, slow, miserable death.

    My, by then nearly 100 y.o., Dad was offered a pacemaker when it was noticed his heart sometimes stopped beating for up to 4 seconds or so, and grabbed it with both hands. Two years later had a major stroke, which is not unusual because blood tends to clot on the pacemaker leads and warfarin doesn’t always solve the problem. Took him 18 months of much pain and suffering to regain something close to a quality life only to be hit by another stroke massive enough to render him mostly unresponsive but not enough to kill him. So with no hope of recovery he was given what is called ‘comfort care’ which is a nice way of saying: slowly starved and finally dehydrated to death. Took a month. Not pretty. Without the pacemaker he might well have lived just as long, but without the trauma, and probably would have died peacefully in his sleep.

    Sometimes death is not the worst thing that can happen to you!

  44. 694
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    LOL

  45. 695
    scorpio
    Posted Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Just did a quick Google of Diogenes and according to Wikepedia, he was quite an interesting character.

  46. 696
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Can you link it Scorpio?

  47. 697
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    The LCT is back on.
    http://www.theage.com.au/national/deal-gives-luxury-car-tax-a-reprieve-in-senate-20080917-4iop.html

  48. 698
    Generic Person
    Posted Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    No 696

    The amendments transmute a dog’s breakfast into a dog’s brothel, making the stupid tax even more difficult to administer.

    If the Greens were serious, they’d argue for the tax’s abolition in favour of one that taxes vehicles according to emissions and fuel economy standards.

  49. 699
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    Who said Labor would be controlled by the unions?
    http://www.theage.com.au/national/union-fury-at-gillards-ir-changes-20080917-4iod.html

  50. 700
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    The amendments transmute a dog’s breakfast into a dog’s brothel, making the stupid tax even more difficult to administer.

    Kinda like the GST after the Democrats got to it GP?

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