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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/18/us-election-minus-48-days/comment-page-12/#comment-195554</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama just gave his own speech to the CGI and mentioned 4 of the 5 proposals McCain did in his speech to the CGI (which are already agreed on by Congress I think). Can&#039;t see how McCain profits out of this now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama just gave his own speech to the CGI and mentioned 4 of the 5 proposals McCain did in his speech to the CGI (which are already agreed on by Congress I think). Can&#8217;t see how McCain profits out of this now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dyno
&quot;One of the things that I have trouble understanding about this election, specifically the opinion polling, is how to reconcile it to the kind of turnouts the two parties had in the primaries.&quot;

I actualy hav wondered not just that but an even more deep seated problem with th polling since March for 4 months Hillary was easily more electable than Obama on all polls vs mcCain...yet over those 4 months Democrat regiisrations rose dramaticaly over Republican ones BUT whilst Hillary continued consisteently to be shown on polls to far more electable than Obama vs McCain neither of Hillary or Obama seemed to increase there actual margin over McCain

Hav always suspected therefore Polls (even those measuring likely voters) ar still  understating likely voters...and specificaly Democrat voters more , if that is case then Obama&#039;s actual lead is greater</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dyno<br />
&#8220;One of the things that I have trouble understanding about this election, specifically the opinion polling, is how to reconcile it to the kind of turnouts the two parties had in the primaries.&#8221;</p>
<p>I actualy hav wondered not just that but an even more deep seated problem with th polling since March for 4 months Hillary was easily more electable than Obama on all polls vs mcCain&#8230;yet over those 4 months Democrat regiisrations rose dramaticaly over Republican ones BUT whilst Hillary continued consisteently to be shown on polls to far more electable than Obama vs McCain neither of Hillary or Obama seemed to increase there actual margin over McCain</p>
<p>Hav always suspected therefore Polls (even those measuring likely voters) ar still  understating likely voters&#8230;and specificaly Democrat voters more , if that is case then Obama&#8217;s actual lead is greater</p>
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		<title>By: Darn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/18/us-election-minus-48-days/comment-page-12/#comment-195547</link>
		<dc:creator>Darn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - My reference to 565 should have been Dyno, not Dario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; My reference to 565 should have been Dyno, not Dario.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(Govt taking something like equity)&quot;

problem would be Fed Govt would own a share of alot of Wall Steet monies and tax payers then face continuing risks ...without reely knowing what they ar doing or what greater exposire is incurred

Think better to swap doubtful debts for liquidity , with companys taking a hit in some losses so business can actualy re commence as both liquidity &amp; confidence is becoming critical (but with continuing oversights &amp; criteria of whats taken over)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(Govt taking something like equity)&#8221;</p>
<p>problem would be Fed Govt would own a share of alot of Wall Steet monies and tax payers then face continuing risks &#8230;without reely knowing what they ar doing or what greater exposire is incurred</p>
<p>Think better to swap doubtful debts for liquidity , with companys taking a hit in some losses so business can actualy re commence as both liquidity &amp; confidence is becoming critical (but with continuing oversights &amp; criteria of whats taken over)</p>
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		<title>By: Darn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/18/us-election-minus-48-days/comment-page-12/#comment-195540</link>
		<dc:creator>Darn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dario (565)

I have felt all along that when it came to the crunch the American people would balk at electing a black man. But this crisis is probably just the bit of luck Obama  needs to overcome that and just get over the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dario (565)</p>
<p>I have felt all along that when it came to the crunch the American people would balk at electing a black man. But this crisis is probably just the bit of luck Obama  needs to overcome that and just get over the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Paine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/18/us-election-minus-48-days/comment-page-12/#comment-195538</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blunders that led to the banking crisis
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926754.200-the-blunders-that-led-to-financial-catastrophe.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&amp;nsref=top1_head_The%20blunders%20that%20led%20to%20the%20banking%20crisis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blunders that led to the banking crisis<br />
<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926754.200-the-blunders-that-led-to-financial-catastrophe.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&amp;nsref=top1_head_The%20blunders%20that%20led%20to%20the%20banking%20crisis" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926754.200-the-blunders-that-led-to-financial-catastrophe.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&amp;nsref=top1_head_The%20blunders%20that%20led%20to%20the%20banking%20crisis</a></p>
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		<title>By: dyno</title>
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		<dc:creator>dyno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron,

Some kind of bailout is needed, that&#039;s a complete no-brainer, unless the US Treasury and Govt want to go down in history like their predecessors in 1930, men who fiddled while Rome burned.

It&#039;s not all that easy to see how appropriate accountability will be enforced, and also what happens if the Govt spends $700b on what are in effect junk bonds, and then there&#039;s a whole lot more junk bonds still to come?

The AIG solution (Govt taking something like equity) is probably better, as it ensures that the institution (in its current form) dies, but the counterparties still get paid.  Shareholders get punished and senior execs (presumably) get kicked out.  Problem is there might not be enough money to do that to all the institutions that would need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,</p>
<p>Some kind of bailout is needed, that&#8217;s a complete no-brainer, unless the US Treasury and Govt want to go down in history like their predecessors in 1930, men who fiddled while Rome burned.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not all that easy to see how appropriate accountability will be enforced, and also what happens if the Govt spends $700b on what are in effect junk bonds, and then there&#8217;s a whole lot more junk bonds still to come?</p>
<p>The AIG solution (Govt taking something like equity) is probably better, as it ensures that the institution (in its current form) dies, but the counterparties still get paid.  Shareholders get punished and senior execs (presumably) get kicked out.  Problem is there might not be enough money to do that to all the institutions that would need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dario</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/18/us-election-minus-48-days/comment-page-12/#comment-195536</link>
		<dc:creator>Dario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[you wonder how McCain can still be in it]

Will if he&#039;s down by 2 in NC I&#039;m not sure he is in it any more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you wonder how McCain can still be in it</p></blockquote>
<p>Will if he&#8217;s down by 2 in NC I&#8217;m not sure he is in it any more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dyno</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/18/us-election-minus-48-days/comment-page-12/#comment-195534</link>
		<dc:creator>dyno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dario,

Tend to agree there.

One of the things that I have trouble understanding about this election, specifically the opinion polling, is how to reconcile it to the kind of turnouts the two parties had in the primaries.  Admittedly a good proportion of the Republican primaries occurred after the real contest was over, but even so, their turnouts were so low versus the Dems, you wonder how McCain can still be in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dario,</p>
<p>Tend to agree there.</p>
<p>One of the things that I have trouble understanding about this election, specifically the opinion polling, is how to reconcile it to the kind of turnouts the two parties had in the primaries.  Admittedly a good proportion of the Republican primaries occurred after the real contest was over, but even so, their turnouts were so low versus the Dems, you wonder how McCain can still be in it.</p>
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