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	<title>Comments on: Newspoll: 51-49 to Labor in Queensland</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Nash</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-196834</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about a lot of worry over nothing on this tread the LNP is a structurally sound new political force and i&#039;m sure it will deregister the former Queensland Liberal Party quickly,  Preselect the best conservative minded candidates for the next election, pay off the former Queensland Liberal Party debts and sell the former Queensland Liberal Party headquarters in trinity lane, South Brisbane.  The Southern Liberals will recognise the new party and if it doesn&#039;t it won&#039;t matter Queenslanders make their own decisions and the LNP is our new conservative force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a lot of worry over nothing on this tread the LNP is a structurally sound new political force and i&#8217;m sure it will deregister the former Queensland Liberal Party quickly,  Preselect the best conservative minded candidates for the next election, pay off the former Queensland Liberal Party debts and sell the former Queensland Liberal Party headquarters in trinity lane, South Brisbane.  The Southern Liberals will recognise the new party and if it doesn&#8217;t it won&#8217;t matter Queenslanders make their own decisions and the LNP is our new conservative force.</p>
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		<title>By: pacerman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-196658</link>
		<dc:creator>pacerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ruawake: &quot;No they don’t.&quot;

Hawker-Britton would be amazed. Their capital was built on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ruawake: &#8220;No they don’t.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hawker-Britton would be amazed. Their capital was built on it.</p>
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		<title>By: ruawake</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-195787</link>
		<dc:creator>ruawake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Consultants do organise the running of preselections. Labor do it...]

No they don&#039;t. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Consultants do organise the running of preselections. Labor do it...</p></blockquote>
<p>No they don&#8217;t. <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pacerman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-195742</link>
		<dc:creator>pacerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mal&#039;s dead folks- Mal&#039;sd dead. AS is the QLD National and Liberal parties. Additionally, consultants do actually “facilitate” the preselections - not selecting candidates. Consultants do organise the running of preselections. Labor do it, Dems DID it, Libs do it, LNP will be doing it. Bernard’s political judgement is as sharp as a lemon.  That’s just one of the reasons I cancelled my subscription to Crikey. As for spin doctors- QLD Labor Government has over 300 and counting. They get paid better than QLD Health workers too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mal&#8217;s dead folks- Mal&#8217;sd dead. AS is the QLD National and Liberal parties. Additionally, consultants do actually “facilitate” the preselections &#8211; not selecting candidates. Consultants do organise the running of preselections. Labor do it, Dems DID it, Libs do it, LNP will be doing it. Bernard’s political judgement is as sharp as a lemon.  That’s just one of the reasons I cancelled my subscription to Crikey. As for spin doctors- QLD Labor Government has over 300 and counting. They get paid better than QLD Health workers too.</p>
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		<title>By: albertross</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-195584</link>
		<dc:creator>albertross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Mal&#039;s departure would have been influenced in any way by a request from Alan to be introduced to Sue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Mal&#8217;s departure would have been influenced in any way by a request from Alan to be introduced to Sue?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-195562</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now we have a bunfight over who has the right to derigister the Liberal Party.

[Mr Brough said the move by the LNP to deregister the state Liberal branch was not legally possible until the federal party recognised the LNP.

&quot;There is no federal approval and they have no authority to deregister anything,&quot; Mr Brough told The Australian.

But LNP vice-president Gary Spence said he had a letter of authority from Mr Loughnane to proceed with the deregistration of the Queensland Liberal Party.

Mr Spence said he had also been given the go-ahead by Mr Stockdale.

&quot;Everything I&#039;m doing is being done with the full knowledge and approval of Alan Stockdale,&quot; Mr Spence said.

But Mr Stockdale said he had not had any communication with Mr Spence or the LNP about deregistering the Queensland Liberal branch. &quot;I had no knowledge of the deregistration move,&quot; Mr Stockdale said.

Mr Loughnane said he had not given a letter of approval for the deregistration move to Mr Spence or anyone else in the LNP. &quot;I had no prior knowledge of any state deregistration application,&quot; he said.]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24403309-5006786,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now we have a bunfight over who has the right to derigister the Liberal Party.</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr Brough said the move by the LNP to deregister the state Liberal branch was not legally possible until the federal party recognised the LNP.</p>
<p>"There is no federal approval and they have no authority to deregister anything," Mr Brough told The Australian.</p>
<p>But LNP vice-president Gary Spence said he had a letter of authority from Mr Loughnane to proceed with the deregistration of the Queensland Liberal Party.</p>
<p>Mr Spence said he had also been given the go-ahead by Mr Stockdale.</p>
<p>"Everything I'm doing is being done with the full knowledge and approval of Alan Stockdale," Mr Spence said.</p>
<p>But Mr Stockdale said he had not had any communication with Mr Spence or the LNP about deregistering the Queensland Liberal branch. "I had no knowledge of the deregistration move," Mr Stockdale said.</p>
<p>Mr Loughnane said he had not given a letter of approval for the deregistration move to Mr Spence or anyone else in the LNP. "I had no prior knowledge of any state deregistration application," he said.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24403309-5006786,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24403309-5006786,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-195413</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert the Liberals let their candidates overspend their budgets in the last campaign on the basis of a Galaxy Poll the weekend before the 2006 election was called that had similar figures to this Newspoll and wasted $1 Million dollars on the Gold Coast Council elections without even winning a ward let alone the mayoralty. Great economic managers indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert the Liberals let their candidates overspend their budgets in the last campaign on the basis of a Galaxy Poll the weekend before the 2006 election was called that had similar figures to this Newspoll and wasted $1 Million dollars on the Gold Coast Council elections without even winning a ward let alone the mayoralty. Great economic managers indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: albertross</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-195412</link>
		<dc:creator>albertross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queensland Liberal Party debts? Perhaps they will deal with them them the National Party way...

Socialise them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queensland Liberal Party debts? Perhaps they will deal with them them the National Party way&#8230;</p>
<p>Socialise them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ruawake</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-195403</link>
		<dc:creator>ruawake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former Howard government minister Mal Brough has quit the presidency of the Queensland Liberal Party.

Mr Brough was elected to the position earlier this year, before the party merged with the Nationals to form the Liberal National Party (LNP).

This afternoon, Mr Brough said he had enough of bickering over who will pay the Queensland Liberal Party&#039;s outstanding debts.

&quot;Well, I&#039;ve just had a gutful, quite frankly. I think this whole thing is a bit of a shambles,&quot; he told 4BC radio.

&quot;You try and do the right thing and, quite frankly, at this point it&#039;s all over the shop and it&#039;s no wonder voters get so disenchanted with the non-Labor side of politics.&quot;

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/brough-quits-liberal-presidency/2008/09/25/1222217423498.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former Howard government minister Mal Brough has quit the presidency of the Queensland Liberal Party.</p>
<p>Mr Brough was elected to the position earlier this year, before the party merged with the Nationals to form the Liberal National Party (LNP).</p>
<p>This afternoon, Mr Brough said he had enough of bickering over who will pay the Queensland Liberal Party&#8217;s outstanding debts.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I&#8217;ve just had a gutful, quite frankly. I think this whole thing is a bit of a shambles,&#8221; he told 4BC radio.</p>
<p>&#8220;You try and do the right thing and, quite frankly, at this point it&#8217;s all over the shop and it&#8217;s no wonder voters get so disenchanted with the non-Labor side of politics.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/brough-quits-liberal-presidency/2008/09/25/1222217423498.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/brough-quits-liberal-presidency/2008/09/25/1222217423498.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: albertross</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/09/24/newspoll-51-49-to-labor-in-queensland/comment-page-2/#comment-195401</link>
		<dc:creator>albertross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dovif

Just picking up on one point you made about following HTV cards. People are creatures of habit or perhaps they just like the power our great democracy gives them and want to indicated preferences.

At the 2007 state election in the district of Blacktown the GRNs did not allocate preferences. This decision was, incidentally, made by Blacktown Greens members in a secret ballot conducted at an ordinary meeting. 

I handed out HTVs on election day. More than a few electors approached me to ensure that the suggested vote was valid. When they were counted it emerged that only 58% exhausted, and of the rest 20% went to CDP, 19% to Lib and 60% to ALP.

Go figure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dovif</p>
<p>Just picking up on one point you made about following HTV cards. People are creatures of habit or perhaps they just like the power our great democracy gives them and want to indicated preferences.</p>
<p>At the 2007 state election in the district of Blacktown the GRNs did not allocate preferences. This decision was, incidentally, made by Blacktown Greens members in a secret ballot conducted at an ordinary meeting. </p>
<p>I handed out HTVs on election day. More than a few electors approached me to ensure that the suggested vote was valid. When they were counted it emerged that only 58% exhausted, and of the rest 20% went to CDP, 19% to Lib and 60% to ALP.</p>
<p>Go figure&#8230;</p>
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