Comments on: Patterson: Labor 7, Liberal 6, Greens 4 in ACT

By: Oz

Oz — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:25:17 +0000

Clearly they’ve been rife throughout this campaign, my point is that it’s unlikely to translate into any tangible positive electoral result.

By: mogfeatures

mogfeatures — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:00:41 +0000

And ‘negative attacks’ haven’t been central to the demonising of Stanhope? (So much so that one of the minor, so-called ‘independent’ parties appears to be running almost solely on an anti Stanhope ticket, rather than anti Labor.)

By: Oz

Oz — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:29:18 +0000

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/rivals-gang-up-on-greens-as-poll-push-boils-over/1331045.aspx

I thought it had been emphatically proven that negative attacks don’t actually work.

By: Rebecca

Rebecca — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:37:53 +0000

mogfeatures: I’m not surprised in the least. ACT Liberal leaders who campaign on traditional Liberal Party ideology become long-forgotten opposition leaders. It goes down like an utter ton of bricks here.

Seselja is smart enough to realise that by staying the absolute hell away from anything that could be portrayed as seriously conservative, he won’t alienate a giant swathe of the population who are fed up with Stanhope and want somewhere else to go. History makes this bloody obvious – the only Liberal Chief Minister who ever won an election was Kate Carnell, who was popular, charismatic, and on the definite social liberal end of the Libs. Trevor Kaine and Gary Humphries were both more conservative, and both got their arses handed to them when they actually had to face an election.

By: mogfeatures

mogfeatures — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:52:46 +0000

170 – Perhaps then they might be willing to form a coalition with the medieval wing, sorry, branch, of the Greens.

By: ltep

ltep — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:46:24 +0000

I remember seeing some vague comments about wanting to return Canberra to it’s former ‘nature’ on some such thing, which was hinting at a more conservative, backwards looking territory. I think that could possibly be viewed as a traditional campaign point.

Oh… and there’s law and order of course.

By: Adam in Canberra

Adam in Canberra — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:43:06 +0000

Obviously in these circumstances they should run on a platform of outright Bolshevism.

By: mogfeatures

mogfeatures — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:35:15 +0000

Has anyone noticed anything the ACT Liberals are proposing which owes anything to traditional Liberal Party ideology? Or does it appear they’re just promising whatever it takes to have a turn at the wheel? In which case, given the predisposition of the ACT electorate to the left, the ascendancy of Rudd and Bolshie Turnbull, and the collapse of the glorious market, whither the Canberra Liberals? What do they stand for? Anyone care to enlighten us or speculate where individual Canberra Liberals are coming from or just where they might sit on the political spectrum? They can’t all be opportunists, surely.

By: Michael Cusack

Michael Cusack — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:26:12 +0000

The Hettinger hoo haa is mostly a symptom that the ALP see most of their problem coming from the Green side rather than from the conservative side. He wants to have a bit of both ways.

By: Oz

Oz — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:25:24 +0000

Yeah, I think that too about RiotACT.

Bird of Paradise, if you remember a few years back there was another case up in QLD where almost the exact same thing happened… a certain someone whose name doesn’t deserve to be mentioned on this hallowed website was kicked out of the Liberal Party for peddling views they didn’t agree with, created their own party and ran as a candidate but because the ballot papers had already been printed they were listed as a Liberal candidate.

Of course it would be quite a bit harder in the ACT with the party tickets and PR etc.