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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/17/nsw-by-elections-minus-one-day/comment-page-2/#comment-204584</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m closing this thread: please take any discussion to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;live count thread&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m closing this thread: please take any discussion to the <a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/#comments" rel="nofollow">live count thread</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/17/nsw-by-elections-minus-one-day/comment-page-2/#comment-204212</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll find out in a couple of minutes, Geoff. 

Weird, I was just at your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll find out in a couple of minutes, Geoff. </p>
<p>Weird, I was just at your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: lefty e</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/17/nsw-by-elections-minus-one-day/comment-page-2/#comment-204211</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generic Person: yes, the most bullshit policy I&#039;ve ever seen from the ALP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generic Person: yes, the most bullshit policy I&#8217;ve ever seen from the ALP.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Robinson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/17/nsw-by-elections-minus-one-day/comment-page-2/#comment-204210</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Cabramatta. When I lived there back long ago some Serbian community leaders were resentful of the attention that the Indochinese received from government and from John Newman. No idea if this was reciprocated however. Nick Lalich is Serbian. Also how accurate would Lakemba and Cabramatta polls be given the high non-English speaking population?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Cabramatta. When I lived there back long ago some Serbian community leaders were resentful of the attention that the Indochinese received from government and from John Newman. No idea if this was reciprocated however. Nick Lalich is Serbian. Also how accurate would Lakemba and Cabramatta polls be given the high non-English speaking population?</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/17/nsw-by-elections-minus-one-day/comment-page-2/#comment-204205</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a pathetic policy, yet 100% off-topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a pathetic policy, yet 100% off-topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Generic Person</title>
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		<dc:creator>Generic Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other news, does anyone here not think this is just ridiculous policy?

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1399635276

[Australians will be unable to opt-out of the government&#039;s pending Internet content filtering scheme, and will instead be placed on a watered-down blacklist, experts say.

Under the government&#039;s $125.8 million Plan for Cyber-Safety, users can switch between two blacklists which block content inappropriate for children, and a separate list which blocks illegal material.

Pundits say consumers have been lulled into believing the opt-out proviso would remove content filtering altogether.

The government will iron-out policy and implementation of the Internet content filtering software following an upcoming trial of the technology, according to the Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy.

A spokesman for Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said the filters will be mandatory for all Australians.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other news, does anyone here not think this is just ridiculous policy?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1399635276" rel="nofollow">http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1399635276</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Australians will be unable to opt-out of the government's pending Internet content filtering scheme, and will instead be placed on a watered-down blacklist, experts say.</p>
<p>Under the government's $125.8 million Plan for Cyber-Safety, users can switch between two blacklists which block content inappropriate for children, and a separate list which blocks illegal material.</p>
<p>Pundits say consumers have been lulled into believing the opt-out proviso would remove content filtering altogether.</p>
<p>The government will iron-out policy and implementation of the Internet content filtering software following an upcoming trial of the technology, according to the Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy.</p>
<p>A spokesman for Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said the filters will be mandatory for all Australians.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: ajd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/17/nsw-by-elections-minus-one-day/comment-page-1/#comment-204201</link>
		<dc:creator>ajd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the next 33 minutes could decide all these elections. Can&#039;t wait for the first numbers to come through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the next 33 minutes could decide all these elections. Can&#8217;t wait for the first numbers to come through.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/17/nsw-by-elections-minus-one-day/comment-page-1/#comment-204194</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I think so, ajd, because I think the Nats will be significantly ahead on the primary vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I think so, ajd, because I think the Nats will be significantly ahead on the primary vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam in Canberra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam in Canberra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the OED to some micky mouse online dictionary, thanks. But even by that definition you used it wrongly. You wrote &quot;If the Liberal Party had performed as egregiously as the NSW ALP...&quot; One can&#039;t &quot;perform egregiously,&quot; only &quot;egregiously badly&quot; or whatever. That definition just makes it a fancy word for &quot;very,&quot; and obviously you can&#039;t say &quot;perform very.&quot; But its *correct* definition is &quot;to an outstanding degree,&quot; so to &quot;perform egregiously&quot; would mean &quot;perform extremely well.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the OED to some micky mouse online dictionary, thanks. But even by that definition you used it wrongly. You wrote &#8220;If the Liberal Party had performed as egregiously as the NSW ALP&#8230;&#8221; One can&#8217;t &#8220;perform egregiously,&#8221; only &#8220;egregiously badly&#8221; or whatever. That definition just makes it a fancy word for &#8220;very,&#8221; and obviously you can&#8217;t say &#8220;perform very.&#8221; But its *correct* definition is &#8220;to an outstanding degree,&#8221; so to &#8220;perform egregiously&#8221; would mean &#8220;perform extremely well.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ajd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/17/nsw-by-elections-minus-one-day/comment-page-1/#comment-204192</link>
		<dc:creator>ajd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antony/Oz: I suppose for tonight then, assuming a roughly equal primary vote for Williams and Besseling as the polls have suggested, it could come down to how many Greens/other Independent supporters preference. Anyone putting Besseling or Williams first may as well exhaust their ballot, since they&#039;re going to be the last two. If forced to preference, those supporting the major independents (everyone other than Rogers, Price, Sharpham) would most likely preference Besseling. Could be disastrous for Besseling if independent voters fail to preference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antony/Oz: I suppose for tonight then, assuming a roughly equal primary vote for Williams and Besseling as the polls have suggested, it could come down to how many Greens/other Independent supporters preference. Anyone putting Besseling or Williams first may as well exhaust their ballot, since they&#8217;re going to be the last two. If forced to preference, those supporting the major independents (everyone other than Rogers, Price, Sharpham) would most likely preference Besseling. Could be disastrous for Besseling if independent voters fail to preference.</p>
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