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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-5/#comment-205821</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Australia Votes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-5/#comment-205812</link>
		<dc:creator>Australia Votes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just waiting for the final results so I can get the exact percentages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just waiting for the final results so I can get the exact percentages.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-5/#comment-205806</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you waiting for something in particular? Isn&#039;t it pretty much cut and dried?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you waiting for something in particular? Isn&#8217;t it pretty much cut and dried?</p>
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		<title>By: Australia Votes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-5/#comment-205804</link>
		<dc:creator>Australia Votes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I found put they continually update the results not enter them all at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I found put they continually update the results not enter them all at once.</p>
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		<title>By: Australia Votes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-5/#comment-205779</link>
		<dc:creator>Australia Votes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NSWEC seems to have all the declaration votes for Lakemba added to the result but it&#039;s still only 80.3% of the total enrollment, this seems too low, even for a by-election. Do they wait until all the votes from a certain part of the declarations are counted before they add them to the results or do they continuously update it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NSWEC seems to have all the declaration votes for Lakemba added to the result but it&#8217;s still only 80.3% of the total enrollment, this seems too low, even for a by-election. Do they wait until all the votes from a certain part of the declarations are counted before they add them to the results or do they continuously update it?</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of paradox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-5/#comment-205295</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[ Dubbo was close both at the by-election to replace McCrane with Fardell and her re-election at the 2007 election. Labor preferences assisted her on both occasions and with Labor on the nose their preferences will be fewer and fewer come 2011. This should assist the Nationals in reclaiming Dubbo and Tamworth on simple mathematical dimensions. ]

This is wrong - Labor didn&#039;t run a candidate in the 2004 by-election. They got 11.1% in 2007... it&#039;s hard to see them going much backwards from that. In 2007, Fardell was 0.9% behind the Nats on primary vote, but won by 0.9% - the figures &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/elections/nsw/2007/results/dubb.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; would suggest about half the Labor voters preferenced the Nats, so they&#039;re neither helped not hindered by any reduction in Labor&#039;s vote. If the Nats want to win Dubbo, they&#039;ll have to do it themselves.

As for Torbay, he ain&#039;t going nowhere... he beat the Nats 72.7 to 17.7 on primary last time. Tamworth&#039;s more winnable for them, but if it&#039;s following Northern Tablelands (and New England federally), the Nats are gonna get squelched. Will be interesting to see which one happens. As for Port Macquarie, they&#039;ve blown their best chance to get that back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Dubbo was close both at the by-election to replace McCrane with Fardell and her re-election at the 2007 election. Labor preferences assisted her on both occasions and with Labor on the nose their preferences will be fewer and fewer come 2011. This should assist the Nationals in reclaiming Dubbo and Tamworth on simple mathematical dimensions. </p></blockquote>
<p>This is wrong &#8211; Labor didn&#8217;t run a candidate in the 2004 by-election. They got 11.1% in 2007&#8230; it&#8217;s hard to see them going much backwards from that. In 2007, Fardell was 0.9% behind the Nats on primary vote, but won by 0.9% &#8211; the figures <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/elections/nsw/2007/results/dubb.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a> would suggest about half the Labor voters preferenced the Nats, so they&#8217;re neither helped not hindered by any reduction in Labor&#8217;s vote. If the Nats want to win Dubbo, they&#8217;ll have to do it themselves.</p>
<p>As for Torbay, he ain&#8217;t going nowhere&#8230; he beat the Nats 72.7 to 17.7 on primary last time. Tamworth&#8217;s more winnable for them, but if it&#8217;s following Northern Tablelands (and New England federally), the Nats are gonna get squelched. Will be interesting to see which one happens. As for Port Macquarie, they&#8217;ve blown their best chance to get that back.</p>
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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-4/#comment-205259</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Generic Person</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-4/#comment-205258</link>
		<dc:creator>Generic Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No 198

Point fully taken, William.</description>
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<p>Point fully taken, William.</p>
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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-4/#comment-205254</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GP, please read and take note of the edit I have made to your previous comment. This is no laughing matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GP, please read and take note of the edit I have made to your previous comment. This is no laughing matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Generic Person</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/10/18/nsw-by-elections-live/comment-page-4/#comment-205252</link>
		<dc:creator>Generic Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No 171

Albertross, what a load of rubbish mate. 

Dai Le was raised in the area, married in the area and her family in the area. So she is not some candidate that has absolutely no links to the community unlike the former Member for Coogeematta, Reba Meagher, who was parachuted from the eastern suburbs to run for Cabramatta in 1994. Your absolute failure to recognise that fact highlights your appalling double standards. 

&lt;i&gt;SNIP: Defamatory comment deleted - The Management.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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<p>Albertross, what a load of rubbish mate. </p>
<p>Dai Le was raised in the area, married in the area and her family in the area. So she is not some candidate that has absolutely no links to the community unlike the former Member for Coogeematta, Reba Meagher, who was parachuted from the eastern suburbs to run for Cabramatta in 1994. Your absolute failure to recognise that fact highlights your appalling double standards. </p>
<p><i>SNIP: Defamatory comment deleted &#8211; The Management.</i></p>
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