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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Mail: Labor &#8220;holding firm&#8221; in SA marginals</title>
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	<description>Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth</description>
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		<title>By: ltep</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/02/sunday-mail-labor-holding-firm-in-sa-marginals/comment-page-2/#comment-213982</link>
		<dc:creator>ltep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appointment I should say</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appointment I should say</p>
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		<title>By: ltep</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/02/sunday-mail-labor-holding-firm-in-sa-marginals/comment-page-2/#comment-213981</link>
		<dc:creator>ltep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last Democrat to resign:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/07/2412844.htm

On the flip side it&#039;ll mean the first Democrat election in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Democrat to resign:<br />
<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/07/2412844.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/07/2412844.htm</a></p>
<p>On the flip side it&#8217;ll mean the first Democrat election in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: ltep</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/02/sunday-mail-labor-holding-firm-in-sa-marginals/comment-page-2/#comment-213188</link>
		<dc:creator>ltep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as you see my comments were really off-topic so you could imagine I don&#039;t particularly care about it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as you see my comments were really off-topic so you could imagine I don&#8217;t particularly care about it either.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/02/sunday-mail-labor-holding-firm-in-sa-marginals/comment-page-2/#comment-213186</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you two are the only ones who care about SA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you two are the only ones who care about SA.</p>
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		<title>By: ltep</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/02/sunday-mail-labor-holding-firm-in-sa-marginals/comment-page-2/#comment-213185</link>
		<dc:creator>ltep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were going to say democratic, that&#039;s neither here nor there.  People argue the electoral methods of the lower house are undemocratic (compulsory voting, compulsory assignment of preferences, disproportionate representation in comparison to vote received etc. etc. etc.)  It&#039;s all a matter of opinion.  What matters is that people are lawfully entitled to exercise power.

Fielding&#039;s exercise of power is no less democratic than any candidate who receives less than a quota and any senator from a major party that is elected on the resdistributed votes of excluded candidates. 

But yes... very off topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were going to say democratic, that&#8217;s neither here nor there.  People argue the electoral methods of the lower house are undemocratic (compulsory voting, compulsory assignment of preferences, disproportionate representation in comparison to vote received etc. etc. etc.)  It&#8217;s all a matter of opinion.  What matters is that people are lawfully entitled to exercise power.</p>
<p>Fielding&#8217;s exercise of power is no less democratic than any candidate who receives less than a quota and any senator from a major party that is elected on the resdistributed votes of excluded candidates. </p>
<p>But yes&#8230; very off topic.</p>
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		<title>By: bob1234</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/02/sunday-mail-labor-holding-firm-in-sa-marginals/comment-page-2/#comment-213152</link>
		<dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be lawful but doesn&#039;t make it... no, i&#039;m not going to continue to drag this thread off-topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be lawful but doesn&#8217;t make it&#8230; no, i&#8217;m not going to continue to drag this thread off-topic.</p>
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		<title>By: ltep</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/02/sunday-mail-labor-holding-firm-in-sa-marginals/comment-page-2/#comment-213146</link>
		<dc:creator>ltep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are elected in the same way as any other senator, by receiving a quota from votes distributed by a lawful system.  Fielding has as much of an entitlement to put his views and vote as he chooses as any other rightfully elected senator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are elected in the same way as any other senator, by receiving a quota from votes distributed by a lawful system.  Fielding has as much of an entitlement to put his views and vote as he chooses as any other rightfully elected senator.</p>
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		<title>By: bob1234</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/02/sunday-mail-labor-holding-firm-in-sa-marginals/comment-page-2/#comment-213135</link>
		<dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minus the official opposition, the remaining Senators form the majority needed to pass legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minus the official opposition, the remaining Senators form the majority needed to pass legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: ltep</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/02/sunday-mail-labor-holding-firm-in-sa-marginals/comment-page-2/#comment-213132</link>
		<dc:creator>ltep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it&#039;s not 1 senator blocking legislation.  It needs to be a majority (or equality) of the senators voting on any given question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s not 1 senator blocking legislation.  It needs to be a majority (or equality) of the senators voting on any given question.</p>
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		<title>By: bob1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably, but again I was talking in practical terms, from my own point of view.

Xenophon is actually pretty decent unlike Fielding. I hope he isn&#039;t re-elected come the next election. Honestly, one Senator blocking legislation, on less than 2% of the Victorian vote in 2004, how is that democracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably, but again I was talking in practical terms, from my own point of view.</p>
<p>Xenophon is actually pretty decent unlike Fielding. I hope he isn&#8217;t re-elected come the next election. Honestly, one Senator blocking legislation, on less than 2% of the Victorian vote in 2004, how is that democracy?</p>
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