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10.48pm. Oregon Senate race still close: Republican incumbent Gordon Smith leads Democrat Jeff Merkley 47.7 per cent to 46.7 per cent with 74 per cent of precincts reporting. Coleman now leads Franken by 676 votes (0.02 per cent) with 99.9 per cent reporting.

9.25pm. An extra 0.3 per cent of precincts in Minnesota have widened Coleman’s lead to 2591.

8.45pm. Norm Coleman back ahead of Franken in Minnesota – by 490 votes, with 98.7 per cent reporting.

7.54pm. Al Franken seizes a late lead for the Minnesota Senate (188,073 to 185,786) with 98 per cent reporting.

7.45pm. All precincts reporting from Missouri, and McCain leads 1,442,577 to 1,436,724. Possum writes in comments that there are not enough contested votes to cover the gap.

6.29pm. MSNBC calls Indiana for Obama. Only Missouri and North Carolina still outstanding.

6.26pm. Missouri has gone right back down to the wire with 0.7 per cent still to report: McCain 1,426,779, Obama 1,426,381.

6.06pm. With all precincts reporting, Obama leads in North Carolina by 12,160 votes out of over 4.2 million (0.2 per cent cent).

5.57pm. Earlier chat suggested Republican Senator Ted Stevens was dead meat in Alaska, but he leads 49.4-45.4 with 37 per cent reporting. Partial counts can be misleading though.

5.50pm. Back to lineball in Minnesota Senate. Analyst on Fox News says outstanding precincts are likely to favour Republican incumbent Norm Coleman over Al Franken.

5.16pm. McCain hanging on to his slender lead in Missouri, which is looming as my only wrong call.

5.11pm. McCain now ahead in Montana.

5.00pm. Al Franken continuing to fade in Minnesota Senate – probably gone now.

4.46pm. Obama’s lead in Montana rapidly evaporating as the count proceeds to 51 per cent.

4.36pm. Ohio still quite tight: Obama leads 50.0-48.4 with 72 per cent reporting.

4.31pm. Oregon Senate race has tightened up considerably: within 1 per cent now.

4.11pm. My reading of the Senate: Democrats to gain seven Senate seats – Colorado, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Virginia, Oregon, North Carolina and Alaska (no actual votes yet from the latter) – or eight if Al Franken wins Minnesota, where he trails by 0.8 per cent with 53 per cent counted.

4.09pm. Norm Coleman now leads Al Franken by 0.8 per cent for Minnesota Senate.

4.07pm. Obama now with a relatively handy 0.6 per cent lead in North Carolina.

3.55pm. Obama back in front in North Carolina, but not going to win Missouri. I’ve only just noticed he’s looking a surprise winner in Montana, although with only 24 per cent counted.

3.32pm. Correct me if I’m wrong here somebody, but the Democrats stand to gain seven Senate seats – Colorado, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Virginia, Oregon, North Carolina and Alaska – eight if Al Franken wins Minnesota.

3.17pm. McCain concedes defeat.

3.14pm. Close as close can be between Norm Coleman and Al Franken for Minnesota Senate.

3.10pm. Fox reports Roger Wicker holds Mississippi Senate seat for the Republicans, ending the chances of a Democrat supermajority.

2.59pm. CNN calls the election for Obama.

2.58pm. Obama takes the lead in Indiana.

2.54pm. McCain strengthening in North Carolina and Missouri.

2.51pm. Fox reports Virginia went 60-39 to McCain among white voters, but 92-8 among black voters.

2.42pm. McCain’s lead has vanished in Missouri: now 49.4-49.3.

2.41pm. Franken in fact leads Republican incumbent Norm Coleman 43-40.

2.40pm. Fox calls Virginia for Obama. Al Franken reportedly looking good for Minnesota Senate.

2.37pm. Obama leads in New Mexico 50.1-48.7 with less than half of dominant Bernalillo County reporting, where Obama is leading 57.3-41.5.

2.33pm. Crikey blog commenter Stuart: “Wilson and Franklin in North Carolina unreported. Wilson =44000 people total, 47% black. Franklin 2000 in total people 95% white. Looking good for O.”

2.32pm. McCain now narrowly ahead in North Carolina.

2.20pm. McCain leads by 12,839 in Indiana, but extrapolating unreported precincts from Lake County suggests Obama stands to gain over 22,000 votes.

2.18pm. Still tight in Florida, North Carolina and Virginia, but Obama has a handy lead in each case with most precincts reporting. North Carolina his weakest of the three.

2.16pm. Missouri bouncing around the place, but McCain’s lead currently at 2.6 per cent.

2.12pm. McCain’s lead in Missouri reflating.

2.04pm. McCain’s lead in Missouri is narrowing.

2.01pm. Obama narrowly ahead in Florida, North Carolina and Virginia (in ascending order of narrowness).

1.59pm. Fox calls Iowa for Obama.

1.58pm. Obama takes the lead in Virginia.

1.50pm. Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight calls the election for Obama.

1.47pm. CNN calls New Mexico for Obama.

1.33pm. Gap continues to close in Virginia, Obama now only 0.5 per cent behind.

1.25pm. McCain fairly well ahead in Missouri, but nobody’s calling it yet.

1.21pm. Discussion of Indiana on Fox: “central city plus rich suburbs” emerging as the “Obama alliance”, but rural areas holding relatively well for McCain.

1.17pm. Fox calls Ohio for Obama.

1.09pm. Nate Silver: “MSNBC and Fox call Georgia for McCain.”

1.00pm. Fox calls North Dakota for McCain.

12.46pm. Nate Silver on Virginia: “Obama is outperforming Kerry by a 12-15 point net in the Eastern half of the Virginia. In the Western half, he’s not performing much better than Kerry and is actually underperfoming him in some counties. I think that equation works out favorably for Obama on balance, though Virginia will be fairly close.”

12.28pm. Heavily populated Florida counties Orange and Polk are swinging double digits to Obama, blowing away those weaker rural results I was mentioning earlier.

12.12pm. Possum says: “PA has gone Dem, VA has gone Dem – election over”. Adam Carr says: “It’s true that the FL panhandle hasn’t reported yet, but Obama is leading in Orlando and St Petersburg, which are GOP towns. You’d think he’ll win FL from here. Note also Obama’s 75% in Broward – the Jews stuck with Obama despite Lieberman’s defection.”

12.08pm. Discussing Virginia on CNN, confirming the impression that early reporting precincts are rural and we haven’t seen any black areas in the big cities come in. I’m only seeing slight swings to the Democrats in the rural areas.

11.53am. Swings I’m seeing in Florida are also below par: 4.0 per cent in Lake, 2.4 per cent in Manatee, 4.1 per cent in Pinellas. He needs 5.0 per cent.

11.45am. Another substantially reporting Virginia county, Augusta, swinging inadequately to Obama by 5.7 per cent. However, the cities and DC outskirts might tell a different story.

11.37am. Culpeper and Amherst counties in Viriginia swinging 5.1 and 1.8 per cent, against required swing of 8.3 per cent.

11.33am. Manatee County in Florida swinging 2.4 per cent to Democrat – statewide margin is 5.0 per cent.

11.26am. Double digit swings in more counties in Indiana (Clinton, Fayette), but Obama needs 20 per cent across the state.

11.21am. Chesterfield County in Virginia swings 8.9 per cent to Democrat with 94 per cent reporting – the statewide margin in 2004 was 8.2 per cent.

11.09am. Reasonably consistent swings in rural counties in Indiana of around 10 per cent – good, but well short of what Obama would need to win the state if consistent.

10.58am. Swing in Steuben County, Indiana with 68 per cent of precincts reporting is 8.9 per cent: well short of the 20 per cent needed to win the state.

10.52am. 69 per cent of precincts reporting in Vigo County, Indiana – Obama leads by 16 per cent. Bush carried it by 6.4 per cent in 2004 (I’ll be double-posting here on special occasions).

10am. Further efforts will be concentrated above.

4am AEDT. Rain and gusty winds in North Carolina, with rain extending into Virginia. Storms through the north-west, bringing snow to Nevada and Colorado. Weather otherwise very good: fine and warm in Florida and throughout the south, fine and mild through the north-east to the mid-west. You’ll next hear from me at around 9.30am AEDT.

Obama McCain Sample D-EV R-EV
Washington 56.4 39.6 3322 11
Maine 56.5 40.5 2185 4
Minnesota 56.0 41.9 3270 10
Michigan 56.3 42.3 3232 17
New Mexico 57.0 43.2 3305 5
New Hampshire 54.9 41.9 3900 4
Iowa 54.1 41.6 3052 7
Wisconsin 53.3 42.3 3003 10
Colorado 54.8 44.7 3248 9
Pennsylvania 53.0 43.3 5479 21
Nevada 51.6 45.4 3168 5
Virginia 51.9 45.8 3382 13
Ohio 50.5 46.3 6490 20
Florida 49.9 46.8 5381 27
North Dakota 47.6 45.9 1706 3
Montana 48.6 47.6 3934 3
Missouri 49.8 48.8 3217 11
North Carolina 50.0 49.3 5582 15
Indiana 48.5 48.9 3834 11
Georgia 47.8 50.1 3248 15
West Virginia 43.9 54.3 3328 5
Others - - - 175 137
RCP/Total 51.9 44.4 - 370 168

1,508 Comments

  1. 1
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 4:57 am | Permalink

    I don’t think the weather is bad enough to save McCain :)

  2. 2
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    For those of us watching streaming tv on our computers, here’s the link to live coverage on MSNBC. When reporting of results starts later, reporting will be Keith Olbermann, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Chuck Todd et.al, which would be my “A Team”, especially Maddow.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22887506#22887506

    Does not appear to be live MSNBC at the moment.

  3. 3
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 5:44 am | Permalink

    Some early morning inspiration, particularly for my sister American, Julie, from Martin Luther King:

    “In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.”

    No silence from our friends in here!

  4. 4
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 5:46 am | Permalink

    Going back to check out live blogs etc. at http://www.HuffingtonPost.com and http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com.

    cya

  5. 5
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 5:55 am | Permalink

    jjulian do you have links to any of the Republican ones? Might be good for a laugh. Sometimes they’re fun to read so you can marvel at the way they think (almost like aliens)

  6. 6
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 5:57 am | Permalink

    Intrade is Obama at 92.7, up 1.4 from yesterday, and yes on MO at 59% to predict the Electoral Vote will be 364. Much higher EV guesstimate than mine.

  7. 7
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 5:59 am | Permalink

    Itep,

    To be honest, it never entered my mine. Sorry I can’t be more “fair and balanced”. Oh, wait, how about FoxNews—they might have a website.

  8. 8
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:00 am | Permalink

    mind—sheesh!

  9. 9
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:02 am | Permalink

    Yep, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/

  10. 10
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:06 am | Permalink

    I was thinking more of political blogs, that’s where the real loons show up. Or are they unlikely to do live blogging?

  11. 11
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:11 am | Permalink

    jj, here now, I’ve been lost on other websites :-D …… also have the kids getting up shortly, I’m not doing TV at all until after I get them off to school as I promised them I wouldn’t interrupt their cartoons this morning …..

  12. 12
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:12 am | Permalink

    jj, I registered on the tpm site so I could comment on their live blog, comment with a time date stamp of 2pm on the blog …..

  13. 13
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    you will like this one if you didn’t see it on the other thread (didn’t realize for awhile that this thread was open now)

    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 5:14 am | Permalink
    another voter testimonial ….

    My grandmother voted today. She is 86 years old. A white woman born to hardscrabble cattle ranchers in the most desolate part of New Mexico. Our ancestry goes back through West and East Texas, through Tennessee, the Cumberland Gap, and Virginia. This side of the family rode in the Texas 2nd Cavalry during the Civil War. A dark reminder for me of my family's past, she still has receipts for slaves that our family owned. Her first husband was killed in the Battle of the Bulge, sacrificing his life like so many other young men. My mother was two months old at the time. My grandmother has voted Republican her entire life, but today she voted for Barack Obama.

  14. 14
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:14 am | Permalink

    ‘Onya Julie! That’s neato burrito.

  15. 15
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:15 am | Permalink

    Itep,
    Red nation or something like that is what u want, I surmise.

  16. 16
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    Red Nation? As in communism? :)

  17. 17
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:18 am | Permalink

    Nice to see this coalition breaking up today :-D ….

    http://tinyurl.com/56uhsd

  18. 18
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:19 am | Permalink

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com final prediction from Nate Silver is 353 EV, but NC only at 63%, so that would subtract 15 if it goes over to the dark side of the Force. His final probability of an Obama win is 99% with estimated margin of victory at 6%. I hope it is at or above Rudd’s 5.4% 2PP over Howard.

  19. 19
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:20 am | Permalink

    Itep and Julie: LOL for both of you!

  20. 20
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    Crikey! Red Nation is a native american website. I stuffed that one up.

  21. 21
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:25 am | Permalink

    http://www.princetonelection.edu/ Sam Wang’s final is Obama 352 with a Meta-margin of 6.28%.

  22. 22
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    jj, once the first returns are in, I will be in and out from the keyboard, mostly out. Since my tv and computer aren’t within visual distance of each other …. I will be making mad dashes back and forth, lightning raids as it were to the desktop computer …. rotten timing for the laptop to have crashed on Saturday morning :( ….. I can hear the TV from where I am at present (if it were on) but I can’t see it.

  23. 23
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    jj, will try again, wanted to remind you that I wouldn’t be on live with blogging here (once returns start coming in) but only quick dashes to the computer as my laptop died last Saturday. I can hear the TV from where I am at the moment but I can’t “see it”. So if I go silent at times, I haven’t disappeared …. { trying again as a previous attempt at this message with different words was caught up in the spam filter }

  24. 24
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    My liveblogging thread is open now, I’ve also put up a results prediction thread, so if you wanna get in on it before the first exit polls come out in just under 2 1/2 hours, do it now. And people might be interested in this hour-by-hour guide to reading the returns from Slate: http://www.slate.com/id/2203657

  25. 25
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:38 am | Permalink

    to borrow one of your words, jj, jeepers …. this is my 3rd try at this message …..

    I will be watching TV once 10am rolls around and won’t be at the computer much. The only computer I have today is my desktop and it is not in the same room as the television.

    {William cancel the other two attempts at this message please thanks}

  26. 26
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    http://www.pollster.com Mark Blumenthal’s perhaps final prediction is Tossups 105, Obama 291, McCain 142. The non-tossups for Obama are Kerry’s plus IA, NM, CO, NV and VA.

  27. 27
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:47 am | Permalink

    Good luck, Julie.

    I won’t be in here much after 10 either due to the same location problem. Again, mucho thanks for all the time spent setting up the EV contest. I hope yours is a whole lot closer to the result than mine

  28. 28
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 6:49 am | Permalink

    did you see the live countscreen on the main page of theTPM website? ;-) …. that will keep me in touch when I’m in this room ;-) …..

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

  29. 29
    jjulian1009
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    Yep, Julie, been there and will be catching Josh Marshall often as I do the Grand Tour around my favourite sites. :>)

  30. 30
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    do either of you, ltep or jj, know what this little piece is called?

    “little piece” = the connector for 2 ends of telephone “cord” { that thing that goes into the phone jack at the wall on one end and your phone on the other end }.

    I have 2 sections of it and I want to make my phone reach from point a to point b. Neither piece is long enough on its own but together they will work. I know that you can purchase a piece (its a little squarish block about the size of an egg or even smaller) that connects two of those “clippie” ends one on each side, my husband has purchased them before but I dont’ have any in the house at the moment.

    I just don’t know what they are called and I’m wondering if Coles would have it? I’m trying to stretch my phone into the room with the TV. Else, I will be out of the TV room when talking to US relatives today …..

  31. 31
    Al
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    ltep,

    If you’re looking for Republican blogs; I’d look no further than RedState.com.

  32. 32
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    Juliem @ 28
    I don’t know about Coles. My first shot would be Dick Smith’s. I suggest you give them a call before you go.

  33. 33
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    another voting experience story from MD this time …

    My polling place is at the fairgrounds in Southern Maryland, about 40 minutes from Washington, D.C. This used to be tobacco country, but is slowly being developed, or other crops are grown. We waited until 10:00 to vote, to avoid the lines. When we got there a 97-year-old Black man was being wheeled out of the polls in his wheelchair. It was the first time he had ever voted in his life. When he came outside he asked if anyone could give him an Obama button. There were none left at the Democrat's booth so I gave him mine. He was so proud and I started crying. He looked at me and said, "why are you crying? this is a day for glory." I am still crying.

  34. 34
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    thanks boer war …. there’s a DS in Tuggeranong and I can get there in about 15 minutes, door to door including parking. If I drop my kids off at school at 8:30 I ought to be able to get there and back before 10am :) …..

  35. 35
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    28

    juliem, it is called a RJ-11.

  36. 36
    bob1234
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    What’s the best site for realtime updates (automatically refreshing)?

    I’m using http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/feature/splash/1,9199,5018332,00.html at the moment and leaving it in the background, but I don’t know if it automatically updates itself. Looks pretty cool though.

  37. 37
    Al
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    A paper looking at the possible implications from the results of the first voting states:
    http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/unpublished/electionnight.pdf
    The figures at the end (particuarly Figure 2) are quite informative.

  38. 38
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    Sorry, guys, lost the link to this, but it comes from a US site:

    ‘As she waited for her beverages, a local reporter asked the governor how she envisions her role in national politics if McCain loses the election. Palin did not hesitate to muse about a future that might not include being vice president come January.

    “You know, if there is a role in national politics it won’t be so much partisan,” she said. “My efforts have always been here in the state of Alaska to get everybody to unite and work together and progress this state.”

    “It would certainly be a uniter type of role,” she added.

    Asked if she had any regrets about the campaign, Palin bemoaned “the state of journalism today.”

    “The blogosphere, the two, three hour news cycles, where just too much is reported based on gossip and innuendo and things taken out of context,” she explained, adding that she’d like to help improve the profession because she has “great respect for the world of journalism.”

    OK, so, post losing the election, the Palin Strategy combines ‘The Great Uniter’ with ‘It was the fault of the media.’ It would be interesting to see how she thinks she is going to ‘improve the profession.’

  39. 39
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    “My efforts have always been here in the state of Alaska to get everybody to unite and work together and progress this state.”

    That is apart from gay people, pro-choice, liberals etc. etc.

  40. 40
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    I see conservative blogs seem to be solely obsessed with ‘voter fraud’. Where does this insane paranoia come from?

  41. 41
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    ‘Man of the Year’ (2006)…classical political flick and takes the pun out of both sides.

    Just hours to go before we have a….

    President Barack Obama

    or

    President John McCain

  42. 42
    bob1234
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    ltep – the fact that voting machines are already malfunctioning?

  43. 43
    bob1234
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    President John McCain? Oh Glen, at least you’re good for a laugh.

  44. 44
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the blog Al.

    So far I love the blog “McCain touts “alien” endorsement” and this line in their open thread: “Tell us about any irregularities. Give us your best “why the polls are wrong” explanation.”

    I think we can all feel sorry for this baby: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wMi6lvECISc/SRBsJyue93I/AAAAAAAAA-U/iuob3i3vWeY/s1600-h/1025081123a-731243.jpg

  45. 45
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    bob1234, I don’t see how hard it can be to create a voting machine. Couldn’t it be done similar to an ATM?

  46. 46
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    Bob1234 i did put Obama on top…

  47. 47
    bob1234
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    ltep, well Diebold do make voting machines and ATMs, so yeah it shouldn’t be that hard.

    We could go in to the whole Republican/Diebold story, but I really can’t be bothered. Google it for any interested.

  48. 48
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    Glen @ 38
    That would be President-elect Obama or President-elect McCain?

    I suspect they actually get the job in January. But here is a serious question: Given the number of armed fruitcakes in the US, and given the state of McCain’s health, what happens if the president-elect dies before taking up the job?

  49. 49
    Aussieguru01
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    Heres a web-site worth a look at for the vote coun – state by state, county by county!

    http://politicalwire.com/aggregator/electionresults.html

  50. 50
    chrisbtoo
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    Hi gang, what a wonderful day. Obama winning in a MASSIVE LANDSLIDE. All the so called experts still in the river in Egypt. DE NILE.
    What a wonderful day. YES! YES! YES!

  51. 51
    chrisbtoo
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    Hi Glen, still living in the past as usual.

  52. 52
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    President-elect Sarah Palin

  53. 53
    chrisbtoo
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    Obama 400 plus seats in the house 60 seats plus in the senate. Isn’t it a great day!

  54. 54
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    Ok Glen I actually honestly laughed at that. Good one.

  55. 55
    chrisbtoo
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    This is the death of Reaganomics, Thatcherism and Johnny Who?

  56. 56
    chrisbtoo
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    Such a great day for freedom and democracy. Just great to see the A… End of George Bush.

  57. 57
    chrisbtoo
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    So where are the Three Amigos, those giants of political wisdom?

  58. 58
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    Ron Paul’s going to win through write-in.

  59. 59
    chrisbtoo
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    Hi Oz.

  60. 60
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    lol i laughed real hard at that one Oz lol!

  61. 61
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    bob

    As someone in the US said, how come Diebold’s ATMs never overpay you when you get cash but they can’t make a voting machine?

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBaX9GPSaQ

  62. 62
    bob1234
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    “As someone in the US said, how come Diebold’s ATMs never overpay you”

    All ATMs of all types have malfunctions which can underpay and overpay.

  63. 63
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    One Nation Under a Groove, gettin’ down just for the funk of it…

    Most prediction sites are saying 353. I hope Obama gets to 359, because that’s my official landslide benchmark.

  64. 64
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    All ATMs of all types have malfunctions which can underpay and overpay.

    I’ve had one underpay, but never over pay!

    Apparently it had run out of $20 notes mid-way through the transaction.

  65. 65
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    I just don’t understand how these systems couldn’t have been developed years ago and fully bug tested. Surely it’s not that hard. Press one button and then submit. I’d imagine even a basic programmer could manage it.

  66. 66
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Exit poll predictions?

    I think OBama 50 – McCain 45.

  67. 67
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    Does anyone know what the exit polls are?

  68. 68
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Does anyone know what the exit polls are?

    Do you mean how they are done?

  69. 69
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    In answer to a question above: if the winning candidate dies between polling day and when the Electoral College meets in January, the EC will simply elect someone else – EC members are not legally bound to vote for any candidate. They would probably elect the VP candidate, but not necessarily. If the President-designate dies between the sitting of the EC and the inauguration, the VP-designate will be sworn in for the full term. In 1872 Horace Greeley, the defeated Dem candidate, died soon after the election. The Dem members of the EC voted for Thomas Hendricks, his VP candidate.

  70. 70
    Swing Lowe
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    No – the numbers.

  71. 71
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    Classic

    (Homer enters voting booth)

    Homer: Oooh, one of those electronic voting dealies!

    (Homer touches the box for Obama)

    Machine: Beep! One vote for McCain. Thank you.

    Homer: Hee, hee, hee. Nooo, I want to vote for Obama.

    Machine: Beep! Two votes for McCain.

    Homer: Huh!? Come on, it’s time for a change.

    Machine: Beep! Three votes for McCain.

    Homer: No, No, No!

    Machine: Beep, Beep, Beep! Six votes for President McCain.

    Homer: Hey, I only meant one of those votes for McCain…Wait a minute, this machine is rigged!

    (Here the machine opens up, tries to suck Homer inside)

    Must…tell…President…McCain…

    This doesn’t happen in America. Maybe Ohio, but not in America!

    Aargh! Aargh!

    (Machine swallows Homer, then spits him out.)

    http://www.wvpubcast.org/newsarticle.aspx?id=5588
    From new episode of the Simpsons

  72. 72
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    The Simpsons hasn’t been funny for a long time.

  73. 73
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Well there is civilised life in Brisbane. There is a group of Democrats Abroad, including a former philosophy lecturer I know of (Roger Lamb) meeting at a Brisbane pub to watch the election. What an excellent idea :)
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-obama-supporters-confident/2008/11/04/1225560793685.html

  74. 74
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Adam @ 59
    Thank you. It is a scary thought.

  75. 75
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    According to Drudge Report exit polls to be released at 5:15 PM ET.
    In other words very soon.

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

  76. 76
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    Does anybody know a link to the ‘Jeremia Wright’ ads in Pennsylvania?

  77. 77
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Ok, I travelling well today :-D …..

    60 minutes RT

    1. kids to school – check
    2. ATM – check
    3. Gloria Jeans coffee – check
    4. bakery – sugar and chocolate – check
    5. Dick Smith’s for the part I need for my phone to extend it to the next room – check
    6. post office to post 3 ebay auctions outbound – check
    7. phone piece plugged in and working – check
    8. wrote down phone numbers for parents and brother so I don’t have to worry about remembering them under the influence this afternoon – check
    9. catching up on PB here before 10am – check
    10. Obama win – priceless :-D

  78. 78
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Voting machines election one of their own President:
    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/voting_machines_elect_one_of

  79. 79
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    Fox is reporting that exit polls show that 10 percent of all voters are new voters. According to CNN, the number in 2004 was 11 percent.

  80. 80
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    Of course an explanation to that could be that a larger number of new voters have voted early.

  81. 81
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    Dick Smith’s for the part I need for my phone to extend it to the next room

    Good to hear Julie :)

    By the way, if it’s a modern phone connector it’s called an RJ12 connector

  82. 82
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    CNN reporting first time voters went for Obama 72%

  83. 83
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Many comments have just been unlocked from moderation.

  84. 84
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Not that surprising given that most young people vote left early on.

  85. 85
    David Walsh
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Boerwar @ 76,

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/the-wright-card.html

  86. 86
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    exit polls …
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/exit-polls-2008-see-the-f_n_140986.html

  87. 87
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Not that surprising given that most young people vote left early on.

    Not all the first time voters would be young, they have voluntary attendance remember.

  88. 88
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Early exit polls showing tight margins in key states:

    http://gawker.com/5076425/state-exit-poll-numbers-are-tighter-than-recent-polling

  89. 89
    Al
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Drudge is claiming that exit polls are showing a big lead to Obama, with +15 in PA. No links from him yet though.

  90. 90
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    That is true ShowsOn, interesting to see how strong the youth vote is for Obama.

  91. 91
    Nick of McEwen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    juliem, where are you getting those amazing stories from?

  92. 92
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Early exit polls showing tight margins in key states

    No details on that poll at all… where did it come from? how many respondents?

  93. 93
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    CNN reports that McCain is robocalling IN SPANISH Florida households to tell that that Fidel Castro has given his endorsement of Barack Obama ….

    losers ……….

  94. 94
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    The excitment begins…

  95. 95
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    TPM website, they have a “live blogging link” where voters can email in their voting stories on the day …. I’ve closed that site down for the moment as after 10am will be more at the TV than here, will just check in here a coupld of times an hour, but you can load it up and find more stories there ….

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

    they have a nice live updates map on the right hand side of the main page too :)

  96. 96
    Patrick Bateman
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Give me NUMBERS!

  97. 97
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    katastic
    5:40 PM

    Oh my God. I’m going to vomit.

    http://gawker.com/5076425/state-exit-poll-numbers-are-tighter-than-recent-polling

    I hope no pollbludgers would take exit polls as seriously as this Obama supporter lol.

  98. 98
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Screw studying, I’m too tense.

  99. 99
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    David Walsh @ 85
    Thank you. Phew.

  100. 100
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    MORE DATA.

  101. 101
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Itep @ 9
    I think the pollsters have factored in the early voters by sampling them as well. I don’t know the details.

  102. 102
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Oz @ 98, EXACTLY …… :)

  103. 103
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    CNN exit polls have the Economy as top issue at 62%, Iraq 10%, Terrorism 9%, Health Care 9%, Energy 7%

  104. 104
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/04/1634499.aspx

    Lots of machines breaking down in Pennsylvania and Virginia. Woo, democracy.

  105. 105
    Nick of McEwen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    I’m not studying either…

  106. 106
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    You’d imagine McCain would want to be comfortably in front in most states in the ‘on-the-day’ polling to counter the pre-poll votes.

  107. 107
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Polls are closing now in parts of IN and KY. If Mitch McConnell loses in KY it will be a GOP wipeout.

  108. 108
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    CNN exit poll

    62% rate Economy as top issue

    The state of the economy:
    93% Not good/poor
    6% Excellent/poor

    Who will raise taxes:
    70% Obama
    61% McCain

  109. 109
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    sorry… above is 6% Excellent/Good

  110. 110
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Who are these 6% of people?

  111. 111
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Repo men

  112. 112
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Kang and Kodos have endorsed McCain, just as they did Bob Dole in 96. Perhaps Obama can robocall registered republicans to warn of the danger?

  113. 113
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    It will be a GOP wipeout no matter what happens to McConnell

  114. 114
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    @110

    Insolvency administrators?

  115. 115
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    who are kang and kodos?

  116. 116
    Spam Box
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Aliens in the Simpsons Adam

  117. 117
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    John Jackson and Jack Johnson

  118. 118
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    ah popular culture *mutters darkly*
    who have beavis and butthead endorsed?

  119. 119
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    From Drudge (no links or actual figures)

    EXIT POLLS CLAIM 'OBAMA +15' IN PA... DEVELOPING...
    TOO CLOSE TO CALL AT CLOSE: FL, IN, OH...
    MCCAIN KEEPING AZ... DEVELOPING...

  120. 120
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    Also reported is that 16% of Hillary Clinton supporters voted McCain

  121. 121
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    Itep @ 120
    Passive tense… where reported and by whom?

  122. 122
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    McCain up 59-40 in early Kentucky numbers

  123. 123
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Dario 2 122 Help, pulease… link?
    signed
    desperate

  124. 124
    Mary Hannah Wade
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Adam:

    You don’t watch the Simpsons?

    It’s been shown in Australia since February 1991

    That’s just…. oh wow!

  125. 125
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    It also hasn’t been funny since the mid-late 90s

  126. 126
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Dario 2 122 Help, pulease… link?
    signed
    desperate

    http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/full/#val=P

  127. 127
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    boerwar,

    indiana and kentucky #’s (as well as others throughout the evening US time) are on a ticker at the bottom of the CNN screen …. so while they might not CALL a state, you will always be able to see the raw numbers a la the ticker on Fox Sports News …..

    imagine that the cnn website (www.cnn.com) probably has the same thing? if you’ve got the net connection, open another browser window? Cheers :)

  128. 128
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Obama leads 57-42 in Indiana with 1% of precincts reporting

  129. 129
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    IN
    57-42 to Obama with 1% counted

  130. 130
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    I have watched the simpsons at various times in the past. I can sing Big Gay Al’s song, and also Kyle’s Mom is a B*tch. but i gave up on TV several years ago and no longer own one.

  131. 131
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    god i hate wolf blitzer. where is antony green when he need him?

  132. 132
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    thanks guys

  133. 133
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    adam where are you watching this if you don’t have a tv anymore?

  134. 134
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Adam @ 130
    Snap on the TV ownership. No car either.
    Very liberating, except for the footie…

  135. 135
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    CNN exit poll had voters earning $100k+ voting Obama 52-47

  136. 136
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    don’t know where antony is, for that matter, where possum is either …. if either one or both of you guys are lurking today, speak up :-D ……

  137. 137
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    there is a TV in my office.

  138. 138
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Indianna down to 55/45

  139. 139
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    that will change when the precincts in Gary close at 7pm :-D

  140. 140
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    More unconfirmed exit polls from huffpost (”These head to head exit polls just were sent to the Huffington Post by a Democratic source. These are traditionally unreliable…”):

    Fl – 52%-44% to Obama
    In – 52-48%
    Oh 54-45%
    NC – 52% – 48%
    Mo – 52% – 48%
    Pa – 57 – 42%

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/exit-polls-2008-see-the-f_n_140986.html

    Go 51-47% to Mccain

  141. 141
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    possum would presumably be telling us by now that Obama is about to win Kooyong.

  142. 142
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Exit polls:
    Late deciders

    Indiana 52 Obama 45 McCain
    Ohio 54 Obama 39 McCain
    Virginia 44 Obama 55 McCain

    New voters all swung to Obama
    72% Obama; 27% McCain

  143. 143
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Early votes Kentucky:

    62/37 (McCain)

    Indiana now 52/47

  144. 144
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    mccain is pulling 62% in KY and mcconnell is only pulling 54% suggests that the Repub. aren’t voting straight party tickets and by the end of the evening mcconnell might be in danger glen ….

    (cnn ticker at the bottom of the screen)

  145. 145
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Just got back from seeing Mercury Rev live at Mandela Hall, Queen’s University, Belfast. They commented they would not be returning to the US if Obama lost :) , and that it was great to be among friends on such a special night….

  146. 146
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    It should be noted that earlier precincts reporting are usually rural precincts which tend to favour Republicans

  147. 147
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Obama now 50-49 in Indiana.

    McCain 62-37 in Kentucky.

  148. 148
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Glen, KY update – mccain 68% mcconnell 58%

  149. 149
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    CNN exit polls report that white evangelicals voted McCain 72-26 (Bush got 78)

  150. 150
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    The historical pattern in the US is that small rural precincts in the east come in first, followed shortly after by a flood of big-city precincts. So you get an early Republican wave, followed by a Democrat tsunami. Then the small-and-medium-city vote, particularly from the farm and mountain states, comes in, and drags the total back towards the Republicans.

  151. 151
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    I know this question has been asked a billion times, but what’s an easy to read, simple, online electoral map?

  152. 152
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Make that 68/31 in Kentucky

  153. 153
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    MSNBC have a good one on their front page. Updating regularly.

  154. 154
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Thanks, injuddstree.

  155. 155
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Indiana is looking better for McCain atm, but who can tell so early on.

  156. 156
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Wait till Indianapolis and Gary come in after 11am.

  157. 157
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    True that Adam.

  158. 158
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    @151 or you can try the NYT map, which has a little more details on the hover…

    http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html

  159. 159
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Indiana is irrelevant to who actually wins. The election is not going to be decided there. VA, PA, OH, FL and CO are the important ones.

  160. 160
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Est. 75% turnout in Virginia (according to AP)

  161. 161
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Kentucky in to 51/48

  162. 162
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    KY Senate 9% counted – Dem 51% Rep 49% ….

    trends are moving the wrong way at the moment for you Glen ….

  163. 163
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    At the MSNBC site, you can click on the map, and see a county map of each state, showing which counties are in and who they voted for.

  164. 164
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    It’s early days.

  165. 165
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Just read this amusing comment on another blog:

    “If McCain wins he’ll know it was Sarah and Joe the Plumber who got him over the line”

  166. 166
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    160, I saw #’s on another website earlier today that said 90% or better in CT .. heavy turnout everywhere :-D ….. heavy turnout never favors the incumbent or his party

  167. 167
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    The Repugs have told MSNBC that Dole has lost NC. You beauty!! The Repugs have called NC an Obama tsunami.

  168. 168
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Msnbc …. first use of the words ‘Obama tsunami’ in relation to North Carolina

  169. 169
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    New Hampshire 66/33. Guess which way.

  170. 170
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Oz that’s based on about 60 votes isn’t it?

  171. 171
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    If you look at the map of Indiana, you can see that none of the urban counties are reporting yet. McCain should be a long way ahead on the rural vote. If he’s not he will lose when the urban vote comes in. Indianapolis is a heavily Dem city, with a black congresswoman.

  172. 172
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    More like 40 ltep, hah.

  173. 173
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    the nbc map seems to be ahead of the NY Times one

  174. 174
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    ha ha …. republican strategists are on CNN blaming the empty checkbook that they were working with for the poor results they are seeing … “if only we had more money …..” … yeah, right :-D …. all that would have resulted in would have been more robo-calls ;-)

  175. 175
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    ltep
    If Obama wins I think Sarah will have helped get him over the line too! Strange girl.

  176. 176
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Boerwar

    The phrase “Obama tsunami” was SMSed to them by a Repug staffer.

  177. 177
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    ROFL Peter van Onselen on Channel 9.

    Go write a book.

  178. 178
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    CNN calls

    Vermont for Obama
    Kentucky for McCain

  179. 179
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    KY called for McCain!

  180. 180
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    And we’re under way…
    MSNBC just called Kentucky for Mccain.

  181. 181
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    KY called for McCain and Vermont for Obama by MSNBC

  182. 182
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Oh, and Vermont for Obama, as Dario says…

  183. 183
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Oh, and 38 votes the difference in Indianna with 4% reporting!

  184. 184
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    ABC (USA) did the same.

  185. 185
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    OK, I think we’re on top of states being called :)

  186. 186
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Lunsford is leading the KY Senate race with 9% reporting.

  187. 187
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Indiana very tight after 4%

  188. 188
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    The Dems are also leading in KY-2, an open Repub district in rural KY.

  189. 189
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    CNN calls Mark Warner as winner

  190. 190
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Indiana very very close with mainly rural precincts counted so far.

  191. 191
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    …of Virginia Senate race that is

  192. 192
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Warner is winner in VA; bodes WELL for Obama although the Presidential race not called yet ….

  193. 193
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    But as KY is proving, voters can split their ballots. It seems quite possible that KY will vote for McCain but give the Dems the Senate seat.

  194. 194
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    McCain goes into the lead in Indiana.

  195. 195
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    There’s 1000 votes in it in Indiana

  196. 196
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    But as KY is proving, voters can split their ballots. It seems quite possible that KY will vote for McCain but give the Dems the Senate seat.

    Did anyone expect Obama to win Kentucky?

  197. 197
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    Who’s watching Fox News for the laughs?

  198. 198
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    Wow ABC calling SC for Obama.

  199. 199
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    McCain pulling further ahead in Indiana

  200. 200
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Obama back ahead in Indiana 50-49 by 3,500 votes, 7% of precincts

  201. 201
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    From 538:

    INDIANA: Just looking at some of the places where we have results in so far. Obama is substantially outperforming Kerry -- which is what he needs to do to win the state, of course, but the differences are pretty substantial.

    Steuben: Kerry 34%, Obama 42%
    DeKalb: Kerry 31%, Obama 38%
    Knox: Kerry 36%, Obama 54%
    Marshall: Kerry 31%, Obama 50%

  202. 202
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Virginia results trickling in..

  203. 203
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Oz @ 198 …… COOOOOL :-D …… expect then for CNN to not be far behind ;-)

  204. 204
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Wow ABC calling SC for Obama.

    No way! That has been rock solid for McCain.

  205. 205
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Virginia 1% counted, Obama leads 55-44

  206. 206
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Virginia results trickling in..

    It’s all over if McCain can’t win there.

  207. 207
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Virginia 1% counted, Obama leads 55-44

    Must be a uni town.

  208. 208
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    If Obama can win in Indiana and Virginia surely thats enough, given the polls elsewhere? He’d then only need CO and NV.

  209. 209
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    22% black turnout in VA. Compared with 21% in 2004.

  210. 210
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    and Florida…

  211. 211
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    is that US ABC or our ABC?

  212. 212
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Wow ABC calling SC for Obama.

    Surely not…

  213. 213
    seanofperth
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    VA going McCain with 1% counted

  214. 214
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    and that’s MCCain 55-44 in Virginia… and leading 53-47 in Florida, too early to be meaningfyl of course…

  215. 215
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    McCain 55-45 in VA

  216. 216
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Indiana is going to go down to the wire, literally

  217. 217
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Wolf Blitzer is beaming people into the studio!

  218. 218
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    MSNBC has McCain ahead in VA, on very early figures from rural areas.

  219. 219
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    OMG, now they are using holograms of reporters on CNN

  220. 220
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    US ABC, Adam.

    They didn’t give figures though.

  221. 221
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    what does “down to the wire” mean, literally?

  222. 222
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    If Obama can win in Indiana and Virginia surely thats enough, given the polls elsewhere? He’d then only need CO and NV.

    Unless McCain wins New York and California…

  223. 223
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    CNN must have had those early VA numbers backwards

  224. 224
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Down to the wire means it won’t be called for a while.

  225. 225
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    what does “down to the wire” mean, literally?

    Well, where the wire is… down there…

  226. 226
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    CNN is talking about how they are filming their coverage.

    BORING!

  227. 227
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Something to do with a telegraph wire?

  228. 228
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Early Florida McCain 54-46

  229. 229
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    No, that’s what it means figuratively. What does it mean literally?

  230. 230
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Indiana 9% counted McCain 50-49, leads by 2k votes

  231. 231
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Origins of down to the wire:

    American racetracks in the latter part of the nineteenth century — before the days of cameras — had a wire strung across the track above the finishing line to help stewards decide which nose had got across the line first.

  232. 232
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    The IN figures now include South Bend (Obama 64%), but not Indianapolis or Gary.

  233. 233
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    http://www.goenglish.com/DownToTheWire.asp

    Wire = finish line, apparently.

  234. 234
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    McCain now ahead by 2,500 in Indiana and 6,500 in Florida

  235. 235
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    No, that’s what it means figuratively. What does it mean literally?

    I think when they used to have a wire stretched across the course finish line in horse racing

  236. 236
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Thanks Itep. What does “under the pump” mean?

  237. 237
    Spam Box
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    lol_ 199 or 200 (which one to choose) ;)

  238. 238
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    McCain pulling further ahead in Florida

  239. 239
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    McCain now 10,500 ahead in Florida 54-46

  240. 240
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Wtf every network is using real figures and Channel 9 is still “Exit polls”.

  241. 241
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Adam

    what does “down to the wire” mean, literally?

    I think it’s from horse racing as in a wire across the finish line. Or it could be a garotting in this context.

  242. 242
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    I’ll believe SC when I see it, and probably not even then

  243. 243
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Adam, stfu.

  244. 244
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Regarding idioms, not SC.

  245. 245
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    McCain now almost 5,000 votes in front in Indianna

  246. 246
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    The votes in FL are all from small rural GOP counties.

  247. 247
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    GA early results in…

  248. 248
    bob1234
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Oz – http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/feature/splash/1,9199,5018332,00.html

  249. 249
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    McCain 10,000 in front in IN now!

  250. 250
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    The votes in FL are all from small rural GOP counties.

    When will the socialist counties start reporting?

  251. 251
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    McCain pulling away in Indianna, now almost 10,000 votes in the lead

  252. 252
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    I’ll believe SC when I see it, and probably not even then

    Given that they haven’t even started reporting results there, I reckon its BS

  253. 253
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Yes in horse racing they still have a wire above the finish line with photos taken from above so that the line can be seen in relation to the horse.

  254. 254
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    The same is true in VA, these figures are from three rural counties. The Dem vote is in the DC suburbs and the black areas along the coast.

  255. 255
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Wat do we think, McCain doing well enough in Indiana to at least hold there??

  256. 256
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    McCain 10,000 in front in IN now!

    Rural precincts reporting first remember

  257. 257
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Looks like he will hold VA

  258. 258
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Sorry, IN

  259. 259
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Then surely ALL races go “down to the wire”, not just close ones?

  260. 260
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Looks like he will hold VA

    Waaaaaaaaay to early to say that

  261. 261
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    When will the socialist counties start reporting?

    2072.

  262. 262
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Adam. Yes.

  263. 263
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Holy crap, McCain won Indianapolis.

  264. 264
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Then surely ALL races go “down to the wire”, not just close ones?

    No, because if it isn’t close then you didn’t need the wire to tell who won :)

  265. 265
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    WOW! The Socialist-Democratic strong holds haven’t even reported in Indiana.

  266. 266
    injuddstree
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    OBAMA 40,000 AHEAD IN FL?!?!

  267. 267
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Only 2% of precincts are reporting from Indianapolis. Keep calm.

  268. 268
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    But they haven’t completed the race until the wire is reached… anyway, let’s stop that :)

  269. 269
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    OBAMA 40,000 AHEAD IN FL?!?!

    Early days but McCain should be leading early so that is surprising

  270. 270
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Thats right; they used to only take a photo if a horse race was close. If not the wire didn’t matter.

  271. 271
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Yeah SC is definitely McCain, ABC must’ve been on crack.

  272. 272
    BH
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Wow – CNN just showed how well Obama is doing in Indiana in comparison with 2004. Looks promising as lots of numbers to come from ‘blue’ areas yet.

  273. 273
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    But they haven’t completed the race until the wire is reached… anyway, let’s stop that

    Yeah, and the term “ground game” is now officially banned.

  274. 274
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    Wolf Blitzer just announced the time.

  275. 275
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    @263 It’ll take a while longer for results to come out of Indianapolis. Population of 1 milion, dont know how many voters

  276. 276
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    Yeah Wolf Blitzer said the numbers are wrong.

  277. 277
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    I’d be thinking Indianna is a tough ask.

  278. 278
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    IN is looking very good. Obama is outperforming Kerry by about 10% in the counties that are in so far.

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/indiana.html

    I’d forgotten how repulsive Graham Richardson is on Ch 9.

  279. 279
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Exit polls for Ohio look promising for Obama.

  280. 280
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    They need Antony Green there to measure the county by county swings!

  281. 281
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    All votes are counted at precinct level. A precinct is about 1000 voters. They are then aggregated to county level. A county can have 10,000 voters or a million voters. So votes will be trickling in from precints into county centres, and small counties will report first.

  282. 282
    Zedar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    The numbers in Florida so far look good, 330k obama, 220k mccain, though with only 2% reporting…

  283. 283
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    James Carville says that if Obama wins, he wins, but if he loses, he loses.

  284. 284
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Exit polls for Ohio look promising for Obama

    I think exit polls at state levels are pretty unreliable

  285. 285
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Anyone explained Florida yet?

  286. 286
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    James Carville says that if Obama wins, he wins, but if he loses, he loses

    No arguing, the man is a genius. An alien-looking genius.

  287. 287
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    No arguing, the man is a genius. An alien-looking genius.

    Totally, but that wasn’t his most insightful piece of work.

  288. 288
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Anyone explained Florida yet?

    No but the numbers have been updated to Obama 57-43 after 2%

  289. 289
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Obama 57% in Florida.

    150,000 votes ahead. Wow.

  290. 290
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    57 to 43 to Obama in Florida!?

  291. 291
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    McConnell is now ahead in the KY Senate race.

  292. 292
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    National vote after 1% has Obama 51-48

  293. 293
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Why can’t CNN get holograms of Obama and McCain in the studio at hte same time?

  294. 294
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    McConnell is now ahead in the KY Senate race.

    Is he the minority leader?

  295. 295
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Florida should be kicked out the US. They clearly don’t know how to hold an election.

  296. 296
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Obama well ahead in Florida – how much do the early numbers reflect the voters who voted early?

  297. 297
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Obama leads 53-46 in SC after 15k votes lol

  298. 298
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Obama cannot be that far ahead in FL on the counties that have reported so far. No votes from the Miami area at all!

  299. 299
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    MSNBC have also awarded 3 Senate seats (Dem 2 Rep 1) so far. Any surprises there? Do these represent gains or just return of safe seats?

  300. 300
    BH
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    Just checked FixedNews – Britt Hume (I think) seems to have a ‘gloomy look’ face or is it just that he always looks like that.

  301. 301
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    MSNBC have also awarded 3 Senate seats (Dem 2 Rep 1) so far. Any surprises there? Do these represent gains or just return of safe seats?

    1 Dem gain I believe

  302. 302
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    On early results Obama ahead in North and South Carolina

  303. 303
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    BH @ 299,

    Both :-D …….

  304. 304
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Florida Obama 55-45 after 4%

  305. 305
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    7% increase in white evangelicals in Indiana compared to 2004.

  306. 306
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    The VA Senate seat has been given to the Dems. The other two are presumably KY (GOP head) and NC (GOP ahead on very early figures)

  307. 307
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    IN looking really good. Obama holding well before most of the “blue” areas have been counted. Both Betfair and Intrade have moved Indiana to Obama with about a 66% chance of a win.

  308. 308
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    South Carolina called for McCain ion MSNBC

  309. 309
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    MSNBC calls SC for McCain

  310. 310
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    I think the SC vote is coming from rural black areas. In SC the white republicans live in the cities like Charleston and Spartanville.

  311. 311
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    Apparently 1/3 of voters in Indiana who voted for the Republican Senator voted for Obama for President.

  312. 312
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Apparently 1/3 of voters in Indiana who voted for the Republican Senator voted for Obama for President

    Very interesting

  313. 313
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Except there’s no Senate race in IN

  314. 314
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Fox calls WV for McCain

  315. 315
    Grant
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    CNN has Obama 350 000 ahead in Florida. Should early returns be favouring the Democrat?

  316. 316
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    West Virginia reportedly called for MCCain.

  317. 317
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Except there’s no Senate race in IN

    I meant Governor.

  318. 318
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    CNN has Obama 350 000 ahead in Florida. Should early returns be favouring the Democrat?

    No.

  319. 319
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    probably was meant to be the gov. race in IN :)

  320. 320
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Adam 2 298
    CNN gives: 1,294,042, 58% to Obama and 942,474, 42% to McCain.

    Might be the pre-poll votes?

  321. 321
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Dio,

    are you channel switching? Fox supports the red states LOL ….

  322. 322
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Vote blowing out in Florida

  323. 323
    Grant
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Early votes in from NH on CNN. Obama ahead by 3000 with 3% reporting

  324. 324
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    There’s some pretty silly stuff. SC called for McCain despite being behind 43-55 with 0% counted. Lots of the calls are on exit polls.

  325. 325
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    I don’t know whether the prepolls are now being fed into these figures.

  326. 326
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Lots of the calls are on exit polls.

    What did they learn from 2000!?

  327. 327
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Obama almost 100,000 votes in front in North Carolina

  328. 328
    Grant
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    McCain 50 000 ahead in Virginia, but it seems only the real America distrcits are reporting at this stage.

    I wonder how surreal America will vote.

  329. 329
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Has CNN called Florida for OBama!?

  330. 330
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    MSNBC just broke.

  331. 331
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Now CNN calls S.C. for McCain, even though he is currently losing.

  332. 332
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    How one earth is CNN calling south carolina based on 1% of the vote?

  333. 333
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    No.

  334. 334
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Wolf Blitzer asks Anderson Cooper to make him a gin & tonic.

  335. 335
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    14% counted in FL and Obama leads 56-44… that is an ominous lead

  336. 336
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    The don’t just “call it” when it’s beyond any doubt. That’s why they get it wrong sometimes.

  337. 337
    Gusface
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Shows
    CNN are projecting based on current figures in

    The problem is their projections are based on 2004 data lol

  338. 338
    BH
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    I’m switching channels – just heard Rove (urggghhh!) saying that Obama is doing better and is far ahead in bigger counties and McCain is doing better than expected but in smaller counties – do you think he is suggesting Obama will win Florida, Juliem?

  339. 339
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    How one earth is CNN calling south carolina based on 1% of the vote?

    Exit polls. And maybe comparing with Kerry / Bush.

  340. 340
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    MSNBC calls PA for Obama

  341. 341
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    PA called for Obama!

  342. 342
    Grant
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Beware Florida, very few results in from the north of the state.

  343. 343
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    MSNBC calls PA for Obama!

  344. 344
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    ABC gives PA and New Hampshire to Obama.

  345. 345
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    All the 8pm closing expected states now called for the respective candidates. No real surprises.

  346. 346
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    PA already??? It’s all over then…

  347. 347
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    NH to Obama MSNBC

  348. 348
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    CNN not calling PA

  349. 349
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    No 339

    I think I’d wait for real votes.

  350. 350
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Yes, quite – DC, Illinois…

  351. 351
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    EV total on CNN to date including states just called at the top of the hour

    77 Obama
    34 McCain

  352. 352
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Chris Matthews calls the election for Obama. Says Obama winning Pennsylviana is “the second battle of Gettysburg”. LOL! :D

    Chris Matthews declares his candidancy for the Democratic Pensylviania primary for 2012

  353. 353
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    EV total on CNN to date including states just called at the top of the hour

    77 Obama
    34 McCain

    103 / 34 Obama’s way on MSNBC

  354. 354
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Is that it? Pennsylvania for Obama, and with it, the election?

  355. 355
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    EV 133-34 on MSNBC

  356. 356
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    McCain now ahead in SC

  357. 357
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    It’s not over until FL, OH, IN or VA are called. Then it’s over.

  358. 358
    dovif
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    What is going on South Carolina is called for McClane, but Obama has more votes

  359. 359
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    BH @ 338, not sure … what channel are you watching? You said “Rove”, does that mean you are on Fox?

    Rove was reported earlier on HP in one article as saying Obama would walk away with it today ….

  360. 360
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    sorry 103-34

  361. 361
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Put down your glasses, all :)

  362. 362
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    PA’s only been called on exit polls btw.

  363. 363
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    It’s idiotic to call a state based on exit polls, no matter what they say.

  364. 364
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    No 363

    I agree. It is the height of arrogance to do such a thing and looks more like a race between the media outlets as to who can call the state first.

  365. 365
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    That’s why CNN says they aren’t calling it.

  366. 366
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    ShowsOn,

    glad to hear it (#353) but I’m hanging on CNN as I need to get their count for my head count on our EV contest :) ….

    Seems to me that CNN is going the same way but is a bit slower about it … I Don’t mind that at all because then I know what I am waiting for LOL ….

    I’ll read what MSNBC are calling and then wait for CNN to do the same :-D

  367. 367
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    It’s true that the FL panhandle hasn’t reported yet, but Obama is leading in Orlando and St Petersburg, which are GOP towns. You’d think he’ll win FL from here. Note also Obama’s 75% in Broward – the Jews stuck with Obama despite Lieberman’s defection.

  368. 368
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Dio @ 357,

    The Fat Lady is warming up with Obama getting PA :-D …..

  369. 369
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    The senate race is also up to Dem 7 Rep 3 on MSNBC – surely there is more than 1 Dem gain involved?

  370. 370
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    I reckon FL has gone blue. That is just too big a lead after 20% and in counties that Bush won as well.

  371. 371
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    The Fat Lady is warming up with Obama getting PA :-D …..

    He hasn’t gotten it.

  372. 372
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Early counting in Ohio: Obama 69/30

  373. 373
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    the Jews stuck with Obama despite Lieberman’s defection.

    Who’s Lieberman?

  374. 374
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Obama ahead in Texas according to NYT

  375. 375
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    The senate race is also up to Dem 7 Rep 3 on MSNBC - surely there is more than 1 Dem gain involved?

    No, still just the 1 I think

  376. 376
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Obama ahead in Texas according to NYT

    LOL! No way. Must be the socialist counties.

  377. 377
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Obama ahead in Texas according to NYT

    Surely you jest

  378. 378
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    We should remember in Florida that there are big conservative urban blocks in the Cuban areas of Miami etc that might come in late. Still I agree Dario – a 400,000 lead is a pretty good start.

  379. 379
    Grant
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    No 374

    I assume that will be Austin

  380. 380
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    That’s because of Dallas, I presume.

  381. 381
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Who’s Lieberman?

    Formerly Dem leaning independent Senator

  382. 382
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    *Laughs at the idea of socialists in Texas*

  383. 383
    Zedar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Apparently Hispanics are breaking 55/45 for Obama in Florida, so the Cuban areas might not save Mccain.

  384. 384
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    No 377

    Check the website yourself.

  385. 385
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Obama way ahead in Ohio, but the areas in favour him, I think…

  386. 386
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    The Pollster site tells you which news organisations have called which state. Only ABC and NBC have called PA, I’ll wait for the other four or at least three.

  387. 387
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    We should remember in Florida that there are big conservative urban blocks in the Cuban areas of Miami etc that might come in late

    CNN has been showing the counties that have come in and they are all heavily for Obama after being solid Bush counties from 4 years ago

  388. 388
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    He was Gore’s VP candidate in 2000, now campaigning for McCain. But he doesn’t seem to have had much effect on the Jewish vote. Obama’s speech at AIPAC was well-received.

  389. 389
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    In Fla, Osceola County Obama up 54-46, this was a Rep county last time…

  390. 390
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    He was Gore’s VP candidate in 2000, now campaigning for McCain. But he doesn’t seem to have had much effect on the Jewish vote. Obama’s speech at AIPAC was well-received.

    That’s becuase he is irrelevent, hence my comment.

  391. 391
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Maybe these big Dem surges in the early figures are the prepolls being fed into the system. It would be good to know how many of the votes being reported are actually “Tuesday votes” and how many are prepolls.

  392. 392
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Obama over 120,000 votes ahead in Texas according to NYT update.

  393. 393
    BH
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Juliem – I am switching between CNN, Skye News & Fox just to see results. Computer in study, away from TV, so I am wearing out the carpet a lot going back and fro.

    Karl Rove on Fox – heard him yesterday calling it for Obama but earlier this a.m. he was saying McCain was picking up and was confident, so a surprise to hear him virtually calling it for Obama in Florida. He said that the McCain vote is better than Bush’s but it is in small counties – Obama is much further ahead than expected in the bigger counties. Sounded good for Obama

  394. 394
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Sununu loses

  395. 395
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Biden wins his Senate seat again!

  396. 396
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    He’s only ahead in Texas because two of the biggest cities have come. Virtually every other county will be Republican. Obama won’t win Texas.

  397. 397
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    What is the URL for the CNN webpage with results (not video feed)?

  398. 398
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    NH is a Dem sweep. It’s only a decade since NH was rock-solid GOP.

  399. 399
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    He’s only ahead in Texas because two of the biggest cities have come. Virtually every other county will be Republican. Obama won’t win Texas.

    DAMN! I wanted him to set up a ranch there!

  400. 400
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Oz @ 371,

    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
    The Fat Lady is warming up with Obama getting PA …..

    He hasn’t gotten it.

    You picked McCain, you’re biased ;-) …. I’ll go with MSNBC ;-)

  401. 401
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Florida narrows slightly, but Obama still looks good.

  402. 402
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/

  403. 403
    dovif
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    If texas votes Obama, there is not going to be a fat enough “Fat Lady”

  404. 404
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Obama is leading in ME by 2 votes to 1. A small sample indeed.

  405. 405
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    You picked McCain, you’re biased ;-) …. I’ll go with MSNBC ;-)

    MSNBC = Exit polls.

    I’ll wait for actual votes.

  406. 406
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Socrates

    http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/

  407. 407
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    WHAT! Obama up by 17% in North Carolina?

  408. 408
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    LOL, also according to NYT, Obama ahead in Maine. Current counting: Obama 2 votes; McCain 1 vote. :D

  409. 409
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    and up about 84% in Alabama :)

  410. 410
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Virginia surprising, McCain 55-42 after 31%

  411. 411
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Wolf Blitzer asks Anderson Cooper for a Vodka-Tonic.

  412. 412
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    It’s not true that all of rural TX votes GOP. The southern third of the state is solidly Hispanic and Dem. Austin, El Paso and San Antonio are heavily Dem. The GOP strength is in the cowboy west and north and the cotton counties in the east.

  413. 413
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    No 410

    Yep. Considering that Obama expected an easy win there.

  414. 414
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    ShowsOn are you in some kind of alternate universe?

    I got Wolf talking to Axelrod right now.

  415. 415
    Gusface
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    If you get the chance check out mccains campaign room on CNN

    they know the truth

  416. 416
    seanofperth
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    What the heck is going on in Virginia?

  417. 417
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Obama still ahead in Texas by 80,000.

  418. 418
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    MYEFO released!

    Surplus slashed from $21 billion now down to $5.4 billion.

  419. 419
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Oh, Oh, Florida ballots in doubt again…They had a bizarre ballot where you had to colour in the bit between two shapes to make an arrow to point to your preferred candidate! Legal eagles are drooling at the thought of a re-run…

  420. 420
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    NYT has early OH returns at 65.3% for Obama and 33.5% to McCain. Montgomery county (SW near the IN border, one county on the border with PA and multiple counties on Lake Erie. Columbus not in yet …..

  421. 421
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Well 3 of the strongest Democratic areas have come in and there’s huge conservative swathes that haven’t.

  422. 422
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    2% GDP growth of Aus, woo.

  423. 423
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    No 418

    Given how much money is about to flow into the economy thanks to a spending spree and a 2% interest rate cut, I think that outlook is slightly pessimistic.

  424. 424
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Hagan Beats Dole in North Carolina

    Kay Hagan takes another Senate seat for Dems.

    Score one for the Godless American Sunday school teacher.

    This is the third Democratic Senate pickup of the night; Warner (VA), Shaheen (NH), and Hagan (NC).

  425. 425
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    CNN gives only a 1% difference between total national votes between Obama (50%) and McCain (49%).

  426. 426
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    CNN calls NH for Obama

  427. 427
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    MSNBC has called PA for Obama

  428. 428
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Surplus slashed from $21 billion now down to $5.4 billion

    Well $10b of that was already known… I think 5.4 isnt too bad considering

  429. 429
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    ABC America calls Alabama for McCain. Arkansas also McCain.

  430. 430
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Alabama projected for McCain

  431. 431
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Kay Hagan takes another Senate seat for Dems.

    Score one for the Godless American Sunday school teacher.

    Is she in the Atheist-Socialist party?

  432. 432
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Where does Soledad’s accent come from?

  433. 433
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Dole loses senate seat.

  434. 434
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t they call PA for Obama ages ago based on nothing?

  435. 435
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    MSNBC has called PA for Obama

    Didn’t they do that half an hour ago? Still no real votes.

  436. 436
    Inner Westie
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Any news on Joe the Plumber? (I hope he remembered to vote!)

  437. 437
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    McConnell only up by 2%

  438. 438
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    McCain takes the lead in Texas. Bad luck, GP.

  439. 439
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Where does Soledad’s accent come from?

    Irish-Australian Dad, African American mum.

  440. 440
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Georgia called for McCain by msnbc

  441. 441
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    No 438

    Rejoice. I’m barracking for McCain anyway.

  442. 442
    seanofperth
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    florida tight 52-48, been trending mccain since the start, hope BHO pulls through

  443. 443
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    CNN gives PA to Obama

  444. 444
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    CNN gives PA to Obama

    MSNBC did that half hour ago!

  445. 445
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Western Florida hasn’t come through yet. Is that Dem or Repub?

  446. 446
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    NC not looking good for McCain, with Obama leading 56-44 after 12% counted

  447. 447
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    McCain leads popula count…

  448. 448
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    MSNBC did that half hour ago!

    Yes, CNN is being cautious

  449. 449
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    popular… overall.

  450. 450
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    In fact, not a single state has flipped either way yet. Lots of excitement and noise but nothing important.

  451. 451
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    PA is 66% Obama but that’s with Philadelphia in.

  452. 452
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    MSNBC has called the NC Senate race for Hagan.

  453. 453
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    It’s definitely not the looking like the easy win some were predicting.

  454. 454
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    It’s definitely not the looking like the easy win some were predicting

    Not sure how you can say that… no swing states have been called either way other than PA

  455. 455
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    No 451

    But only 12,000 votes have been counted – how can they declare it either way. Ridiculous.

  456. 456
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    But only 12,000 votes have been counted - how can they declare it either way. Ridiculous.

    Overwhelming exit polls it would seem

  457. 457
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Apparently even Fox has called Pennsylviana for Obama.

  458. 458
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    But only 12,000 votes have been counted - how can they declare it either way. Ridiculous.

    I don’t get it either, three networks have called it based on those figures and exit polls.

  459. 459
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Not sure how you can say that… no swing states have been called either way other than PA

    and its not really a swing state

  460. 460
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Margin in FL drops from 250K to 150K

  461. 461
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    I don’t get it either, three networks have called it based on those figures and exit polls.

    Obama is leading in countes 55/45 that Bush won by similar margins.

    So they are extrapolating from that Antony Green style.

  462. 462
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    I don’t get it either, three networks have called it based on those figures and exit polls.

    Well, they’ve called heaps of other states without getting any votes based on just exit polls, so clearly PA was in the same boat

  463. 463
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    No 458

    It looks far too much like a race to call the states between the networks. Self-serving nonsense. Let’s wait for some figures – heck, imagine the outrage if seats in Australian elections were called by the networks based on less than 1% of the votes!

  464. 464
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    The difference being none of those were swing states.

  465. 465
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Is it just me, or does it look like Florida is coming home for ‘Bama?

  466. 466
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Further narrowing in Florida.

  467. 467
    Glen
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    I’m calling it for Obama.

    Enjoy the day Democratic Folks.

  468. 468
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    North Carolina tightening

  469. 469
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Carville almost conceding McConnell’s seat senate seat back to the Repubs

  470. 470
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Cheers Glen

  471. 471
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Sure, call PA on 0% but don’t call VA when McCain is 10% ahead after 43% voted. Weird.

  472. 472
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    No 471

    I reckon. Very bizarre.

  473. 473
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Make that 5% ahead Oz

  474. 474
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Sure, call PA on 0% but don’t call VA when McCain is 10% ahead after 43% voted. Weird.

    Have the results come in from the anti-American parts?

  475. 475
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Sure, call PA on 0% but don’t call VA when McCain is 10% ahead after 43% voted. Weird.

    Not if exit polls say PA to Obama by 12% and they say 50-50 in VA

  476. 476
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Have the results come in from the anti-American parts?

    hahaha not yet I think…

  477. 477
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Early votes, Missouri – McCain 58/40

  478. 478
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    5%

  479. 479
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Sure, call PA on 0% but don’t call VA when McCain is 10% ahead after 43% voted. Weird.

    btw he’s only 5% ahead after 50% counted

  480. 480
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Not if exit polls say PA to Obama by 12% and they say 50-50 in VA

    Exit polls are a rort.

    It’s probably heavily republican areas in VA that have come in, and now it’s evening up.

  481. 481
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    And lots of Obama areas outstanding..

  482. 482
    Zedar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    CNN’s exit polls in Virginia put Obama on about 55% from what I can see, which is why nobody is in a rush to call it I’m guessing. They also put him on around 53% in Missouri, which I really didn’t expect him to win.

  483. 483
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Re 482,

    yeah, on MO, if you look at the NYT map, the only Dem. county reporting is the Kansas City one on the western border ……

  484. 484
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    The big close coming up…

  485. 485
    ltep
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Which is why exit polls should be ignored and states only called once it is clear someone has won on the actual vote.

  486. 486
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Virginia has probably been dominated by the more conservative rural areas.

    In the Senate, the race in Kentucky looks extremely close, while it’s worth looking at Texas. The Democrat is trailing 50-48 with 2% counted.

    Polls now closing in much of the west.

  487. 487
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Which is why exit polls should be ignored

    not if the lead is massive

  488. 488
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    MI for Obama/and MN

  489. 489
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Which is why exit polls should be ignored and states only called once it is clear someone has won on the actual vote.

    Then there’d be nothing to distinguish the networks!

    Remember, they’re competing for 260 million views. That’s a lot of money. It’s also a bit dodgy if you accept the argument that calling results in some areas can influence voters in other areas.

  490. 490
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Fox predicts Chambliss to win GA.

    And all six news groups have called PA for Obama.

  491. 491
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    plus NY and WI

  492. 492
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Arizona too close to call :-D (CNN) …. Obama up to 174 on CNN

  493. 493
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Fox cals Oio for Obama!

  494. 494
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Ahem… Ohio…

  495. 495
    Al
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    In Indiana, only 9% of precincts reporting in Porter County and none in Lake County. That’s Gary, Indiana folks; which went for Obama in a big way in the primary. I see Arizona is “too close to call” from the networks on exit polls.

  496. 496
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    MSNBC confirms that Northern Virginia has not reported.

  497. 497
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    CNN exit poll 20% said race was important to their vote, but they voted the same amount for Obama as those that said it wasn’t

  498. 498
    Zedar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    If the news stations start calling Ohio or Florida for Obama I think its all over folks :)

  499. 499
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Fox cals Oio for Obama!

    wow

  500. 500
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s won, let’s go to sleep.

    Argh it’s only 1.

  501. 501
    Martin B
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Income Tax now looks safe in Massachussetts.

  502. 502
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    It’s been over since Lehman Brothers went bust.

  503. 503
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    ND to McCain, MN and WI to Obama on CNN

  504. 504
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    If you go to the Daily Kos political scoreboard, you can zoom in and look at each county and see how much is reporting. Most of the Virginian counties near DC have barely reported.

  505. 505
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    While election clearly NOT called yet, CNN’s main Republican strategist on the commentary panel says based upon results shown to the moment, we can clearly put the Bradley Effect to bed ………

  506. 506
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Fox gives NM to Obama

  507. 507
    Gusface
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    174-76

    the end is nigh

  508. 508
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    we can clearly put the Bradley Effect to bed

    Everyone with a brain (ie. not the media) put it bed 20 years ago.

  509. 509
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    493

    WHO ……. cool … neat :-D …. that spells it then as NO republ. has ever won without carrying OH and if Fox is calling it before CNN than CNN are being really careful tonight :-D …..

    The Fat Lady is out now …. :) :) :) :) :)

  510. 510
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Will Fox be first to call an Obama win??

  511. 511
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    hahahahaha

  512. 512
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    So we know where that bottle of wine that juliem bought last week went…

  513. 513
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Fox retracted their call of Ohio for Obama.

  514. 514
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    Oz, I didn’t give it to Dario ;-) …..

    I’ve got champagne today … finished the wine over the International Rules footy games over two respective Friday’s ……

  515. 515
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    So Texas hasn’t been called yet… Does that mean exit-polls were close?

  516. 516
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Man this guy really does look like an alien.

  517. 517
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    William, only a matter of time, the NTY map shows Franklin county (which I believe from memory is the county which contains Columbus, Ohio) as breaking for Obama …..

  518. 518
    Zedar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    CNN’s polls for Texas seem to show a 52/48 split in McCain’s favour, which is damn close considering this is Texas we’re talking about :)

  519. 519
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Either way, it hasn’t been a Reagan-style whitewash for Obama.

  520. 520
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    517, should read NYT, sorry

  521. 521
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Still looking good in FL…

  522. 522
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Is it not in the best interests of the networks to keep the suspense so people keep watching? In that regard, CNN is being clever.

  523. 523
    Zedar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Virginia is down to 50/49 also, I notice

  524. 524
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Fox retracted their call of Ohio for Obama

    What the hell are they doing over there…

  525. 525
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Virginia is down to 50/49 also, I notice

    Yep, it looks like it’s going blue. 64% counted

  526. 526
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Harold Ford Jr says the big Democratic counties in Virginia are yet to report.

  527. 527
    Gusface
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    there is movement at mccains campaign

    he wouldn’t concede yet would he?

  528. 528
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    David Palmer for President. Jack Bauer for vice president. :D

  529. 529
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    he wouldn’t concede yet would he?

    Why not, he’s probably tired.

  530. 530
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Fox calls Ohio for Obama, properly this time.

  531. 531
    Zedar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    The voters in North and South Dakota seem to have forgotten which state is supposed to be the close one…

  532. 532
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Why not, he’s probably tired

    It’s a dead give away if he has his slippers on.

  533. 533
    Gusface
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Oz
    thats right its way past his bedtime.

  534. 534
    Diogenes
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Udall wins CO.

  535. 535
    Grant
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    OMG – Check out Viginia on CNN. McCain’s lead down to 18000.

  536. 536
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Is that it? Ohio does it? Or do we still need Florida or something else?

  537. 537
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    FL and VA both tightening.

  538. 538
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    CNN gives West Virginia to McCain.

  539. 539
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    msnbc has just called Ohio for Obama

  540. 540
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    And now intrade and betfair have Obama at 98 and 99% respectively.

  541. 541
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    MSNBC calls Ohio for Obama. Chris Matthews shouts everyone a beer.

  542. 542
    Socrates
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone know much about NC? ABC has Obama up 51/48 with 43% counted (100,000 vote lead). Will the late votes favour repubs?

  543. 543
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    CNN about to call Ohio too I think

  544. 544
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    PLEASE get the country music off of CNN ……. shseeeeesssshhhh ….

    Hank Williams at McCain HQ on the day …

    CNN also reporting a MAJOR projection AFTER their current commerical break ….

  545. 545
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    So, about 75 EC votes to go??

  546. 546
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    And now intrade and betfair have Obama at 98 and 99% respectively.

    How much money would I have to put to actually get a return? $20 million?

  547. 547
    meejay
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    No way back for McCain without Ohio

  548. 548
    ShowsOn
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    CNN also reporting a MAJOR projection AFTER their current commerical break ….

    Florida?

  549. 549
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    I reckon CNN will call it for Obama after the break.

  550. 550
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    If you take MSNBC’s number of 195 for Obama, add 55 in California, 4 in Hawaii, 11 in Washington and 7 in Oregon, you come up with 272. Those four states are the only four Kerry states not to be called already for Obama. It’s almost over.

  551. 551
    wayaway
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Congratulations, President Obama :)

  552. 552
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Florida?

    No chance yet, still too close

  553. 553
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    So who cares about VA and FL then?

    Well played, Obama. But American needed Nader.

  554. 554
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Obama is catching up in VA

  555. 555
    Boerwar
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    MSNBC just called New Mexico for Obama

  556. 556
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    CNN not calling Ohio yet

  557. 557
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Well played, Obama. But American needed Nader.

    or Hillary, blah blah blah

  558. 558
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Ohio – Columbus for Obama
    Cleveland – no reports yet at all and they are heavily African American and 12% of the state population

  559. 559
    Generic Person
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    SNIP: Overheated comment deleted – The Management.

  560. 560
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    or Hillary, blah blah blah

    No, Nader. It was a joke man, relax.

  561. 561
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    won’t be OH not yet, they mentioned a bit about the various big cities and counties per my post a few numbers ago, but no projections … don’t know what they were going on about ?????

  562. 562
    Gusface
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    mccain about to front the press

  563. 563
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    CNN just called Ohio for Obama.

  564. 564
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    CNN just called Ohio for Obama

  565. 565
    juliem
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    HEre they go …. and it is, NOW OHIO …… :) …… CNN, Ohio for the Dems ….

  566. 566
    Dario
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    lol an exact copy! :)

  567. 567
    Oz
    Posted Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    HAH, I win.