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	<title>Comments on: Victorian council elections: November 29</title>
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		<title>By: democracy@work</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220924</link>
		<dc:creator>democracy@work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vexnews.com/news/tag/vec/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VEXNEWS&lt;/a&gt; has published a welcomed series of exposes on the secret conduct of elections in Victoria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.vexnews.com/news/tag/vec/" rel="nofollow">VEXNEWS</a> has published a welcomed series of exposes on the secret conduct of elections in Victoria.</p>
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		<title>By: Greensborough Growler</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220501</link>
		<dc:creator>Greensborough Growler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who believe in renewal,

http://diamond-valley-leader.whereilive.com.au:80/news/story/road-rage-councillor-in-shock-banyule-council-election-loss/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who believe in renewal,</p>
<p><a href="http://diamond-valley-leader.whereilive.com.au:80/news/story/road-rage-councillor-in-shock-banyule-council-election-loss/" rel="nofollow">http://diamond-valley-leader.whereilive.com.au:80/news/story/road-rage-councillor-in-shock-banyule-council-election-loss/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Church</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220414</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just a hobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just a hobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220374</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caroline Church, I am in awe of your knowledge of local politics. Is this your job? Or just a hobby?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caroline Church, I am in awe of your knowledge of local politics. Is this your job? Or just a hobby?</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Church</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220372</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Gibbins, former Liberal candidate for the federal seat of Bendigo against Steve Gibbons, will be the new Mayor of Greater Bendigo when they are all sworn in tonight. The elected councillors met privately and voted for Gibbins. There is a clear majority for the conservatives on the Greater Bendigo council. Local members who previously served as Local Government Ministers are responsible for this. This includes Candy Broad, who introduced representation reviews that resulted in single councillor wards, with the support of former local Liberal member Daryl McClure. McClure knew what he was doing. Rod Fyffe, who is Labor leaning, who backed McClure on this, did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Gibbins, former Liberal candidate for the federal seat of Bendigo against Steve Gibbons, will be the new Mayor of Greater Bendigo when they are all sworn in tonight. The elected councillors met privately and voted for Gibbins. There is a clear majority for the conservatives on the Greater Bendigo council. Local members who previously served as Local Government Ministers are responsible for this. This includes Candy Broad, who introduced representation reviews that resulted in single councillor wards, with the support of former local Liberal member Daryl McClure. McClure knew what he was doing. Rod Fyffe, who is Labor leaning, who backed McClure on this, did not.</p>
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		<title>By: democracy@work</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220218</link>
		<dc:creator>democracy@work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oz the staff rule the roost at the City Council.  Doyle is in for a shock, It is not Melbourne health more like an accident zone of anrachy at the morgue.  It is design-a-job back at Town Hall,. If they find something a bit tiresome senior managers rewrite their job breifs and appoint someone else to do the task they were hired to do. hundreds of thousands of dollars wasted in renaming the departments to reflect the new job desciptions they have created.  They will not let him do anything they do not want. Doyle has already stated that he will not foresake the Limo and driver and there is no mention of the Limo that Susan Riley accomodered for herself. 100% oaid for by the ratepayer and her job is part time. You can expect she will be quick to take junkets and pretend she is embassadore at large travelling abroad at a cost of more then $2,000 a day.  Not tofogett Doyle&#039;s CarlJetter and his $1700 local travel bill per quater.  Doyle says no Junkets but we all know that willfallby the wayside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oz the staff rule the roost at the City Council.  Doyle is in for a shock, It is not Melbourne health more like an accident zone of anrachy at the morgue.  It is design-a-job back at Town Hall,. If they find something a bit tiresome senior managers rewrite their job breifs and appoint someone else to do the task they were hired to do. hundreds of thousands of dollars wasted in renaming the departments to reflect the new job desciptions they have created.  They will not let him do anything they do not want. Doyle has already stated that he will not foresake the Limo and driver and there is no mention of the Limo that Susan Riley accomodered for herself. 100% oaid for by the ratepayer and her job is part time. You can expect she will be quick to take junkets and pretend she is embassadore at large travelling abroad at a cost of more then $2,000 a day.  Not tofogett Doyle&#8217;s CarlJetter and his $1700 local travel bill per quater.  Doyle says no Junkets but we all know that willfallby the wayside.</p>
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		<title>By: democracy@work</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220215</link>
		<dc:creator>democracy@work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom all boundaries are arbitrary to a large extent. My suggestion is to include the Current city of Port Phillip, City of Melbourne, City of Yarra and the old City of Prahran.  Sure there may be merit in hying off say parts of Elwood or East St Kilda and maybe other sections.  But I think it is fair to day that Prahran has more in common with Melbourne then Malvern and the same with Albert Park, Port Melbourne and Central St Kilda.  A Greater Melbourne would deliver a better outcome. Its a shame that Dick Gross lost his seat and with it the presidency of the MAV. The St Kilda triangle bumped him off.  I also like Tim Lawrence, think he is a good local member. Have known him for many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom all boundaries are arbitrary to a large extent. My suggestion is to include the Current city of Port Phillip, City of Melbourne, City of Yarra and the old City of Prahran.  Sure there may be merit in hying off say parts of Elwood or East St Kilda and maybe other sections.  But I think it is fair to day that Prahran has more in common with Melbourne then Malvern and the same with Albert Park, Port Melbourne and Central St Kilda.  A Greater Melbourne would deliver a better outcome. Its a shame that Dick Gross lost his seat and with it the presidency of the MAV. The St Kilda triangle bumped him off.  I also like Tim Lawrence, think he is a good local member. Have known him for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220197</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[TWO days before he is sworn in as Melbourne’s next lord mayor, Robert Doyle’s key election promise is in tatters. Most Melbourne City councillors have told The Age they will not support Mr Doyle’s pledge to reopen Swanston Street to cars.]

http://www.theage.com.au/national/new-mayor-driving-down-a-wrongway-street-20081201-6otz.html

So begins the lame-duck Mayoralty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>TWO days before he is sworn in as Melbourne’s next lord mayor, Robert Doyle’s key election promise is in tatters. Most Melbourne City councillors have told The Age they will not support Mr Doyle’s pledge to reopen Swanston Street to cars.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/national/new-mayor-driving-down-a-wrongway-street-20081201-6otz.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/national/new-mayor-driving-down-a-wrongway-street-20081201-6otz.html</a></p>
<p>So begins the lame-duck Mayoralty.</p>
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		<title>By: democracy@work</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220192</link>
		<dc:creator>democracy@work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you can see there was 1034  Donkey votes. By comarioson there was 172 reverse Donkey votes.  But the inverse Donkey vote is far the greatest value.  This is where a voter preferences their first second or third choice and then preference down the ticket filling in the blanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you can see there was 1034  Donkey votes. By comarioson there was 172 reverse Donkey votes.  But the inverse Donkey vote is far the greatest value.  This is where a voter preferences their first second or third choice and then preference down the ticket filling in the blanks.</p>
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		<title>By: democracy@work</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/11/15/victorian-council-elections-november-29/comment-page-8/#comment-220190</link>
		<dc:creator>democracy@work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doyle&#039;s Primary Voting Pattern 10 votes or more (Fixed record length preference vote) 

This shows the extent of the dokey vote (Inverse and Nominative)

Vote	Papers
0103091108060502071004	6862
0102030405060708091011	1034
0102091108060503071004	68
0111100908070605040302	55
0111020304050607080910	48
0103040506070802091011	32
0103091108060504071002	28
0103040506070809101102	24
0111081007050402060903	23
0103040502060708091011	22
0104091108060502071003	21
0103091108060507021004	20
0103040205060708091011	19
0103020405060708091011	19
0111100908070605040203	17
0103050709111008060402	17
0103110908060502071004	16
0102030411050607080910	16
0104091108060503071002	15
0107020803090410051106	15
0110091108060502070304	14
0111090308060502071004	13
0102040305060708091011	13
0111021003090408050706	13
0103090208060511071004	12
0102111009080706050403	11
0103080509101102060407	10
0103091008060502071104	10
0103090811060502071004	10
0103091108060510070204	10
0102030405060711080910	10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doyle&#8217;s Primary Voting Pattern 10 votes or more (Fixed record length preference vote) </p>
<p>This shows the extent of the dokey vote (Inverse and Nominative)</p>
<p>Vote	Papers<br />
0103091108060502071004	6862<br />
0102030405060708091011	1034<br />
0102091108060503071004	68<br />
0111100908070605040302	55<br />
0111020304050607080910	48<br />
0103040506070802091011	32<br />
0103091108060504071002	28<br />
0103040506070809101102	24<br />
0111081007050402060903	23<br />
0103040502060708091011	22<br />
0104091108060502071003	21<br />
0103091108060507021004	20<br />
0103040205060708091011	19<br />
0103020405060708091011	19<br />
0111100908070605040203	17<br />
0103050709111008060402	17<br />
0103110908060502071004	16<br />
0102030411050607080910	16<br />
0104091108060503071002	15<br />
0107020803090410051106	15<br />
0110091108060502070304	14<br />
0111090308060502071004	13<br />
0102040305060708091011	13<br />
0111021003090408050706	13<br />
0103090208060511071004	12<br />
0102111009080706050403	11<br />
0103080509101102060407	10<br />
0103091008060502071104	10<br />
0103090811060502071004	10<br />
0103091108060510070204	10<br />
0102030405060711080910	10</p>
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