Perhaps to mark the first anniversary of the Rudd government, The Australian has come good a day early with the latest Newspoll. It finds Labor’s two-party lead steady on 55-45, from primary votes of 42 per cent for Labor (down two) and 38 per cent for the Coalition (steady). The Prime Minister’s personal ratings are his best since early May: his approval is up two points to 67 per cent, while his disapproval is down one point to 20 per cent. Rudd’s lead over Malcolm Turnbull as preferred prime minister is up two points to 42 per cent. However, 56 per cent of respondents said they would be “concerned” if the budget went into deficit.
UPDATE: Graphic here.
UPDATE 2: Essential Research has Labor’s lead at 56-44, up from 55-45 last week. Also included are leadership approval and preferred prime minister ratings and, interestingly, retrospective evaluation of John Howard, whose prime ministership is rated above average by 47 per cent of respondents and below average by 24 per cent.
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I admit that “rat” might present me with a challenge in certain contexts. I’ll see how I feel when it happens. You are of course allowed to refer to the fact of Brandis having called Howard a lying rodent (does it have the status of “fact”?), but you’re not allowed to exploit it to dodge the rule. “Krudd” is not allowed.
The comment will be snipped, and life will carry on as before.
We’ll call it the “Brandis Manifesto”.
I reckon name calling christened by Paul Keating should be allowed.
Cuppa @ 193 -
I read the 12,000 figure (actually 6,000/week) during the recent Kiwi election campaign, so assume it’s recent and therefore probably already reflects the current NZ economic woes. I believe they get much more on the dole here than back home.
Fulvio Sammut @ 195 –
Carrier of the Black Plague
Isn’t he the bloke who used to follow the Usher of the Black Rod on occasion?
The plague affects different body parts in different people, Mayo.
Frank, that looks really stupid. Who would bother? And Centre, I’m going to have to go to bed, because if I actually really thought about what you could do with the money Howard wasted, I’d, I’d, I’d just be flabbergasted. No, really depressed.
No 145
Howard had massive support in the community by stemming the accelerating inflow of illegal entrants. Did you not see that phone poll where 90% of the 122,000 people polled supported the turning around of the Tampa? I think poll bludgers are the ones who are out of touch.
No 142
How was the GST “on the run” policy? Costello worked on it for 12 months, only to have Meg Lees remove fresh food, thereby making the tax much more complex to administer.
I’m not really sure how much money Howard wasted, I was going on Jovialmonk’s figure. But I’m sure we would be in a stronger position had Rudd been PM from 96 onwards and that goes for the whole world if Obama had been pres since 2000.
No 202
If Lib supporters can’t use Krudd, communists should not be able to use rodent. Even if Brandis said it, it is simply beneath us all to use these childish names.
No 210
Centre, your inability to admit anything good that Howard did is pure ignorance.
William@ 203. You make me laugh. Your mother should be proud of you. And again, some things you post here don’t get sufficient exploration. I still reckon that move in who reckons who is best able to deal with the most important issues graph is the one to watch.
GP if the GST was such a good policy why don’t the liberals increase it to 20% as further tax reform?
GP
Are you making this up?
A phone poll of 122,000?
No 215
Rewatch the Howard Years Part II on the ABC website and it showed news footage of a phone poll which attracted 122,000 respondents.
GP, feline staple saved the best for last one year ago today.
No 214
Centre, I’m guessing you prefer the litany of inefficient stupid state taxes that the GST replaced.
William can you please unlock my moderated post @211?
Just watching the Coward Years here in w.a. Was interesting how its showed up his essentialy completely incompetent handling of the East Timor issue. Its well known that Howard wanted US support before he would move. Apparently, according to this program the issue was that the US would not commit ground troops, which makes sense considering that is was also Clintons attitude in regard to Kosovo.
But the breakthrough was apparently when Howard met Clinton in NZ and said that he didnt want immediate ground troops, just intel, and “distant” backing, which Clinton immediatley gave.
So, if Howard had been clear withh the Americans on the suppport that Australia wanted in order to lead the UN forces 3 or so weeks before, we would have been in their , and maybe a load of people who died, wouldnt have. I hated Howard at the time for the way he handled this, and this program just reminds me why Australia is so much better off without this little man. Tampa, Kiddies Overboard, just more signposts to how bad the Coalition were.
GP, i dont mind talking about the good things Howard did in his tenure–now lets see, hmmm, just a moment, let me think for a moment, ahhh, i’ll come up with something shortly, oh dear, wait a tic i’ve got it–no that was Keating, be patient GP i’ll get back to you eventually.
Generic Person, wee stalwart from the LP side of politics, do you have any explanation as to why your great new leader, Mr. Malcolm Turnbull, is doing so badly in the polls?
No 220
imacca what rubbish. He did not mishandle anything given that his international reputation increased markedly after the whole affair. He even got appropriate UN backing – what more do you people want?
HSO, he doesn’t have the economic credentials of Swan, Tanner and the only man with a masters in economics in parliament, Emerson. Turnbull was a Liberal barrister who worked with a bank for a short time.
Like so many seriuos issues , “boat people” matter got reduced to Media one liners for th ‘left” and “right” gouge on in both politcal and humanitarian sensotional headlines
Actualy there were many layers to both , and public did NOT like Labors non solution at all , so despite Labor should hav won/made 2001 electon reel close as Howard’s glaze had waned aboit , Howard reflected publ;ics concern about security of our shores ….and ignored th reel or perceived nasty edges to it
That issue decided 2001 electon reely , and ar we saying public got overall view so wrong , do not tink so
222
And then he lost his seat. (SNIP: Test failed – The Management). (just testing)
222 “what more do you people want?”
GP an apology for twelve wasted years!
GP, surely the liberals could find more inefficient stupid taxes that they could replace with a further 10% GST. Or are you saying that there is no need for further tax reform?
If you believe there is the need for further tax reform, and the GST is such a great tax, why don’t the liberals increase the rate of the GST?
Ugh, the moderation system on these blogs is annoying because it throws the numbering system for posts out of whack if one post happens to get caught in the filter.
GP
Except that the policy was not aimed at illegal entrants, who continued to fly in on tourist visas in significant numbers.
It was aimed at a small number of refugees, who, by definition, can’t be illegal.
So Howard’s support was predicated on lies and misinformation, as usual.
(William, I’m trying to be good, but spell checker wants to change ‘Howard’s’ to “Coward’s’. Am I allowed to accidentally press ‘change’?
No 228
Who said increasing the GST was a good policy? Your arguing with a strawman and dodging my questions to suit you. Your mindless hackery really isn’t worth any more of my attention.
No 230
Illegal entrants was my (incorrectly used) term not Howard’s, so blame me for my error and stop casting ridiculous aspersions as to Howard’s integrity. I’d also note that they are not refugees until they set foot on Australian territory.
The facts are that boat people from Indonesia were making their way to Australian waters in alarmingly high numbers, thus effectively being queue-jumpers, and the majority of Australians rightly opposed their entry.
steve, just once,I’d like the MSM to expose the lie at the centre of that stupid mantra of the Libs. being better economic managers. That’s never going to happen. Garbage reporting. Pollbludgers, Pollytics, Political Sword, Larvatus Prodeo, and all the Economics blogs, are best places to know what’s going on.
228 & 230. Something very appropriate happened as a result of the moderation process. GP stopped arguing with himself!
“Who said increasing the GST was a good policy?”
I am trying to find something worthwhile Howard did?
I thought that was the centrepiece of the Howard legacy?
Do you think he’s o.K.? Generic Person, Are you O.K.?
LOL! An unscientific, un-sampled and unweighted PHONE poll! You got us there.
Ah! I see! So your policy is if you don’t let people come here, they can’t be refugees, so you don’t have any humanitarian concerns! Cat, Bag, Out.
GP, Australia could have led the UN troops into East Timor weeks earlier. Since UN compounds were being violently overrun at the time i dont think that UN backing was an issue. At the time the talk was all about getting American support and tonights program makes the case that it was Howard and Downers stuff up in not clearly articulating Australias position that delayed that. The delay cost lives.
What happened with his “international reputation” afterward is irrelevant to the statement i made previously, particularly given the natural tendancy for everyone to be trying to put the best face on things after the intervention to facilitate the moving on that was so desperatley needed at the time.
I acknowledge that it was a good thing for Howard to start the process rolling. It was unfortunate that Habibi was such a nutter and moved things on much faster than anyone thought he would. Once that happened it seems that Howard was well out of his depth, and Downer was simply his messenger boy.
SNIP: Dummy-spit deleted – The Management.
Don’t like it when people go silent. G.P.. Spark up, or we shall begin ignoring you like the Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition,the Member for Wentworth.
For anyone interested, ABC is playing a wonderful Jean Renoir film at 1:15 AM early Wednesday morning. It is called “This Land is Mine” and concerns a school teacher trying to do what he can to resist the Nazi occupation. It is of course a Hollywood propaganda film, but it is really interestingly made.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036431/
No 238
imacca, Howard’s foreign experience was indeed nascent by his own admission, but you’re applying a double standard. He went through all the right procedures and even gained the support for the UN. This was not the same with the Iraq invasion and yet you’ll criticise him endlessly for that.
I know the lack of reasoned content in this post, while also noting that it is ironic you’d post it.
If you don’t want to participate here, go do something else.
But, Generic Person, if we’re brain dead, why are we still capable of arguing? You resort to this sort of name calling when you can’t mount an argument. It’s as simple as that,
SNIP: Sequel to dummy-spit deleted – The Management.
An unscientific, un-sampled and unweighted PHONE poll of 122,000 (90% opposing th boat people unrestricted entry)
2001 electon was decided on boat people issue Voters supported Howard to win so that is pnly poll that counts
Labor failed ( and posters here still ignore) th queston , would one continue to accept th boat people coming here in whatever numbers and be accepted here as refugeees
…and if not , th solution ?….as opposed to howard’s deterant of entry and bribing th indonesians
(US went though that exercise on Mexican border , atarted with a trckle , US built a fence but there ar NOW 12 million yes 12 million illegal “refugees”…and increasing by th day)
Tink question may be how it was done , and with what social etc compensation
We are ignorant brain dead people!
You know you are winning when they start calling you names.
William, are you doing it on purpose?
Generic Person , you’re not capable of counting. Silly cloth eared bint.
Sorry GP, but i’m not going to get drawn into an Iraq discussion. I suppose you’ll be pleased though that Kevin Rudd is now PM? I mean, he’s popular at home, lots of diplomatic experience. Crisis happens and he shows that he can respond without demonising anyone (except overpaid CEO’s and they deservve it!!).
For someone of whom it was said that they were elected because of their similarities to Howard, he’s really quite different in some positive ways.
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