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	<title>Comments on: Essential Research: 58-42</title>
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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-15/#comment-220627</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/04/super-size-me/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New thread&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/04/super-size-me/" rel="nofollow">New thread</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dario</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-15/#comment-220625</link>
		<dc:creator>Dario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[so what should Heffernan do in this case?]

Slit his wrists preferably</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>so what should Heffernan do in this case?</p></blockquote>
<p>Slit his wrists preferably</p>
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		<title>By: Judith Barnes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-15/#comment-220624</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ive been away for a few days and boy have i got a lot of catching up to do!

correct me if i&#039;m wrong but didnt a labor pollie have to resign from the shadow ministry for writing a reference for a shady charactor-- and that was before he becane shady, it was when he was still respectable, so what should Heffernan do in this case?

http://abc.com.au/news/stories/2008/12/04/2437985.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ive been away for a few days and boy have i got a lot of catching up to do!</p>
<p>correct me if i&#8217;m wrong but didnt a labor pollie have to resign from the shadow ministry for writing a reference for a shady charactor&#8211; and that was before he becane shady, it was when he was still respectable, so what should Heffernan do in this case?</p>
<p><a href="http://abc.com.au/news/stories/2008/12/04/2437985.htm" rel="nofollow">http://abc.com.au/news/stories/2008/12/04/2437985.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dario</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-15/#comment-220622</link>
		<dc:creator>Dario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roxon announcing in the house that Customs have tested the &#039;Malternatives&#039; that the liquor industry have tried to get around the alcopops tax don&#039;t match the chemical composition of beer so they will still be taxed as spirits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roxon announcing in the house that Customs have tested the &#8216;Malternatives&#8217; that the liquor industry have tried to get around the alcopops tax don&#8217;t match the chemical composition of beer so they will still be taxed as spirits</p>
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		<title>By: Dario</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-15/#comment-220621</link>
		<dc:creator>Dario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FF &amp; Mr X at it again...

http://news.smh.com.au/national/showdown-looming-on-broadband-funding-20081204-6rap.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FF &amp; Mr X at it again&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.smh.com.au/national/showdown-looming-on-broadband-funding-20081204-6rap.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.smh.com.au/national/showdown-looming-on-broadband-funding-20081204-6rap.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Socrates</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-15/#comment-220620</link>
		<dc:creator>Socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>London also has one central body (London Transport) that distributes the revenue and runs the zoning and ticketing system.  That makes it work.  They have moved to that approach in SEQ now and presto! - integrated ticket zones have been introduced.

If you really want to see good integrated transpor systems the best ones are not in the english speaking world - go to Munich, Vienna, Helsinki, Strassbourg, Singapore, or Hong Kong to name a few.  There are more modern (and cheaper) options than Oyster card out now too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>London also has one central body (London Transport) that distributes the revenue and runs the zoning and ticketing system.  That makes it work.  They have moved to that approach in SEQ now and presto! &#8211; integrated ticket zones have been introduced.</p>
<p>If you really want to see good integrated transpor systems the best ones are not in the english speaking world &#8211; go to Munich, Vienna, Helsinki, Strassbourg, Singapore, or Hong Kong to name a few.  There are more modern (and cheaper) options than Oyster card out now too).</p>
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		<title>By: Socrates</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-14/#comment-220619</link>
		<dc:creator>Socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antony 692 - well said!

They could get integrated ticketing if they agreed to simplify the system but that means either making some people worse off or giving up some marginal revenue.  Its silly really, because if they did it the extra passengers would probably make up for any revenue loss.  But thats NSW financial management for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antony 692 &#8211; well said!</p>
<p>They could get integrated ticketing if they agreed to simplify the system but that means either making some people worse off or giving up some marginal revenue.  Its silly really, because if they did it the extra passengers would probably make up for any revenue loss.  But thats NSW financial management for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Swing Lowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-14/#comment-220616</link>
		<dc:creator>Swing Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The advantage of the Oyster Card is that there are flat rates for any bus trips (1 pound each) regardless of distance, as well as a system of 10 zones (with 6 main ones and 4 that go into Hertfordshire) for the tube. In Sydney, there is still distance-based pricing for rail and distance-based pricing for buses. Also, there are no private buses in London - while there are heaps in Sydney.

All in all - Sydney needs to sort out its ticketing system first before it can think about a T-card system...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advantage of the Oyster Card is that there are flat rates for any bus trips (1 pound each) regardless of distance, as well as a system of 10 zones (with 6 main ones and 4 that go into Hertfordshire) for the tube. In Sydney, there is still distance-based pricing for rail and distance-based pricing for buses. Also, there are no private buses in London &#8211; while there are heaps in Sydney.</p>
<p>All in all &#8211; Sydney needs to sort out its ticketing system first before it can think about a T-card system&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Antony GREEN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-14/#comment-220615</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony GREEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen, all other state unchanged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen, all other state unchanged.</p>
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		<title>By: Antony GREEN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/01/essential-research-58-42-3/comment-page-14/#comment-220614</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony GREEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen - London has a zonal system, that&#039;s how you make it work. Sydney has point to point tickets. In London you can by a daily zonal ticket, in Sydney you can&#039;t. In London, all bus fares are the same wherever you are going, but most people have daily, weeklies or quarterlies. You can implement that sort of system, but you first have to simplify the ticketing.

Melbourne&#039;s a cinch. You buy a half day or full day ticket and hop on and off to your hearts content. Not in Sydney. It&#039;s a weekly, or travel tens which you have to use on every trip, or you buy a fare each time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen &#8211; London has a zonal system, that&#8217;s how you make it work. Sydney has point to point tickets. In London you can by a daily zonal ticket, in Sydney you can&#8217;t. In London, all bus fares are the same wherever you are going, but most people have daily, weeklies or quarterlies. You can implement that sort of system, but you first have to simplify the ticketing.</p>
<p>Melbourne&#8217;s a cinch. You buy a half day or full day ticket and hop on and off to your hearts content. Not in Sydney. It&#8217;s a weekly, or travel tens which you have to use on every trip, or you buy a fare each time.</p>
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