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	<title>Comments on: Essential Research: 58-42</title>
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	<description>Reflections on the Miracle of Democracy at Work in the Greatest Nation on Earth</description>
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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/15/essential-research-58-42-4/comment-page-25/#comment-225549</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/19/how-green-was-my-paper/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New thread&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/19/how-green-was-my-paper/" rel="nofollow">New thread</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Boerwar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/15/essential-research-58-42-4/comment-page-25/#comment-225547</link>
		<dc:creator>Boerwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piping Shrike, at various posts.

You have brought a refreshing approach to this blog - the idea of Rudd following the majority of people who voted him because he recognised that climate change was the elephant in the room and said he was prepared to do something decisive about it. He doesn&#039;t need to lead on this. He just needs to follow effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piping Shrike, at various posts.</p>
<p>You have brought a refreshing approach to this blog &#8211; the idea of Rudd following the majority of people who voted him because he recognised that climate change was the elephant in the room and said he was prepared to do something decisive about it. He doesn&#8217;t need to lead on this. He just needs to follow effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Boerwar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/15/essential-research-58-42-4/comment-page-25/#comment-225546</link>
		<dc:creator>Boerwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those counting on the europeans to anything sensible, think again. The 20% in real terms is very likely to end up being something like 4% - 7%. The rest will be smoke and mirrors.
Strap yourselves in folks. We are in for a wild ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those counting on the europeans to anything sensible, think again. The 20% in real terms is very likely to end up being something like 4% &#8211; 7%. The rest will be smoke and mirrors.<br />
Strap yourselves in folks. We are in for a wild ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Boerwar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/15/essential-research-58-42-4/comment-page-25/#comment-225545</link>
		<dc:creator>Boerwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, have yet to see a straight answer from any of the Ruddstars here on what
(a) the MDB disaster means
(2) what the forestry disaster in BC means
(3) what the Arctic Summer Minimum Sea Ice Extent means and,
(4) what the couple of hundred million people who are dependent for their livelihoods on glacier summer melt water are going to be doing for a living by 2030.

I acknowledge that I have noted plenty of: &#039;Don&#039;t worry, be happy, we have an ETS&#039;, but it does not address my issues. *pauses to grin hugely at the disjunct between the &#039;practical&#039; realities*

Too hard, I suppose. It is far easier to just to get into the safe confines of the party political vacuum flask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, have yet to see a straight answer from any of the Ruddstars here on what<br />
(a) the MDB disaster means<br />
(2) what the forestry disaster in BC means<br />
(3) what the Arctic Summer Minimum Sea Ice Extent means and,<br />
(4) what the couple of hundred million people who are dependent for their livelihoods on glacier summer melt water are going to be doing for a living by 2030.</p>
<p>I acknowledge that I have noted plenty of: &#8216;Don&#8217;t worry, be happy, we have an ETS&#8217;, but it does not address my issues. *pauses to grin hugely at the disjunct between the &#8216;practical&#8217; realities*</p>
<p>Too hard, I suppose. It is far easier to just to get into the safe confines of the party political vacuum flask.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/15/essential-research-58-42-4/comment-page-25/#comment-225540</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction:  and on nuke power debate that I’ve NOT comented on tonite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:  and on nuke power debate that I’ve NOT comented on tonite</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/15/essential-research-58-42-4/comment-page-25/#comment-225539</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and on nuke power debate that I&#039;ve comented on tonite , its proven safe energey alternative in many countrys as I&#039;ve mentioned previously , however I wouldn&#039;t suport these fission nuke plants in oz because I wouldn&#039;t trust a future Lib Govt building nuclear weapons using a false pretext With R E instead of nuke power plants th Libs  can&#039;t ever make nuclear weapons and there&#039;s no waste left for future genrrations Alos as previously said th sun is free and is always around</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and on nuke power debate that I&#8217;ve comented on tonite , its proven safe energey alternative in many countrys as I&#8217;ve mentioned previously , however I wouldn&#8217;t suport these fission nuke plants in oz because I wouldn&#8217;t trust a future Lib Govt building nuclear weapons using a false pretext With R E instead of nuke power plants th Libs  can&#8217;t ever make nuclear weapons and there&#8217;s no waste left for future genrrations Alos as previously said th sun is free and is always around</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/15/essential-research-58-42-4/comment-page-25/#comment-225535</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If 2010 electon is held say end aug 2010 when initial ETS efect from July ist 2010 start coming , and Coppenhaggen late 2009 does not fully agree which is possible , then potentialy Rudd may face 2010 electon with USA/China  etc having agreed to nothing and having sacrificed nothing  ...and with rudd with his 5% ETS costs apparent , with Libs scaring th full ETS flow on costs hav not yet all hit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If 2010 electon is held say end aug 2010 when initial ETS efect from July ist 2010 start coming , and Coppenhaggen late 2009 does not fully agree which is possible , then potentialy Rudd may face 2010 electon with USA/China  etc having agreed to nothing and having sacrificed nothing  &#8230;and with rudd with his 5% ETS costs apparent , with Libs scaring th full ETS flow on costs hav not yet all hit</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>corrction...left &#039;potential&#039; out as that is what Lib scare campaign would be built on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>corrction&#8230;left &#8216;potential&#8217; out as that is what Lib scare campaign would be built on</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/15/essential-research-58-42-4/comment-page-24/#comment-225533</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With 24/7 news  and internet access th public realize anyting we do on CC will make no diference They therefore know USA for one is doing nothing , and they realize until USA  &amp; others actualy start doing someting then th feel good bit of paying to feel god without reely helping CC would imagine is a low $ tolerance

a Greens target would exceed that $ tolerance feel good emotion whilst public saw CC in other countrys is not being addressed Ultimately as th massive dire econamic costs of that 25% hit th econamy , and th $ price of that feel good consequentialy increased further with higher prices and higher unemployemnt whilst internet news showed little CC action elsewhere on planet was beig done then thats how you be come a one term govt for being econamicaly irresponsible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With 24/7 news  and internet access th public realize anyting we do on CC will make no diference They therefore know USA for one is doing nothing , and they realize until USA  &amp; others actualy start doing someting then th feel good bit of paying to feel god without reely helping CC would imagine is a low $ tolerance</p>
<p>a Greens target would exceed that $ tolerance feel good emotion whilst public saw CC in other countrys is not being addressed Ultimately as th massive dire econamic costs of that 25% hit th econamy , and th $ price of that feel good consequentialy increased further with higher prices and higher unemployemnt whilst internet news showed little CC action elsewhere on planet was beig done then thats how you be come a one term govt for being econamicaly irresponsible</p>
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		<title>By: zombie mao</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2008/12/15/essential-research-58-42-4/comment-page-24/#comment-225530</link>
		<dc:creator>zombie mao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so to sum up showson:

DON&#039;T PANIC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so to sum up showson:</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T PANIC!</p>
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