Light holiday reading:
• “Carlton’s lone classical liberal”, Andrew Norton, weighs in on Liberal hyperbole over third party political campaigns. New Mayo MP Jamie Briggs reckons these to be a “cancer in our democracy” due to the efforts of GetUp! and the ACTU at the last election. Briggs argues that “Australians are entitled to know who is behind the campaigns, how much is being spent and where the money is coming from”, evidently having failed to notice that such groups are indeed required to provide annual disclosure of receipts, expenditure and debts. However, in an interesting discussion at Larvatus Prodeo, Norton also argues that lowering the donation disclosure threshold from $10,000 to $1000 (as proposed by a bill currently before a Senate committee due to report on June 30) could theoretically catch independent political blogs in a “massive compliance net” thanks to a loose definition of “persons or organisations expressing views by any means on candidates or election issues”. Elsewhere, The Australian’s Janet Albrechtsen tugs at the heart strings by complaining the disclosure amendments are designed to cut donations to the Liberal Party (from which you can readily infer why the Howard government used its Senate majority to jack the threshold up from $1500 to $10,000 in the first place). More substantially, she argues that “the nature of third-party campaigns in Australia is such that if we ban or cap donations (except by individuals) and allow third-party campaigns by unions to continue unabated, the political field is skewed against one side: the conservatives” – particularly in light of government plans to scrap tax deductibility of party donations while maintaining it for union dues and levies.
• “Dotcom millionaire” Evan Thornley has made himself popular in Labor circles by pulling the plug on his political career on the eve of his anticipated promotion to the Victorian state cabinet. The talk around Thornley was that he viewed his state political career as a stepping stone to federal politics via Simon Crean’s seat of Hotham, beyond which his ambitions were apparently without limit. His entirely unheralded decision to “pursue opportunities outside of political life” has inevitably fuelled all manner of speculation, most of it involving his financial wellbeing. It has also created a vacancy for his upper house seat for the Southern Metropolitan region. The Age reports that the new upper house system instituted at the last election “has created an anomaly for Labor, as party rules do not specify how preselection for an upper house vacancy should be conducted”:
Party sources said the anomoly was expected to be tackled by rule makers in May 2009 before preselections began in earnest for the 2010 election. But Mr Thornley’s shock departure – which sources from both major factions of Victorian Labor described as the most bizarre incident they had ever witnessed in politics – could force the anomaly to be dealt with sooner. While some within Labor believe the rules offer no guidance over preselection, others say the spirit of preselection processes in the lower house should also be adopted for the upper house. Under that scenario, Mr Thornley’s replacement in the Southern Metropolitan electorate would be decided 50:50 by a ballot of ALP branch members and a central selection panel. Many expect Labor’s national executive to ultimately choose his replacement but all agreed it was too early to speculate on the names of likely candidates.
A commenter at Andrew Landeryou’s VexNews writes:
The Left were promised Thornley’s spot but they agreed not to insist as Thornley was then non aligned. Thornley then joined Labor Unity. They left will claim they are entitled to fill Thornley’s vacancy. Labor Unity will most likely want it and there will be an internal facional brawl like Kororoit. Then Mr Dearricott’s non-aligned group will claim their right to the vacancy. A strong tip tonight is that (former Brimbank mayor) Natalie Suleyman is a favourite for the position.
Another hopeful is said to be Dick Gross, former Municipal Association of Victoria president and Port Phillip councillor defeated in recent elections in a “resident revolt over his support for the St Kilda triangle development”. There is also the question of the political future of Theo Theophanous, charged on Christmas Eve with rape. An end to Theophanous’s political career would create another upper house vacancy in Northern Metropolitan. In lieu of Evan Thornley, Theophanous’s position as Industry and Trade Minister has been filled by Martin Pakula, previously best known for his failed preselection bid against Simon Crean in Hotham ahead of the last federal election.
• Michelle Grattan of The Age reports that the Victorian Liberals are “set to reluctantly give the Nationals the number two spot on a joint Senate ticket for the 2010 election”. This would continue an agreement initiated after the 1987 double dissolution election giving the Nationals the unwinnable fourth and safe second seats at alternating elections. The party’s seat in the Senate has been held since 1993 by Julian McGauran, who quit the party for the Liberals in January 2006. One possible explanation for the move was that he did not expect the Liberals would continue with the existing joint ticket arrangement, which as Grattan explains is widely opposed within the party. It had long been thought that the Nationals had been able to negotiate the joint ticket partly because the McGauran family helped delivered it preferences from the Democratic Labor Party, whom they had assisted in legal action to prevent its deregistration. The Nationals’ apparent success in keeping the arrangement going might suggest otherwise. However, another possibility is that McGauran thought his prospects of winning Liberal preselection less unlikely than those of keeping his place with the Nationals. McGauran had an uncomfortably narrow preselection win ahead of the 2004 election over Darren Chester, now the member for Gippsland, and his family’s clout might have been further weakened since by brother Peter’s departure from politics.
• Labor’s Mark Dreyfus, chairman of the House of Representatives Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee, says he hopes the government will “soon” announce a non-binding plebiscite to test opinion on a republic before the federal election.
• Robert Taylor of The West Australian has an interesting overview of the new entrants to the WA state parliament.
UPDATE (3/1/09): Malcolm Mackerras reviews the Queensland state redistribution and offers his prediction for the election to be held some time this year, namely an 11 seat Labor majority from an even split on two-party preferred.
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448 “I hate to say it again, but the tarnishing is already much worse than that Ron:”
well genuine thanks Socrates …..FINNS depressed me but you’ve made me feeling much better now
Briefly
Thank you for your considered response.
There are two ‘It is too late’ groups. The first believes that it is all over bar the shouting and that it is alread too late, period. Game over. I know some of the folk in this group. Some of them are your normal, thoughtful persons, some are scientists, and some are very experienced and reasonable lay people. They are literally not at all fussed about various levels of CC response policy.
The second group believes that it is partially too late, but not too late to avoid the worst of climate change. I belong to the second group. Examples of damage already done include the MDB disaster and to the reliability of urban water supplies in Australia. In other words, whether we like it or not, we are already into CC amelioration. It is just that nobody likes to actually call it that.
Again, I may not have been too clear, but I would have like to see Australia take the lead on the issue by saying the world should agree to 20%, that if the world did that, Australia would support it wholeheartedly. As a wealthy country, Australia could throw other things into the pot, including the provision of renewable aid to third parties, support for afforestation, and so on.
I may not have been clear but if the rest of the world does not do 20%, neither should Australia. If there is no general agreement, then we should simply forget an Australian contribution of nothing much in terms of the percentage of the global CO2 levels. We should get straight into strategic amelioration.
The reason I hammer the Australian unilateral 5% ETS position is that it might give punters a faux feeling of CC security. A unilateral 5% ETS is simply poor policy. It has a significant opportunity cost. The proper policy in that situation would be to target amelioration strategically.
In terms of ‘heading or the hills’ or any other silly survivalist fantasies, I am not into that sort of stuff. If the world’s preferred policy position on CC response is essentially ‘do nothing’ cloaked in smoke and mirrors, then the appropriate policy stance for Australian governments to take is a strategic, considered and planned approach to amelioration.
The current approach to amelioration is chaotic – look at the responses to the MDB crisis and the panic purchase of massive desalinaization plants. My concern is that it is this style of amelioration that we should be avoiding.
The major current drivers for amelioration are panic reactions by politicians trying to avoid punishment at the polls. The really important current driver, though, is virtually hidden from punters. It is the global reinsurance industry. I recommend a thorough read of the MunichRe website. Unlike politicians, those guys have a single bottom line and have absolutely no difficulty working with 95% probabilities. The resultant drivers are already affecting patterns of capital investment significantly.
My point is, amelioration is happening now. At the political level it is chaotic and panic stations stuff. At the commercial level, the drivers are already quite strategic.
William @ 450
Thank you. What a hoot.
Terry Boylan’s ads in Frome lead with: “the hurt to be caused to Nyrstar (Port Pirie smelter) by Labors Carbon Trading Scheme” – along with the familiar black and white photos and scarey red text
“As is so often the case, it falls to Harry Hutton to restore sanity to the Israel-Palestine debate”
I recalled gusface had made an accurate telling point a few days ago better than I could hav in message , and it has takken me 20 min to find it
Gusface
#358 “Our voiices should not be stifled,or our concerns muted just because it is Israel,they should be evn louder and more condemning BECAUSE it’s Israel”
Th uncriticisable is no longer , for mine Its an immense challenge for th new POTUS and I wish him well in obtaining justice & total non israeli occupation for th Palstiniens and safe national security for Israel
Ron If whats happening now leads as I fear to a resumption of suicide attacks in Israel then the outrage will leave the Obama administration right where Israel want them..
boerwar, I agree with nearly everything you have to say. I suppose I think that if it’s not too late already, it soon will be. Where we differ is on the merits of trying to get 5% into law. I think it is worth doing almost because it is not a boat-rocker. There has been so much backsliding and avoidance on this issue that even standing still is starting to look good in my eyes. Considering that a straight up 15% or 20% has almost no chance of being passed by the Senate, just about any ETS that will pass is worth grabbing imho. (You can’t underestimate the willingness of the Libs to play for political advantage on this issue…)
PAAPTSEF
A cynical person may sugest thats precisely Israel’s objective…result is de facto Israel continues to occupy using resistanse attacks be they rockets or suiciders as th excuse for continuing to occupy… I mean THAT has been th excuse for 42 years
A rational person wuld sugest that th Palestiniens as ocupyee WILL continue to resist even if it is rockets and no suiciders…th rockets ALONE ar th israeli excuse for continuing to occupy arab lands
Only way out of such a chicken and egg conflict situation PAAPTSEF is either
1/ Palestiniens a/ FIRST cease resisting th occupier(Israel) …and b/ for how long …and c/ will subsequent Israeli withdrawal be unconditional OR
2/ th Occupier (Israel) FIRST withdraws (with concurent US military deterrane assuranses for Israel’s security)
For 42 years US/Israeli policy unsucessfuly has tried 1/ a/ (defying natural human occupyees desire to resist an occuppier ….and hads NEVEr satisfactorily answered either 1/ b/ or 1/c
I’m suggsting 2/……and NOTE point 2/ DOES include satsifying Israel’s alleged sole reason for ocupying….safe national security
Briefly @ 457
Glad we are getting there!
The correct thing for both Labour and the Liberals at this stage would be to say they are waiting for the world to come to a decision on percentage targets but that they believe that 20% on a global basis is both achievable and very desirable.
In the interim, should the Liberals knock back a 5% unilateral ETS, good on them. It would be the right decision, even if made for the wrong reasons. But the Liberals will not knock it back. So, we will have two parties supporting an irrational policy because of the HowRuddian Convergence (it is ‘practical’, it is ‘balanced’ it won’t frighten the horses, and both parties believe it will assist in their election prospects).
If the whole world goes to 20%, the Libs will not be able to knock back 20% for
Australia. They might be able to knock back specific national mechanisms, but they will not be able to knock back the 20%.
Boerwar
#452
I tink your position may hav changed Certianly irrespective some posters objected to Ruddd’s 5% as being too small and that he should hav annouced a higher unilateral % target My response was that no more than 5% could get Senate approval now anyway
then there was th critisism we shuld make a “stand” My response has been WHATEVER Coppenhaggen agreed to would be our target anyway beit say 15%….and that if either or BOTH th libs and Greens rejected Rudds subsequent Senate Bill incororating that World agreed CC target Rudd wuld go a DD and I suggested he’d probably win it …irrespective a Lib scare campaign in middle of GFC
YOUR position today (perhaps always) is that oz declare support for a 20% internatonal CC agreement , and if no 20% agreement then oz should hav a 0% target , and oz take your “amelioration” route (a term I’ve now looked up and am frankley none th wiser of re CC solutions )
So you’ve rulled out accepting both a 15% World agreemtn (guess 510 ppm co2 level) as unacceptable , or a 10% World agreement (about 550 ppm co2 level) as unacceptable , and also ruled out an agreed possible 2nd step in either such World agreement for commencing 20% at a later date
Also in th absence of a world Agreement , you’ve also ruled out oz retaining a unilateral 5% and its operational ETS as a proof of a “start” (of a provable intent to other zero target Countrys) in post 2009 to try to convince those reluctant THEN existing 0% target Countrys to also commit to a 5% target ETS…..allowing th opton of those Countrys having also started an operational ETS (th hard part) to in future increase that target under either there future new Leadership or being later more informed
Remember Lance Armstrongs words on th Moon
The dudded Windschuttle can serve it up but he can’t take it.
Windschuttle thinks that the reason he published an article that was at least 15% crap was that he was tricked. Yes… now, what part of ‘hoax’ does this very clever man not understand?
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24885923-7582,00.html
‘Windschuttle, a leading antagonist against the cultural Left and black armband brigade in the history wars, complained that if it were any other editor who had fallen for such a hoax, it wouldn’t be a story.
Windschuttle claims Gould, who is yet to claim a $200 cheque for the story, “tricked” him into printing the article after a brief correspondence that was conducted entirely via email.’
Ron
Golly, I thought I was beginning to persuade a few folks! Now you spoil my fun by saying I have shifted my position…ie that folk have persuaded me… Let’s hope the truth is somewhere in the middle of that one.
Cf Lance Armstrong *grins*, if the Tour de France ever has a lunar stage, I will follow his words with more interest than I have in the past. If it is that other Armstrong fellow, then my view is that we are well past the need for small steps. Not interested. It is already partially too late (MDB, unreliable urban water supplies, millions of hectares of conifers lost to bark beetles etc, etc). We need to stop fooling around with toddlers steps and stop fooling the punters with an irrelevant 5% ETS.
Cf ‘amelioration’, I hadn’t thought too much about a definition but I suppose it might be something like: ‘actions taken to adapt to the adverse effects of climate change.’ I think it sort of stands in opposition to CC Response, which is essentially about reducing CC.
I actually don’t like the word ‘amelioration’ much but I think it might be the more-or-less established term. Happy to move on to another one if someone can coin it.
Australia should have put 20% on the table. It did not.
Australia will have to go with whatever the world goes with. This could be:
1. Nothing, in which case a 5% unilateral ETS is a very bad policy. Amelioration will be the go.
2. Nothing much, dressed up with smoke and mirrors (the most likely outcome). 10%, with a whole lot of fudging, smoke and mirrors, ‘offsets’ and let-outs is a Nothing outcome. European Green politicians (for what that is worth) are saying the EU’s 20% is actually closer to 6%-7% once the smoke and mirrors have been removed. This is par for the EU course. They will continue to shift their really dirty stuff beyond their boundaries (while continuing consumption patterns), will do a bit of fiddling around the edges with renewables, and will do some sequestration in third world countries. It is just like a magic pudding. Everyone keeps consuming and the cake is still there at the end. So are the CO2 levels.
3. Third global oucome is something like a nominal 15%. Australia will comply with the international regime. It will most likely be, once the fudging, the backsliding and the smoke and mirrors have been taken into account, something well below a real 10%. It will not be enough.
4. Fourth global outcome is something like a nominal 20%. For the reasons outlined above, this will turn out to be a real 10%. Barely acceptable.
Interesting story by Patrick Lion in the Curious Snail this morning explaining why the Queensland National Party might suddenly be interested in trail bikes. It turns out that Springborg has been stung by criticism Clive Palmer sponsored his free Helicopter and plane trips.
I’m sure that Queensland taxpayers won’t mind paying for Springborg to use commercial planes and charter flights as well as his chauffeur driven car during the election campaign. He is after all looking for a job working for the taxpayer rather than, Clive Palmer, Queensland’s richest man, isn’t he?
Then after his third defeat as Opposition Leader, Springborg can go back to his property and ride trail bikes round and round his huge property for evermore, saving taxpayers all the costs of keeping him as Opposition Leader.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24885038-952,00.html
On the point about ‘ I don’t want the campaign being hijacked’. A bit late to worry about that the Liberal National support has broken through it’s trendline and is in freefall. It actually happened just before the September Newspoll was released showing the Liberal National Party to be at their peak. They are now in terminal decline.
Steve
Any news on, or insights into, Brough’s future?
This is enough to make you laugh, especially (6) and (7)
Just look at Satyam’s credentials.
1. It is in top four IT exporters from India
2. it is a $2-billion blue-chip company listed on the New York Stock Exchange
3. It operates in 66 countries worldwide and counts 185 of the Fortune 500 companies among its clients,
4. It employs 53,000 people,
5. It is audited by a Big Four audit firm, PricewaterhouseCoopers;
6. It was awarded the Golden Peacock Award for Excellence in Corporate Governance in 2008 by the World Council for Corporate Governance and,
7. It’s chief hacker, Mr Raju himself was chosen the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year 2007
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200901080339.htm
If i were a tiger, i would sue for defamation against my reputation. But what can you say about the reputation of PricewaterhouseCoopers and Ernst & Young.
another enRON indeed.
Doo RON RON yeah Doo RON RON. Amigo, what have u done with the RONnettes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4J3ckSR7s
Finns
Having been “let go” just before chrissy,by a software firm (which I cant name)
and watching whats happening in the UK and Ireland, I think afew more satyam’s are on the radar.
Rationalisation will decimate (at least) the whole software/services sector.
Back to Aust politics
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/truce-called-on-hardline-sentencing/2009/01/07/1231004105755.html
“THE NSW Opposition has pledged to end the “law and order auction” in a dramatic break with the tradition of promising to increase punishments and fill jails that has characterised every state election campaign since 1988.”
Credit where its due, its a good move – the right thing, hope it really transforms into action.
Sertse
yes it is miles better than what comes out of the mouth of the recent newly wed
“we will fill up the vacant prison cells, once we do that we will build more prisons”
This from a government who has no money and runs hugh deficits and cannot spend to stop NSW from going into a recession
462 Boerwar – Maybe instead of the dreaded “HowRuddian Convergence” we now have the BoerwaRON convergence happening.
469 – Of course if this had been a Labor government coming out with this policy you would have been all over it like a rash dovif with the old catch cry “Labor is weak on crime.” Now the Libs have to deal with that and probably from many of their own supporters. Labor will be seen as strong on crime by comparison.
“We will fill up the vacant prison cells, once we do that we will build more prisons” – Something the Libs advocated for many years and did a good job of selling it. So much so they may have difficulty selling their new policy.
A “courageous” policy that by the Libs and I must say a good one.
Well, there you go. A so called weak ETS with handouts everywhere for everybody according to its detractors and here we have the miners complaining. Imagine if it had been a strong ETS.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24885930-601,00.html
Garry Bruce 471
I have no policy on crime, I think reduction of crime is the only thing I want. I do think some people deserve to spend their life in prison (Murderer, Child sex offenders). I think Greg Smith who I believe has a DPP background would be one of the people who might have some idea of what works.
But I think you are correct in one thing, having lived in NSW for the last 20 years, I think I would be protesting about tax cuts from this incompetant NSW ALP government. But the way the idiots are spending, I do not think I will get any tax cuts
Outing ‘Sharon Gould’: the hoaxer’s identity revealed
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/
Amigo FINNS
#466
“Just look at Satyam’s credentials……..But what can you say about the reputation of PricewaterhouseCoopers and Ernst & Younga nother enRON indeed.
Doo RON RON yeah Doo RON RON. Amigo, what have u done with the RONnettes? ”
Amigo , th RONnettes that I released on those Ivory Tower lot on G island devasting there defenses , deserved some R & R and now ar getting specialised CC training by amigo Vera
That word “audit” in ronaconamics just means some auditer guys charging an exhorbitant fee “as “professionals” used an adding machine to confirm th companies books of figures do reely add up to each total So its quite sopfisticated…. tink people believe th numbers in company accounts ar reel figures rather than mirrirs , and that auditers ar verifying that
However accountanys accounting system is quite equitable to both th “left” and th “right” ….you see everytime they put a figure on th ‘left’ side , they then put exactlky th same number on th “right” side How fair is that
Amigo Ronnie,
i knew that if i let you loose, you will find a political angle to the Satyam fraud. we, on the “left” side of the ledger, of course, were always there first and dictate the entry. those on the “right” always follow us and even they are right, they are always wRONg.
Just like someone we know well, no name mention here. You know: “XXXX, you are wRONg, again”. I am just too scare that i might offend William again. The almighty William might insert a new rule that we cant call XXXX as XYZ or FW.
Gus, i used to run my own IT Company and got out after the Dotcom crash, thanks God for that. Best thing i have ever done. i really dont know how IT companies make money these days as IT has become such a commodity.
Punter, please come back, all is forgiven.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cricket/pietersen-replaced-by-strauss-on-day-of-farce-1231829.html
The Poms could be innovative and try an actual Pom as captain! Maybe even make a new selection criteria, ie the need to be a Pom to be in the Pommy team.
Fifty years ago it used to be a trivia qiestion requiring some good knowledge of cricket and its history to pick an English cricket team of foreign born test players, now it is possible to do so just from South Africans over the last couple of decades.
It must make the players feel special to be chosen these days, about as patriotic as the Legion Etrangere.
473 dovif – I don’t get it. IYHO should the NSW government spend or not? Should they give tax cuts or not? Should they try and fix the mess or not? Or don’t you care?
LOL – yeah, I believe in motherhood too. Nice avoidance tactic.
FINNS
#476
Amigo Ronnie,
Ron : However accountanys accounting system is quite equitable to both th “left” and th “right” ….you see everytime they put a figure on th ‘left’ side , they then put exactlky th same number on th “right” side How fair is that
Amigo FINNS : “i knew that if i let you loose, you will find a political angle to the Satyam fraud. we, on the “left” side of the ledger, of course, were always there first and dictate the entry. those on the “right” always follow us and even they are right, they are always wRONg.”
yes Amigo we of th ‘left’ ar always first , us being on th left ledger side & those ‘right’ that follow uus & copy us still get it wRONg I mean interest rates drop when we take over is not a coincidense
BTW , all these South Africaans playing for england as captains …..does this mean we look forward to many replacement Tony Greig clones on channel 9 ….for ever Then at Olympics we hav Jamacans sprinting for England , geez next they’ll want to win Worldt english speekin contest……and I’m not changing from oz
Surely not even the AOU (Anti-Obama Union) registered and living here can disagree with this.
http://news.smh.com.au/world/obama-vows-wall-street-overhaul-20090108-7cko.html
[Surely not even the AOU (Anti-Obama Union) registered and living here can disagree with this.
http://news.smh.com.au/world/obama-vows-wall-street-overhaul-20090108-7cko.html
But that means SOCIALISM!!!
But Dario some of those AOU members are socialists at heart.
btw, the “captain” appointed to replace Pieterson, Johan Sebastian Strauss, is also a SA.
#485 – GB, Obi is having a tough time today explain his “duality” proposal of trying to cut the budget deficit at the same trying to spend another $1.2Trillion to create 3m jobs.
Sorry, yes he CAN as he walks on the water of the Sea of Galilee as well. If only Hamas would let him.
Ever thought that with the GFC a change of tune is warranted Finn or is that just a no, no. So which is it IYHO, he should spend or he shouldn’t? Or doesn’t it really matter because whatever he does you’ll find fault with it?
hi Ron, I’m back , those Ronnettes are uncontrollable,tasted blood on G island and have turned feral.
Obama says don’t you worry about the Middle East he’ll have plenty to say about it after the 20th!
Let’s see now that’s 2 weeks away I’d hope the Israelies had stopped their mass murder by then…. and I bet Obama is hoping the same thing, ie that’s it’s all sorted before he has to take control of the whole mess.
GB, i am already warming up for OBI as he has just created Clinton Mark III and with Hillary at the State and Billy at Stateless, the Trinity will change the World for the better. Well, better than the one Dubya left behind anyway. So we are on the same side. I just want to make sure Obi delivers.
Amigo Vera, this amigo thinks you need a new hairdo.
487 – Finn, fair enough, good to hear. Let’s hope he can do something otherwise we’re stuffed.
Nobody has an opinion on Chris Kenny, former Downer staffer and Advertiser journalist, becoming Turnbull’s chief of staff?
Finns
is this OK
Tried to change avatar but diddn’t work?
Amigo Vera, i was thinking more like this:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/116/309229631_8d6d76ce43.jpg?v=0
Amigo vera, you have to clear your cache. the new hairdo is definitely much smoother.
Wow Finns. Not anything like what i was thinking of.
After working for some time with the notoriously moody Turnbull, Chris Kenny may lose his patience and advise that the Opposition Leader apply a Taser to his vitals* …
* This would have sounded so much more poetic if I’d used the “t” word here … ah, but alas, rules are rules …
Amigo Vera, that was especially designed and created for the Ronnettes. But since you are the Amigo, you have the first option.
bob1234
At least we don’t have to put up with Kenny’s pitiful attempts at journalism in the Tiser any more. If Turnbull can’t do any better than Kenny for his Chief Of Staff, it’s time he stopped trying.
BTW I’ve been reliably informed that Rann will have a Cabinet reshuffle shortly after the Frome by-election.
Chairman Rudd’s army is growing
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/08/2461647.htm
Finns am testing you avatar… here goes…
THE teenage son of Queensland’s richest man Clive Palmer, and so-called ‘’sugar daddy” of the LNP – the new party created by the Liberal National merger), has won pre-selection at the next state election.
The Courier-Mail reports the billionaire iron ore magnate’s 18-year-old son Michael will contest the seat of Nudgee on Brisbane’s northside.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24886844-5006786,00.html
Well he may do better than Max Swanson’s amazing 28% at the last State Election and he was the only person to nominate for the LNP in Nudgee, but geez.
Politics is perception, and my perception is that the LNP is too close to the Palmer family.
Will the Borg realise, after he loses again in Sept., that he stop playing politics and go back to his farm?
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