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Essential Research: 62-38

The latest weekly Essential Research poll has Labor’s lead steady at 62-38. Also included are an interesting question on what Peter Costello should do (34 per cent quit, 46 per stay in various possible capacities), along with very detailed material on economic management. Not only but also:

• A comprehensively briefed Andrew Landeryou at VexNews explains the background to the Victorian Liberal Senate preselection vote to be held this Friday. Michael Ronaldson seems assured of retaining his top position, but Julian McGauran faces an uphill battle for third place against Ross Fox, a Peter Costello backer. The second place is reserved for the Nationals.

Phillip Coorey of the Sydney Morning Herald reports on a NSW Liberal state executive ruling that new members in Bradfield will not be eligible to vote in the preselection to replace Brendan Nelson, to be held in nine months. Normally party rules require membership for six months for eligibility, but that would be an invitation to mass branch stacking in the current circumstances. Coorey also weighs in on recent shenanigans in the Perth seat of Tangney.

• Tasmanian LHMWU secretary David O’Byrne has confirmed he will seek preselection as a candidate for Franklin at next year’s state election. O’Byrne is a former state party president and brother of Bass MP Michelle O’Byrne. Among the Liberal candidates will be Vanessa Goodwin, who narrowly failed to defeat the now-departed Paula Wreidt at the 2006 election.

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  1. 1401
    redwombat
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    AHHH HEAVEN

  2. 1402
    Oz
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    Bank of England cuts rates by 50 basis points to 0.5%.

  3. 1403
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Bank of England cuts rates by 50 basis points to 0.5%.

    Would it encourage spending if they paid people interest to borrow, and charge interest on savings? :D

  4. 1404
    Steve K
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    There’s tax cuts legislated for July 1st.

    I’m aware of that. There’s another round next year as well. That’s a legacy of the Howard vote buying strategy and Rudd had little option but to sign on.

    I respect the fact that Rudd will honor the tax cut commitment but I’d like to see an end to tax cuts being used as the panacea to all of the financial ills in business and society.

  5. 1405
    The Finnigans
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    beep, beep, beep…. meanwhile back at the ranch…… GM is on the brink

    NEW YORK, March 5 (Reuters) - General Motors (GM.N) has substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern if it fails to stem its losses and generate cash, and it may be forced to file for bankruptcy, the automaker said on Thursday.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN0531966920090305

  6. 1406
    redwombat
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Check these two spivs on Lateline

  7. 1407
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    I’d like to see an end to tax cuts being used as the panacea to all of the financial ills in business and society.

    Me too. That’s one of my major reasons why I can’t stand the Liberals, whatever the circumstance is they think you can sold problems by cutting taxes and cutting the pay and conditions of low skilled workers. It’s the Republican Party policy imported to Australia.

  8. 1408
    redwombat
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    Spiv #2…”the banks probably lent too much”

  9. 1409
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    beep, beep, beep…. meanwhile back at the ranch…… GM is on the brink

    Just let it collapse I say. The U.S. government may be able to save 2 car markers, but 3, I doubt it.

  10. 1410
    redwombat
    Posted Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    Are these 2 Malcolm’s mates

  11. 1411
    Bree
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Turnbull knows zilch about the economy without Costello giving him advice.

  12. 1412
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    Turnbull knows zilch about the economy without Costello giving him advice.

    Costello knows zilch about the economy without Treasury giving him advice.

    He demonstrated this tonight on Q&A when he didn’t understand that savings is simply deferred spending.

  13. 1413
    Generic Person
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    write books no-one wants to read,

    Oh really? The Costello Memoirs has sold over 40,000 copies, making it one of the all-time best sellers for political books.

  14. 1414
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    The Costello Memoirs has sold over 40,000 copies, making it one of the all-time best sellers for political books.

    Unfortunately it is boring as hell to read. He blames all the mistakes of the Howard government on John Howard, and takes credit for anything that was popular.

  15. 1415
    Bree
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    Did anyone read Mark Latham’s article in the AFR yesterday? It was excellent. It was about Rudd using media spin to show off economic credentials he doesn’t have.

  16. 1416
    Bree
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:03 am | Permalink

    Look who it is! Keating thinks stimulus is not effective:

    http://abc.com.au/news/stories/2009/03/05/2508723.htm

    Is Keating still Rudd’s secret economic adviser?

  17. 1417
    PAAPTSEF
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    Latham probably has better numbers to take the Lib leadership at the moment

  18. 1418
    PAAPTSEF
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    the numbers to take the Lib leadership

  19. 1419
    Generic Person
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    No 1414

    I found it interesting. I thought Van Onselen’s biography of John Howard was better written, however.

  20. 1420
    bob1234
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    Turnbull knows zilch about the economy without Costello giving him advice.

    What, like Costello declaring last year that we had reached the bottom of the GFC? He’s an economic dunce.

  21. 1421
    bob1234
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    Not to mention Hawke/Keating have a long list of economic reforms, during global recessions (again, not to mention, having guided us out of the late 70s/early 80s one). What do Howard/Costello have? NoChoices and a consumption tax. Whoop de doo.

  22. 1422
    bob1234
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:39 am | Permalink

    I think Costello is loving the current environment, everybody saying nice things of him, everybody wanting him to lead the Liberals this is not what he got during the Howie Years…

    Glen, that’s one of the smartest observations you’ve ever made. Costello is all about ego. For 11 years he couldn’t have the top job despite agreements by Howard to hand it over to him, and now that Howard is gone, Costello would rather have everyone lavish praise on him like they used to do to Howard. He doesn’t want the leadership and the realities to sink in like they did/have for Brenda and Turnbull. His ego is too big for that. He’d much rather remain where he is, seen by all in his party as the messiah.

  23. 1423
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    I no I shouldn’t read horror stories before bed…but the 4th horseman of the apocalypse Roubini always tells a good story.

    SNIP: See article 2 of comment moderation guidelines – The Management.

    Abandon hope, all ye who enter here -

    The U.S. Financial System Is Effectively Insolvent

    http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/04/global-recession-insolvent-opinions-columnists-roubini-economy.html

  24. 1424
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 1:52 am | Permalink

    Paul Keating article makes RealClearMarkets list of stories today.
    Via the Financial Times
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e9184e8c-08ef-11de-b8b0-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

    http://www.realclearmarkets.com/

  25. 1425
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 3:00 am | Permalink

    Media still might want to ask the Liberal party where is the $392 billion it had come through its hands gone.

  26. 1426
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    Better balance the horror story with some hope stories.

    The Recession Will End…

    ...Nonetheless, with some dissent, the group believes the economy will begin growing again late this year ...

    http://www.fundmasteryblog.com/2009/03/04/the-recession-will-end/

    NY Fed’s Model Predicts End of Recession in 2009
    http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/03/ny-feds-model-predicts-end-of-recession.html

  27. 1427
    Judith Barnes
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    cossie’s not going to retire at the next election, he’s got his baton half out of his backpack, i guess we’ll be seeing him as the ABC’s poster boy on their front page instead of Turnbull in the future.

    http://abc.com.au/news/stories/2009/03/06/2508812.htm

  28. 1428
    fredn
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    Immature spoilt brat was Costello’s Q and A persona, they are not the qualities of a leader. I think Costello’s baton is still firmly in his backpack, he is enjoying Turnbulls destruction yet has no intention of being leader.

    I was left with the impression that Tanner was the only person on the panel with more than two brain cells to rub together, I admired the guy, surrounded by morons and he kept his cool.

    As for the show itself, it was serious issue and it was turned into a farce.

  29. 1429
    Judith Barnes
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    did you see the part where Cossie snarled when he was cut off from his rant?

  30. 1430
    fredn
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    Bree mumbled

    Look who it is! Keating thinks stimulus is not effective:

    Keating actually thinks all the stimulus’s, including the one being handed out by the USA will not be effective. He is suggesting a much stronger role for the G20. It was not an attack on Rudd.

  31. 1431
    fredn
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    Judith I used to respect the guy, I didn’t watch the destruction of his credibility too closely, to think I once argued with my wife that he was ok, she could never stand him and she was right.

  32. 1432
    Judith Barnes
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    fredn, i think we all go through times when we take our pollies on face value and see them as we want them to be, i had a time when i thought Latham was the answer to labor’s probs and where i was wary of Gillard, it was only when Gillard came into her responsabilitys and grew with it all that i changed my mind, she’s proved her mettle over and over and yet Latham proved to be a clay idol. :)

  33. 1433
    polyquats
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Keating thinks stimulus is not effective

    I think I’ve worked it out! Bree writes the headlines for ABC News Online.

  34. 1434
    Diogenes
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    Wall St drops another 4% to a new 12 year low. Citibank and GM look in awful trouble.

    US stocks plunged as one of the world's most prominent banks and a once-mighty US manufacturer traded as mere shells of themselves.

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,25146520-643,00.html

  35. 1435
    Tom
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    Why is there a picture of Costello on the front page of the ABC news site shoing us the length of his ‘manhood’? ;)

    Tom

  36. 1436
    Tom
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    showing, not shoing

  37. 1437
    Diogenes
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Rann has worked out that the Rudd-Wong deal on the MDB is a piece of junk cobbled together to keep everyone happy and deliver nothing, which seems to be a trademark of Wong’s policies. I don’t often agree with Rann but I think he’s got it right this time. The fact that it’s got up the noses of eastern state pundits so much shows it was the right thing to do.

    KEVIN Rudd's $13 billion deal to rescue the Murray-Darling river system imploded yesterday as South Australia threatened to go to the High Court to force states upstream to release water and pay damages.

    The proposed constitutional challenge would target Queensland, NSW and Victoria over water trading restrictions and force them to release permanent water flows into the river.

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25145767-601,00.html

  38. 1438
    Tom
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Sorry William, I could not help myself, the opportunity was a begging :)

  39. 1439
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    ABC bias: yesterday Fran Kelly had Swan on, today she had Hockey. Hockey got less time, and was given a much rougher ride. She was deferential to Swan, but talked over the top of Hockey. The 8am news which followed led with a negative story about Costello destabilising Turnbull, based on his Q&A appearance last night – ie, on speculation. Sounds like the same old ABC to me, bless ‘em.

  40. 1440
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Oh really? The Costello Memoirs has sold over 40,000 copies, making it one of the all-time best sellers for political books.

    Do you have a link?

    The Latham Diaries (55,000 copies sold in 2004) and The Hawke Memoirs (75,000 in 1994). I argued that there had been many more forgettable efforts.

    Adler was defensive because she had 50,000 copies of The Costello Memoirs on their way into bookshops. Media reports of the book's sales since then have been harsh: they have "slowed to a trickle", "tanked" or "completely died away". But it's not quite so bad.

    According to Nielsen BookScan, Costello sold 8200 in the first six days (The Latham Diaries sold 13,500 in its first week) and another 4000 in the second week, ending September 27. Adler puts the total at 15,000 sales (BookScan does not cover all outlets).

    That pattern might not be good enough to sell 50,000 or prompt the 20,000 reprint Adler was planning. And, depending on Peter Costello's advance, it might lose money for MUP.

    http://blogs.smh.com.au/entertainment/archives/undercover/020279.html

  41. 1441
    juliem
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    1440, ‘Keating: The Inside Story’ was up until about 2 weeks ago, the only Aussie political bio I’ve ever purchased. A few weeks ago, I purchased a Curtin biography. When someone turns up better than those two men, I will purchase their bio :-D

  42. 1442
    Diogenes
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Adam

    I still feel dirty after watching last night’s QANDA Cossie LoveFest. I’m more convinced than ever that Cossie will end up leading the Libs. The speculation is fair enough as he keeps feeding it. Turnbull must be really pissed off.

  43. 1443
    Diogenes
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    At least Tony Jones’ dislike of Cossie was palpable. He really hates him.

  44. 1444
    Cuppa
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Grog 1440,

    Well exposed. Spot the Fiberal.

  45. 1445
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Nevertheless, a pro-Liberal broadcaster would not have led with that story.

  46. 1446
    BH
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    I am disappointed in myself. I actually felt sorry for Malcolm this am – he looked awful in the piccies we saw on telly this am. Costello must be getting to him.

    Speaking of which, he was awful last night. How sick are we of hearing he was Treasurer for 12 years and that he singlehandedly saved Australia, yakkety yak, yak, yak. Seems the old fella is mightily jealous of Ruddie, too.

    He didn’t like it when Sally from The Monthly said that he benefitted from good things done by Hawke and Keating. The mouth set hard into his forced smile and the coldness oozed from the eyes.

    For goodness put up or shut up, Costello.

    How good is Lindsay Tanner with the quick quip – left Costello for dead.

  47. 1447
    BH
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    I agree Adam – a big change this morning with Fran Kelly. She must be sick of hearing Hockey’s ridiculous spiel.

    Craig Emerson was excellent and seems to be a good Minister for Small Business – we need that badly at the moment.

  48. 1448
    juliem
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    BH @ 1446,

    BH
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 10:02 am | Permalink
    I am disappointed in myself. I actually felt sorry for Malcolm this am - he looked awful in the piccies we saw on telly this am. Costello must be getting to him.

    50 lashes with a wet noodle and into the corner with you :-D ……. don’t get sucked in by any of them ;-)

  49. 1449
    Socrates
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    I missed QandA but I think Costello was foolish debating tanner – all the times I have heard Tanner speak on economics he obviously is intelligent and convincing on the topic in a way that Costello will never be without treasury speaking notes.

    As for the economy, I don’t doubt TP and others concerns about Citibank (dead) GM (dying) and a few others. However, at this point I wish they woudl just bite the bullet and nationalise or kill them. They can’t recover so its better to get it over with and start trying to find new jobs for the people concerned.

    I am also more optimistic in the medium term for some recovery. Economists always project the future based on the past. When the past is good they are over optimistic. When the past is bad (recent past terrible) theya re over pessimistic.

    That being said, I hope someone in Canberra is working out what to do with Holden if GM go under. When Lehamns collapsed they ransacked their British subsidiary of cash just before hand. I fear GM could be tempted to do the same.

  50. 1450
    Posted Friday, March 6, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Banks failing is one thing – no-one likes banks. But no US government could let GM go broke, it’s a national icon. It’s hard to conceive of nationalisation in the US, but if the alternative is GM going bust that’s what they’ll do. More likely though is some fudge involving mergers, rationalisation, more government handouts and maybe foreign equity.

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