Comments on: Newspoll: 60-40 to Labor in Victoria

By: Chris Curtis

Chris Curtis — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:55:48 +0000

Bree (127),

I think it very unlikely that Michael Kroger would join the Labor Party.

By: MDMConnell

MDMConnell — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:45:51 +0000

#126

Who’s O’Brien?

By: Bree

Bree — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:05:32 +0000

Michael Kroger- Premier of Victoria- 2014-2022

He’s our last hope.

By: centaur009

centaur009 — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:49:47 +0000

I thought O’brien was meant to be a tallent, why else put him in the safest seat. What a banker.

By: Adam in Canberra

Adam in Canberra — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:39:27 +0000

Dear me

we are entering unchartered territory

should of course be

we are entering uncharted territory

accountants get chartered, territory gets charted.
William when are we getting a “review” button like they have at Wikipedia?

By: MDMConnell

MDMConnell — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:14:51 +0000

#121

That was what 1999 was supposed to be about. Something like 7 senior ministers retired at that election- it was part of the reason for Kennett running such a one-man campaign (apart from his ego, of course). The likes of Napthine, Asher, Robert Clark, Robert Dean, Doyle and Ted himself were supposed to be the next generation. It’s not that the Libs haven’t regenerated, it’s that the new blood they did introduce didn’t quite cut it. To be fair, the benign economic times and general satisfaction with Labor probably meant anyone would struggle in Opposition.

Also, being wiped out in 2002 didn’t help matters. Any potential up-and-comers that weren’t in an ultra safe seat got the boot.

By: triton

triton — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:10:41 +0000

Shadow treasurer was a tough gig because Brumby had the state’s finances in such good shape. I don’t know what anyone could have done. Now that Brumby is premier he’s responsible for everything that goes wrong.

I didn’t say that Asher was their saviour, only that she’s their only hope for the next election.

By: Adam in Canberra

Adam in Canberra — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:09:51 +0000

I don’t think supporters of Vic Labor should get complacent. Everyone said the WA Libs were hopeless too, and they won. When voters are ready to throw a government out, they will do so. I don’t think the voters want to throw Brumby out, but we are entering unchartered territory with the Great Recession, and by the end of next year who knows where we will be?

By: Greensborough Growler

Greensborough Growler — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:55:41 +0000

triton,

So your argument is that she got cleaned up by Brumby last time they directly opposed each other, so therefore she would do better the second time around just because?

Hmm, the Libs problem is that under Kennett they bred a generation of “flower pots”. Remember how Kennett said no Liberal MLA was to speak during the 1999 election. Too many of the Libs think the ban still applies.

There are no short term solutions. They need a cleanout of their pre 2000 candidates and start again.

By: triton

triton — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:29:23 +0000

GG, in the previous parliament she was up against Brumby, who was apparently such a good treasurer that business leaders lament that he’s not still there (I read a report in The Age to that effect sometime). Yes, she’d be up against him again, but leader is a different sort of role. They have to get noticed, and she would be – certainly more than softly-spoken nice guy Baillieu.