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Morgan: 60.5-39.5

Morgan’s latest polling release covers 955 respondents from last weekend’s face-to-face surveys, and shows Labor’s two-party lead down from 61.5-38.5 to 60.5-39.5. Labor’s primary vote is down a point to 50.5 per cent, and the Coalition’s is up 1.5 per cent to 34.5 per cent. On top of which:

• Silly Steve Fielding joined with the Coalition on Wednesday to vote down government electoral reforms that would tie public funding for election candidates to their electoral expenditure, lower the threshold for disclosure of donations to $1000 from $10,000 (which the Howard government used its Senate majority to jack it up to), ban foreign donations and anonymous donations of over $50, and require parties to disclose donations every six months rather than annually. The sticking point is Fielding’s insistence that the government also arbitrarily cap public funding to political parties at $10 million. The bill was reintroduced to the House yesterday.

Submissions have been published in response to the federal government’s green paper on donations, funding and expenditure.

• Responding to mounting speculation she will take on Don Randall in Canning at the next federal election, senior Gallop/Carpenter government minister Alannah MacTiernan tells The West Australian: “It’s something that I’d consider but it’s far too early. The election is a long way away and it’s not something a decision can be made on until early next year.”

• The South Australian Liberals have picked a new candidate for the state seat of Mawson to replace former Kingston MHR Kym Richardson, who was charged in December with attempting to pervert the course of justice by impersonating a police officer. Matthew Donovan, described by the local Southern Times Messenger newspaper as a “self-employed importer and property developer”, won preselection ahead of Heidi Harris, adviser to Shadow Transport Minister Duncan McFetridge and unsuccessful candidate for federal preselection in Mayo; Heidi Greaves, public servant, former Onkaparinga councillor and unsuccessful candidate for Elder; and Alana Sparrow, Housing Industry Association lawyer and former media adviser to Richardson.

• The Daily Telegraph reports that NSW Opposition Leader Barry O’Farrell “will hire a team of constitutional lawyers to explore recall provisions to end fixed four-year terms for incompetent governments”. This would involve provisions for the Governor to “sack a corrupt or useless government” if called on to do so by public petitions, presumably in a fashion similar to that which brought Arnold Schwarzenegger to power in California. UPDATE: More from a skeptical Imre Salusinszky at The Australian.

• Chris Back this week took his place in the Senate, filling the vacancy created by the departure of Western Australian Liberal Chris Ellison.

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  1. 1
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    What exactly is Richardson alleged to have done?

  2. 2
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Barry O’Farrell had better be ready for this course of action to rebound sometime in the future when he starts to misfire badly.

  3. 3
    ltep
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Some pretty interesting stuff in there.

    1) Wouldn’t Ms MacTiernan need to be pretty brave to try to win Canning?
    2) There is absolutely no way O’Farrell’s suggestion could work. It would give the Governor the ability to make a decision completely based on their own personal opinion, perhaps fueled by media beat ups… a really silly idea.
    3) Silly Steve Fielding indeed.

  4. 4
    Peter of Marino
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    What exactly is Richardson alleged to have done?

    I understand he was trying to impersonate a politician.

  5. 5
    trawler
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Usually I dismiss these web polls but this one seems on the money:

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/poll/1,,953-5038591-0,00.html

    Sorry if already posted.

  6. 6
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    More on that here, Adam.

    LTEP, if the legislation laid out very particularly the circumstances in which the Governor was to act, which I assume is what they have in mind, the measure need not be any worse than what happens in California. I leave it to your own judgement if you consider that a recommendation.

  7. 7
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    It would give the Governor the ability to make a decision completely based on their own personal opinion

    That would indeed by a bad idea, but I think what he’s suggesting is a US-style recall by petition. In effect it would give the people the power to dissolve Parliament if a certain % signed a petition. The % would have to be set fairly high – 50% perhaps – and there would need to be rigorous signature verification procedures.

  8. 8
    David Charles
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    # 2 A few assumptions in that post, Gary. As you keep reminding everyone, the NSW election is two years away and ‘anything could happen’ (ie. let’s not assume an ALP loss is a ‘given’ or that Barry O’Farrell will be the leader if the Liberal Party does win). The Opposition Leader’s idea is worthy of investigation (to see if it is constitutionally feasible). There will have to be a full and frank debate about it in the general community. And yes, Gary, you are right that any Liberal support for the idea could ‘backfire’ on the party at a future time (remember Nick Greiner and ICAC) but that in itself, does not stop it being a good idea.

  9. 9
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    I just wonder about the impact of Peter Garrett rocking again on the Gen X & Y. Has he locked them sown up for Labor?

  10. 10
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Firstly, David, I only said Barry because he is the leader now. Maybe I should have said the Liberals. Secondly my assumption has been that the Liberals will win the NSW election and has been for sometime now, although ‘anything could happen’. If I were a betting man my money would be fairly and squarely on the Libs though.
    I agree with you when you say it could be a good idea. My post did not say otherwise, just that it could rebound because one day their government probably will eventually go bad and everyone will want their scalps. Have they really thought this through?

  11. 11
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    When did Gen X and Y get the vote? What a bad idea.

  12. 12
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Adam, aren’t you one of them?

  13. 13
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    The real reason it’s a bad idea (recall by petition, I mean) is that it would reinforce short-termism, which is already a serious vice in Australian politics. There are sometimes good reasons why governments need to do things which bring short-term unpopularity for long-term gain. Recall by petition would discourage serious efforts at structural reform and encourage more populist pandering, which we do not need more of.

  14. 14
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    I though I was a baby-boomer. Aren’t Gen X and Y those people with bolts in their tongues?

  15. 15
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Recall eh?

    I don’t like the idea. STill think Rees should fall on his sword ie pass a motion of no confidence in himself and force an election before the Fed is due.

    GB, it should be a slaughter. Maybe lots of others, but still..

  16. 16
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Dont know about Gen X, but Gen Y are those who will not ffff-offf and think home is a 6 star hotel.

  17. 17
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    That’s not how it was with baby-boomers. Then the progression was:
    puberty > grow hair long > become trotskyite / hippy / transvestite / whatever > row with father > leave home.

  18. 18
    Matt C
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    To put it another way, Gen Y have grown up in an era in which the median house costs nearly 8x the median wage, and rents have shot up around 15% per year for each of the past several years.

  19. 19
    Pica
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    trawler, love that poll, I see Bronnie and Ironbar are neck and neck :)

  20. 20
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    row with father > leave home.

    correction:

    row with mother>refuses to leave home

  21. 21
    juliem
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Finnigans 1276 previous thread,

    can you provide a URL for the lineup so I can know when others will be on? (besides Pete & co. bringing up the rear)

    Thanks :)

  22. 22
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    When I left home we rented a four-bedroom house in South Clayton for $25 a week. We paid the rent by doing one night shift each a week at the Wattie-Pict frozen foods factory. That left the rest of the week for trotskyism / hippyism / transvestitism / whateverism.

  23. 23
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Juliem, here it is:

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/03/13/1236447449177.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

    only on the Melb concert. who gives a shirt about the Sydney one.

    Just want to see the Oils and my relo, the Finn brothers in Enz. Yes, six months for Turnbull in a leaky boat.

  24. 24
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    doing one night shift each a week at the Wattie-Pict frozen foods factory

    you are lucky. i was working in an iron foundry.

  25. 25
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    trawler,

    The list of pumchees was a bit limited. They should have just cut and pasted the White Pages.

  26. 26
    juliem
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Finnigans, HELLO …… [ only on the Melb concert. who gives a shirt about the Sydney one.

    ]

    a person after my own heart :-D ……. but we will probably listen to both, mind you when we are home though as we will be out midday to early afternoon ….

    thanks much :)

  27. 27
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Sex on Fire - Kings Of Leon

    Is this the Gen X/Y thingo?

  28. 28
    vera
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Is this petition idea of O’farrell’s the only way he thinks he can get into govt? lol. I thought the Libs are supposed to be unbeatable at the next election? Can’t wait 2 yrs then? Are the worried things might start picking up and the much maligned Rees gets re-elected? ;)
    So in other words peoples’ democratic right to vote in a Labor govt 2 yrs ago should be overturned if the useless opposition party can’t get itself elected by fair means and instead get their lawyers to say who should be in power. We’ll decide who you vote for!!!! Hmm what party is it again that is full of lawyers?

  29. 29
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    doing one night shift each a week at the Wattie-Pict frozen foods factory

    It was a doddle. I slept most of the night, putting in an occasional appearance with a broom. $50, cash in hand, plus all the frozen food you could steal (quite a lot actually). Enough to live for a week and still have change.

  30. 30
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    With any luck Frank Sartor will be premier by then. He’d give the Barrel a run for his money.

  31. 31
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    28 – You make some very good points Vera. I know it’s not the same but it smacks of ‘74 & ‘75 to me.

  32. 32
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Adam,

    Looxury……..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo&feature=related

  33. 33
    Stephen Luntz
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Hang on, so Kym Richardson looks like being charged, along with having some interesting other skeletons in his closet and it turns out the man Trish Draper rorted travel allowance for was a murder suspect. Both were running for the Libs at the state level.

    Don’t the federal Libs have any recently departed federal MPs who aren’t embarrassing they could run. Wait… No. Can’t think of any.

  34. 34
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Wen: China ready to put forward new stimulus package (Xinhua) - BEIJING -- China has prepared plans to cope with even bigger difficulties amid the financial crisis and is ready to put forward new stimulus package at any time, said Premier Wen Jiabao here Friday.

    Wen, while meeting press after the annual parliament session, said China has made long-time preparations to tackle the impact of the international financial crisis. The country has formulated plans to cope with even worse conditions and has reserved plenty of "ammunition", he said.

    "We are ready to put forward new stimulus policies at any time," Wen said.

    "We will provide housing to 7.5 million low-income Chinese in three years, and provide better shelter for 2.4 million Chinese who still live in shacks," the premier said.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009npc/2009-03/13/content_7576028.htm

    The Great Recession with the East is glowing slightly Red. Wen is confident of achieving 8% growth and recovery starts by 2010. If the Chinese can pull this off, it will alter the global geo-political landsacpe. Especially if Obama falters.

  35. 35
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    The Great Recession with the East is glowing slightly Red. Wen is confident of achieving 8% growth and recovery starts by 2010.

    8% is slow for China, it has averaged 10% over the last decade.

  36. 36
    Socrates
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    It is important to understand that China is still going thorugh a period of massive transition, with millions of people moving from peasant lifestyles in the country to paid jobs in the city every year. I saw one estiamte that China’s econmy needs to grow by at least 5% per annum just to soak up this trend (no growth in income for anyone else).

    The Chinese already havea stimulus in place of over $500Bn US, which will make a big difference once it kicks in. Expect they will do better in 2010 off the back of more domestic demand. If they succeed, I agree with Finns; the world will be fundamentally different and China and US will be far more level in economic power.

  37. 37
    PAAPTSEF
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Just want to see the Oils and my relo, the Finn brothers in Enz. Yes, six months for Turnbull in a leaky boat.

    Saw Neil of the Finns last weekend – he’s in fine form.

  38. 38
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Remember when there were serious questions about the Howard Government spending taxpayer money to inappropriately promote the Government and some of their dubious causes? Furthermore, remember how there were suspicions that the Libs were fearthering the nest of their assorted cronies and hangers on?

    We were right!

    http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20090313-Howard-micro-managing-advertising.html

  39. 39
    fredn
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Definitely Wilson, he would do a decent job of it.

  40. 40
    ShowsOn
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    If they succeed, I agree with Finns; the world will be fundamentally different and China and US will be far more level in economic power.

    I don’t think so. It will still be an overwhelmingly poor country. GDP per capita in China is estimated to be US$3000, and predicted to be $10,000 in a decade. GDP per capita in the U.S. is US$40,000, which is one reason it is such a powerful country.

  41. 41
    Bird of paradox
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    LTEP at 3:

    Wouldn’t Ms MacTiernan need to be pretty brave to try to win Canning?

    Brave-ish. It’s currently about 4% to the Libs, but there’s a few reasons to believe it might be winnable and keepable for Labor (though it’ll probably always be a marginal seat). See the WA thread for further info. ;)

  42. 42
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    ABC Radio PM’s story on rising unemployment: quotes from Turnbull, no response from ministers. Hmmm.

  43. 43
    Gary Bruce
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    Don’t worry Adam, Turnbull is seen as a joke anyway. Only the rusted-ons are blaming Labor for the GFC and the job losses.

  44. 44
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Absolutely fantastic article by Bernard Keane on Howard’s advertising rort:
    http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20090313-Howard-micro-managing-advertising.html

  45. 45
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    My comment relates to the issue of ABC bias. It was a clearly one-sided story.

  46. 46
    Glen
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Adam, you’re in government and ahead in the polls even if the ABC are biased which they arent would it really make all that difference???

    BTW will the QLD results be on ABC2???

  47. 47
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Glen as you know I have been sceptical about the allegations of ABC bias here, and I don’t see/hear enough media to make an overall judgement. But a story on unemployment in which the *only* political comment came from Turnbull is cleary a one-sided story.

  48. 48
    Glen
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Adam what about stories where there is only the Government Minister and no rebuttle from the Opposition…these things happen.

    But i do think questions in parliament about where are the 75,000 promised new jobs will be difficult for even Gillard to spin. ;)

  49. 49
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    I wonder how long will it take for criticism to start about Peter Garrett doing the Oils gig while QLD is having the oils pollution. yes, Garrett is responsible for the oils. Oils is oils.

  50. 50
    Glen
    Posted Friday, March 13, 2009 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Finns not as badly as the QLD Minister who was drinking wine at Harvey Bay while all this was going on…

    LOL really the ALP in QLD have only Bligh the rest are duds…

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