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Itchy trigger fingers

Seems Morgan are having one of their occasional weeks off. Plenty of federal preselection action to report, as the parties prepare contingencies for a potential early election:

The Australian’s Michael Owen reports South Australian Labor is finalising its federal preselections, which “senior factional figures” link to a potential early election. Mia Handshin is keen to run again, either in a second tilt at Sturt or where Nicole Cornes failed in Boothby. Cornes herself has found an interesting new line of work as an industrial officer for the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association, but is “unlikely to win preselection”. A “senior ALP figure” nonetheless claims she is a genuine future prospect. Owen also reckons Labor Senator Dana Wortley faces electoral oblivion through “moves to relegate her to an unwinnable third spot”, although it was from that unwinnable position that she actually won her seat in 2004.

• Institute of Public Affairs director John Roskam has withdrawn from the contest to succeed Petrio Georgiou as Liberal candidate for Kooyong. He has thrown his support behind industrial relations lawyer John Pesutto, who looms as a threat to merchant banker Josh Frydenberg’s long-held designs on the seat. Rick Wallace of The Australian reports Pesutto also has the support of Ted Baillieu, who angered the Frydenberg camp by attending a function they “claim was to support Mr Pesutto”. Wallace also notes the June preselection will be “one of the first carried out under the Liberal Party’s new constitution, which empowers all eligible members within a seat to vote instead of only specially chosen delegates”. Andrew Landeryou at VexNews is told that “many of them … will be swinging votes with a history of supporting Baillieu/Petro or at least having a significant amount of affection for them or an in-built objection to the recruiting enthusiasms of Joshua”.

• Another interesting preselection for the Victorian Liberals looms in the eastern suburbs seat of Deakin, where two former members are hoping to make a comeback. One is Phil Barresi, who lost the seat to Labor’s Mike Symon in 2007. The other is Ken Aldred, whose eccentric reign extended from 1990 until his preselection defeat by Barresi in 1996. Aldred won a preselection ballot in Holt ahead of the 2007 election, but it was overturned by wiser heads in the party. Rounding out the field of known contenders is Deanna Ryall, a “local businesswoman”. Labor holds the seat with a margin of 1.4 per cent.

• New Queensland Opposition Leader John-Paul Langbroek foreshadows a more “flexible” approach than his predecessor in negotiating fixed four-year terms, improving the prospects for a referendum on the matter during the current term. Langbroek says it is not a priority, but Anna Bligh has apparently put the matter “on the agenda”. A referendum in 1991 for unfixed four-year terms was defeated with a 51.2 per cent no vote.

Antony Green on the slow death of the election night tally room:

The next South Australian election will be the first conducted without a tallyroom. Both Victoria and NSW have also decided not to hold tallyroms at state elections due in November 2010 and March 2011. These state decisions may yet play a part in deciding whether free to air broadcasters attend the next Federal tallyroom. There were serious noise problems in the tallyroom in 2007, Sky News already bases its coverage from studio, and hosting from a studio would save the ABC and other free-to-air broadcasters considerable amounts of money and allow greater use of studio technology.

• I am maintaining elsewhere progressively updated posts on two looming electoral events: the May 16 Fremantle by-election and May 2 Tasmanian upper house elections.

759 Comments

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  1. 651
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Andrew Rixon sounds like just what the Libs need in one of their blue-riband seats, a complete nutter. I do hope they chose him.

  2. 652
    vera
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    In a question asked at the Rudd and the PNG PM press conference it was said that the WA premier had just stated that his budget would never go into deficit. Is this true and if so is he for real?

  3. 653
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Here is his contact page:
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    To organise your aspartame treatment please contact Andrew by providing your email address in the form above.

    A full treatment will cost AU$50,000

    Andrew will then contact you regarding details and other relevant items regarding your Aspartame treatment.

    I believe Aspartame is the artificial sweetner used in Diet Coke.

  4. 654
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    In a question asked at the Rudd and the PNG PM press conference it was said that the WA premier had just stated that his budget would never go into deficit.

    I guess that means the W.A. premier is going to shut down a heap of schools and hospitals.

  5. 655
    vera
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Or blame it all on Rudd and demand more federal funds

  6. 656
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Scorpio, tread carefully on this topic, if you please.

    Yeah Adam, i was well aware of the potential for that to be misused and was intentionally brief. I just hope that people are responsible and sensible enough to resist that which you fear.

  7. 657
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Or raise taxes to cover the shortfall in revenue.

  8. 658
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    He could also follo0w the path of the Texas Governor and refuse all Federal stimpac money and threaten to succeed from the Commonwealth! lol

  9. 659
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    They already tried that once, in 1933.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secessionism_in_Western_Australia

  10. 660
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Diogs @ 616

    “He’s not writing op-eds in the OO purporting an expertise on AGW”.

    So you think posting here is the second eleven of op ed writers?

  11. 661
    vera
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Someone here said how will the Libs use the flu epidemic against the govt. well their ABC is doing it for them with headlines like this

    Passengers slip through swine flu checks

    When you read the article this statement is what they are basing the headline on

    One passenger on a flight from Los Angeles says no precautions were taken on the flight.
    "It's been on the news probably the last couple of days, but as far as precaution goes, I've seen nothing taken, or nothing had actually been mentioned to any passengers, or even in the US, outside of a little bit in the media," the passenger said.

    The passenger says no announcements were made on the plane when they arrived in Sydney.

    "No, none. No announcements were made by any US airlines or international airlines that I was on," he said.

    Then the last half of the article goes on to show a completely different picture to their headline.

    But another passenger who arrived on a flight from San Francisco, says numerous announcements were made.

    "Yes they made quite a few on the plane and sat there until quarantine people boarded the plane to ask several people questions," she said.

    "It was also noted on press releases in San Francisco a few days ago."

    Another passenger also says he was happy with the processing in Sydney.

    "They made numerous announcements and then when we landed, the quarantine people came on board to see if anyone had any coughs or sniffles," he said.

    "It delayed the coming off the flight, as we all had to sit in our seats and wait for the people to come on board."

    ABC are getting as bad as the Libs with their half truths and misleading headlines.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/28/2554504.htm?section=justin

  12. 662
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    So you think posting here is the second eleven of op ed writers?

    Well, we saw the person who chooses the op ed pieces each day on Q&A a few months ago. She proved herself to be a total dunce who contributed absolutely nothing to the show. So the utter dreck published on those pages isn’t surprising when you get to see the lack of intellectual rigour behind the person who does the selecting.

  13. 663
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Shows On,

    Don’t pout just because they knocked you back.

  14. 664
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Don’t pout just because they knocked you back.

    This hasn’t actually occurred, but if it ever does, I’ll cherish it like a badge of honour.

  15. 665
    Diogenes
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    vera

    I was getting quite nervous that the ABC/Libs hadn’t attacked the response to the flu. Now I can rest easy.

    Bule

    I’ve got a friend who is an intensivist and is on all the CBR committees etc. He says SA is completely unprepared if it really hits the fan. We’re fine as long as it doesn’t get to Mexico City levels though.

  16. 666
    vera
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Diogenes, glad to have been a help, no need to be anxious any longer ;)

  17. 667
    Diogenes
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    If it gets really bad in Mexico, they might be forced to quarantine the whole country to contain the disease and allow it to burn out which could take months. The Ruddster could call an early election thereby getting rid of Heff and BNeal in one move.

  18. 668
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    He says SA is completely unprepared if it really hits the fan.

    I thought the federal government has the stockpile, and will send it out to different states as necessary?

  19. 669
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    What’s an intensivist? Is it someone who is, like, really really intense?

  20. 670
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Diogs,

    Given that there are only a few confirmed diagnoses of the “Swine” flu and that the virus allegedly brought into Australia is similar to what is already around aren’t we going into “Pandemic” tabloid mode rather quickly.

    I remember the good old days when flu was flu. You just caught it, let it run its journey, you recovered and got on with life.

  21. 671
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    I remember the good old days when flu was flu. You just caught it, let it run its journey, you recovered and got on with life.

    Unfortunately H1N1 derivatives have evolved to be a lot nastier than that.

  22. 672
    dogma
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    If only Australian members of the 4th estate (OO) could be honest enough to write about their failures. This assessment was bought on by the ridcule of CNBC and other media’s lack of coverage on the developing GFC.

    http://coloradoindependent.com/27577/business-reporters-confess-news-sins-while-us-economy-collapsed

  23. 673
    bob1234
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Unfortunately H1N1 derivatives have evolved to be a lot nastier than that.

    Not really. The deaths have only been in Mexico and there have been various speculations put forward for that. It does not appear to be all that deadly outside Mexico.

  24. 674
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Shows On,

    Wrong and rejected again. Another badge of honour??

  25. 675
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Loved these two comments on the ABC article.

    Seems the pig virus has transmitted from Liberal politicians to Liberal supporters.

    Truthfully isn't airport precautions for stopping flu carriers getting in a bit like thinking that sticking your head on the back of the seat in front of you or between your knees is going to really protect you from injury in a plane crash? It is what the authorities say to make you think it has all been taken care of . . .

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/28/2554504.htm

  26. 676
    vera
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Anyone who gets off a plane with sniffles and who just has a common old cold will be reported as “suspected of having Swine Flu” by our hysterical media. By the end of the week they’ll be reporting 100s, just wait and see.

  27. 677
    bob1234
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    So much for all the rusted-on Liberals calling Kevin Rudd a socialist…

    MARK COLVIN: Kevin Rudd is fond of attacking what he calls 'neo-liberalism' and 'extreme capitalism', contrasting this with Labor's vision of social democracy.

    But a leading global authority on tax has a message for the Prime Minister: he's running a neo-liberal Government.

    http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2553890.htm

  28. 678
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Has the virus mutated into a form which is only toxic to Mexicans?

  29. 679
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Americans seem impressed with Republican, Senator Collins efforts to block the $900b part of the stimpac. 90 pages of comments so far in just one article panning her.

    Famously, Maine Senator Collins, the supposedly moderate Republican who demanded cuts in health care spending in exchange for her support of a watered-down version of the stimulus, fumed about the pandemic funding: "Does it belong in this bill? Should we have $870 million in this bill No, we should not."

    Even now, Collins continues to use her official website to highlight the fact that she led the fight to strip the pandemic preparedness money out of the Senate's version of the stimulus measure.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/27/gop-stripped-flu-pandemic_n_191732.html

  30. 680
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Has the virus mutated into a form which is only toxic to Mexicans?

    Only “toxic boars”. Kevin Rudd should be careful!

  31. 681
    Kit
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Bob1234, our tax system is still the detritus from Howard’s reign. Only after Rudd’s tax review can we truly say that Rudd is a neo-liberal insofar as tax is concerned. Of course, Rudd will not raise taxes too much, but that’s due not to ideology but politics.

  32. 682
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    scorpio,

    Good avoidance of all the usual cliches. Well done!

  33. 683
    bob1234
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Isn’t it toxic bore?

  34. 684
    Diogenes
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    ShowsOn

    Tamiflu is only a tiny part of “preparedness”. I can’t even find out if it actually works on swine flu, and if so how well.

    It’s more the number of patients who will need hospital beds, ventilators, doctors and nurses. There’s only a handful of people who have been measured up for those wacky masks that definitely stop you getting the flu from patients (those masks you see people wearing don’t do much after about 10 minutes.

    Adam

    An intensivist is an ICU physician.

    GG

    The mortality is 10% in Mexicans, so far. They might not have very good health care so we don’t know what it would be here. This flu IS different from normal flu. It has been killing young, healthy people whereas the normal flu only kills the very young, the very sick or the elderly.

  35. 685
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Not sure whether to laugh, cry or throw up.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/28/opinion/28douthat.html?_r=1&hpw

  36. 686
    juliem
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    667,

    If it gets really bad in Mexico, they might be forced to quarantine the whole country to contain the disease and allow it to burn out which could take months. The Ruddster could call an early election thereby getting rid of Heff and BNeal in one move.

    Obviously I’ve missed a few details on the SF stories. Sounds like some of the MP’s are stuck over there atm?

  37. 687
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Isn’t it toxic bore?

    Not when it involves “swine” flu!

  38. 688
    Socrates
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    No doubt Diog knows more, but wouldn’t the deaths in Mexico and not elsewhere simply be explained by the slower progression rate of influenza compared to other “scarry” viruses like Ebola? Plus they say it seems to be responding to anti-viral drugs. So the non-Mexican cases may not have had time to advance to acute stages yet.

    I thought there was a kind of “trade-off” in virus risk between communicability and chance/speed of your death. Viruses that develop very fast and kill people quickly are less likely to be spread a long way before detection and quarantine. Influenza might kill a far smaller % of victims, but becaues of its two week incubation period it can be spread to a lot more people in the mean time. So the overall death risk is high, because a lot more people get infected. Is that right Diog?

  39. 689
    bob1234
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Tamiflu is only a tiny part of “preparedness”. I can’t even find out if it actually works on swine flu, and if so how well.

    Tamiflu and Relenza work.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_flu_2009

  40. 690
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Diogs,

    Do you have any understanding of “normal” influenza death percentages and the profiles of the victims in Mexico? The information seems to be really scattered and confusing and the reporting is focussing on the pandemic aspect to the exclusion of other relevant facts.

  41. 691
    Diogenes
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Socrates

    As always you are 100% right.

    I should add that I’m NOT making a criticism that we aren’t prepared for a pandemic of swine flu. All these things are based on risk management. To spend an extra $1B on preparedness would almost always be a waste of money as it wouldn’t be needed. And if it really gets bad, the extra $1B would make bugger all difference. The reality is that we can’t afford to be prepared for all disasters and that we just have to play the odds.

  42. 692
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Not sure whether to laugh, cry or throw up.

    Read the article. He is saying that if Cheney feels so strongly that torture was necessary, he should’ve been willing to defend that policy at an election.

    Tamiflu is only a tiny part of “preparedness”. I can’t even find out if it actually works on swine flu, and if so how well.

    I thought Tamiflu was effective against all H1N1 variants, because it acts against the neuraminidase section of the virus (the N part in H1N1), which very rarely undergoes beneficial mutation? My year 12 biology understanding is that it deactivates the enzyme that allows copies of the virus to break out of cells.

  43. 693
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    A good explanation here of why the virus has been causing more problems with younger, healthy people. Also it appears that flue injections “may” provide some degree of protection against this strain.

    many of the initial victims were young and healthy.

    Dr Urrutia says that may be because the national flu vaccination program only covers babies, children and the elderly.

    "Vaccinations are only used during certain periods of people's lives," she said.

    "The first few months and years and the very old - that's why the adolescents and those between 20 and 40 years old are the ones getting sick. They weren't part of any vaccination program.

    "And even though that flu vaccine isn't specific to this virus, it does have certain effectiveness to protect against it."

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/28/2554815.htm?section=australia

  44. 694
    The Finnigans
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    This new GFC, it’s all the Neocon conspiracy. Not content with inflicting the world with the old GFC with their extreme unchecked capitalism, now the Neocon is inflicting the world with a new GFC (Great Flu Crisis). Especially to deflect the criticisms about the release of the torture memos. It’s all linked back to that great Unknown Unknown Known Known:

    In a 'Holy convenience, Batman!' moment, a 'unique' flu virus (one likely concocted in US Army labs) overtakes media coverage of revelations that the highest levels of the US government instructed the CIA (and private contractors) to torture terror suspects.

    Scientists said the virus combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers have not seen before. "We are very, very concerned," World Health Organization spokesman Thomas Abraham said. "We have what appears to be a novel virus and it has spread from human to human," he said. "It's all hands on deck at the moment."

    Rumsfeld's growing stake in Tamiflu --Defense Secretary, ex-chairman of flu treatment rights holder, sees portfolio value growing. 31 Oct 2005 The prospect of a bird flu outbreak may be panicking people around the globe, but it's proving to be very good news for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other politically connected investors in Gilead Sciences, the California biotech company that owns the rights to Tamiflu, the influenza remedy that's now the most-sought after drug in the world. Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)'s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.

    http://greenpagan.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/27/2737925-flu-kills-the-torture-memos-rumsfeld-tamiflu-bioterror-genocide-etc

    Yes, how convenience also that it “started” Mexhiho so the poor amigos can be blamed, again, for everything. The Amigos are NOT happy.

  45. 695
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    flue injections

    Ouch! I would hate to be injected with a “stove pipe” although sometimes the needles feel almost as big as that.

  46. 696
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    The Finnigans @ 694, LOL

  47. 697
    Diogenes
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    bob and GG

    I’ll look into that and talk to the ICU friend, who has dropped the ball completely on this one because he’s more interested in negotiating an acrimonious hospital contract.

    Tamiflu can only be said to work once the data is in on the swine flu and it’s too early to say that ATM although it looks like it should work.

  48. 698
    Socrates
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    The Wikipedia article on Influenza is quite good. It suggests mortality rates for different strains of Influenza, whihc have varied greatly in Lethality. There are also a lot of measurement difficulties, because its hard ot estiamte how many of the population who aren’t medically treated contracted a disease. Here are some stats:

    1918 Spanish Flu – 2% to 20% (including over 10% in young adults)
    Usual Flu mortality – 0.1% (mostly the old and very young)

    Also the mortality rate varies with treatment. The 1918 flu was 9% lethal to white British army officers, but 21% lethal to indian British soldiers (who got less treatment).

    So if the Spanish one is killing 10% of hospitalised patients, that is pretty severe.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_outbreak_in_Mexico
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_pandemic

    Dio, I know the quality of Wikipedia varies, please tell if any of the above is rubbish.

  49. 699
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    A good test is to see if it mentions Lyndon LaRouche anywhere.

  50. 700
    scorpio
    Posted Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Don’t you just love him?????

    Queensland senator Barnaby Joyce said if the virus got out of control Federal Parliament should be postponed.

    "If swine flu proves to be virulent beyond current reports ... it would be peculiar in the extreme to march politicians from all over the nation into one building to cough and splutter on each other before sending them back to their local electorates to return the favour to the public," Senator Joyce said.

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