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Budget minus three days

No Morgan poll this week – in a half-baked attempt to tie the headline to the post, here’s a link to an analysis by Possum posing the question, “is there a polling budget effect?” (short answer: no). With that out of the way:

Greg Roberts of The Australian reports on the demise of a Queensland Coalition deal in which Barnaby Joyce was to move to the lower house and Liberal Senator Russell Trood was to maintain the existing balance in the Senate by joining the Nationals. The Liberals’ end of the deal was reportedly vetoed by federal Liberal president Alan Stockdale, prompting Joyce to angrily declare he would not be moving from the Senate. Trood’s factional ally, former state Liberal president Bob Carroll, says he would stake his life on Trood never agreeing to sit in the Nationals rather than the Liberal party room. This would seem to be a pretty big call, given that Trood’s alternative is to stay in the surely unwinnable fourth position on the Liberal National ticket.

• Fans of factional argybargy can unearth a motherlode of detail on Labor’s western Melbourne fiefdoms from the Victorian Ombudsman’s report into Brimbank City Council. Among the matters examined is the highly fraught preselection for last year’s Kororoit by-election, with the Ombudsman recommending an investigation into a possible breach of the Local Government Act by failed aspirant and former mayor Natalie Suleyman. It is alleged that a funding decision for a sports ground redevelopment was influenced by a desire to win the support of Keilor MP and Right powerbroker George Seitz, and that efforts were made to withdraw the funding when Seitz failed to come through.

Peter Kennedy of the ABC notes that preselection nominations for federal Liberal seats in WA close in less than three weeks, so those gunning for the removal of Pearce MP Judi Moylan and O’Connor MP Wilson Tuckey don’t have long to get their act together. Matt Brown tells Kennedy he hasn’t made up his mind whether to launch a second challenge against Dennis Jensen in Tangney, although jockeying in local branches suggests otherwise.

Bernard Keane of Crikey reports that Bronwyn Bishop’s hold on the larger branches in her electorate of Mackellar has “slipped”. One of the potential challengers, believe it or not, is former state Opposition Leader John Brogden. Another is a blast from an even more distant past – Jim Longley, who preceded Brogden as member for the local state seat of Pittwater.

• Western Australia’s minority Liberal-National government lost a vote in the Legislative Assembly on Wednesday, which I believe to be the first defeat for a government there in 17 years. At issue was a highly contentious bill to replace preferential voting at local government elections with first-past-the-post. However, the defeat resulted from the absence of four ministers from the chamber, and the bill was passed on a second attempt later in the day. The subject of the bill itself is obviously worth discussion, which I will attend to eventually. For whatever reason, the seemingly retrograde measure has the support of the Western Australian Local Government Association.

• A report by the Youth Electoral Study for the Australian Electoral Commission finds 20 per cent of youths aged 18 to 25 are not enrolled to vote, and “close to half” wouldn’t vote if it wasn’t compulsory. Those who went to private schools or were subjected to civics classes were somewhat more enthusiastic.

• You might recall some chat last month about a looming referendum on the introduction of a Hare-Clark style electoral system in the Canadian province of British Columbia. Well, that’s happening on Tuesday.

• Possum’s favourite word, “spiffy”, doesn’t do justice to his infographic electoral demographic displays.

• If it’s analysis of major party submissions for the federal redistribution in New South Wales you’re after, Ben Raue of The Tally Room is unequivocally your man.

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  1. 551
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Stock and Land. :)

    http://sl.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/political/nats-fight-libs-antirural-seat-redistribution/1508155.aspx?storypage=0

    THE federal Nationals will stand alone from the Liberals on more and more policy issues and increasingly vote separately from them as the business relationship deteriorates in the wake of the Liberals' "anti-regional" boundary redistribution submission.

    National party executives and MPs are furious the Liberal submission proposes the abolition of the southern NSW seat of Riverina, held by The Nationals' Kay Hull, be merged predominantly with the Liberal-held electorate of Hume, to make a new big southern seat known as "Bradman".

    The Nats still seem to think they are relevant. ;)

  2. 552
    Diogenes
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Barnaby says he will support the budget until Rudd goes insane. :evil:

    [Senator Joyce says the vast majority of the Government's Budget will be passed, but the Nationals will draw the line at excessive debt.

    "If they come back with a ridiculous extension [of] where the debt is, then I believe the Australian people will scream at us and they’ll just say stop, stop it, lock up the cheque book, get away from it, you are insane,” he said.]

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/11/2566897.htm?section=justin

  3. 553
    Dario
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Barnaby says he will support the budget until Rudd goes insane

    He’s certainly the expert on insanity…

  4. 554
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    The problem for Turnbull is that if the Nats split from the coalition a number of Libs might go along just for the ride.

  5. 555
    scorpio
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Did anyone else see the add on the channel 7 news starring Barnaby and Mr X.

    I thought I had seen everything, but was horribly mistaken. lol

  6. 556
    Glen
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Rua we were able to govern well from 1996-2004 without a Senate majority. The ALP were often there to support our legislation.

    We didnt often deal with the Greens.

  7. 557
    Centre
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    If the Nationals will not support any ETS, where will that leave Turnbull?

    Hanging by the ceiling in his undies in the Green Room of Parliament House LOL.

  8. 558
    bob1234
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    National party executives and MPs are furious the Liberal submission proposes the abolition of the southern NSW seat of Riverina, held by The Nationals' Kay Hull, be merged predominantly with the Liberal-held electorate of Hume, to make a new big southern seat known as "Bradman".

    What the? Bloody Liberals. Why get rid of two original federation divisions? Tools.

  9. 559
    Oz
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Rua we were able to govern well

    No you were not.

  10. 560
    bob1234
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Rua we were able to govern well from 1996-2004 without a Senate majority.

    Thank the Democrats Glen.

    But it’s still an unknown how well a sole Green balance of power Senate would function. I’m sure things would be almost if not just as difficult if the current BOP was Democrats-Fielding-Xenophon.

  11. 561
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Rua we were able to govern well

    bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *breath* hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  12. 562
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Scorpio,

    “Did anyone else see the add on the channel 7 news starring Barnaby and Mr X.”

    Which was the organ grinder and which was the monkey?

  13. 563
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    The ALP were often there to support our legislation.

    Sounds sensible. Any chance of the Libs being sensible any time soon?

  14. 564
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Glen

    You are correct, most Govts. get the majority of their legislation passed with opposition party support.

    If the unthinkable happens and the Libs win an election in the next decade, who cares what the National’s policy is? ;)

  15. 565
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Which was the organ grinder and which was the monkey?

    And who was throwing the peanuts?

  16. 566
    Diogenes
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Scorpio

    Who’s paying for that stupid ad? I hope it’s not the taxpayer. Of all the things for Mr X to make an ad about, I can’t think of a dumber one.

  17. 567
    Andrew
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    C’mon william, i want my 61/39 header!!!

  18. 568
    Glen
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Essential Research is not credible.

  19. 569
    Centre
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Poppycock

  20. 570
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    X and the Senator for Regional Qld are mates.

    Maybe Felix and Oscar should be their new names. :P

  21. 571
    bob1234
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Essential Research is not credible.

    But the swings are.

  22. 572
    scorpio
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Diogenes @ 566,

    That’s an interesting question you pose there. The add was very professionally done and in “prime time” so wouldn’t have been cheap. (certainly not peanuts)

  23. 573
    bob1234
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25463003-26103,00.html

    THE federal Budget will reveal a deficit of $58 billion, Channel 7 is reporting.

    Seven said the $58 billion figure was official.

  24. 574
    Olivia Cunningham
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    How many original Federation electorates are left?

    Is it down to single digits yet?

  25. 575
    scorpio
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Oscar and Lucinda. To get married on a boat moored in Lake Ayre.

  26. 576
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    The X and B ads were, funded by Optical Superstore founder Ian Melrose.

  27. 577
    Winston
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Glen @ 568

    Please explain.

  28. 578
    Oz
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Seven said the $58 billion figure was official.

    The first budget leak to a TV station!

    $58 billions is pretty much what people were expecting. Most of the speculation was on $50-60 billion.

  29. 579
    Thomas
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    As Glen says in one of his comments Essential research is very much necessary but it should be more kind of credible.

    Thomas

    real estate

  30. 580
    vera
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    PolyQuats, I didn’t say everyone would get a bonus payment, I was refering to the people making comments in Gary’s article link who were complaining about not getting something in both Stimpacs.
    eg [Self-funded retiree Stuart Robley received a bonus about Christmas time but was disappointed he would not receive anything in the current package.]
    My sister also says she misses out as she is a self funded retiree, she put in a tax form for the medicare levy but didn’t actually pay tax.

  31. 581
    Oz
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Who do we think will be on the 7:30 Report?

  32. 582
    ShowsOn
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    Who do we think will be on the 7:30 Report?

    Hockey probably, considering that Swan will be interviewed tomorrow night.

  33. 583
    polyquats
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Winston @577

    Glen @ 568 Please explain.

    He means he doesn’t like the figures.

  34. 584
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Please, please. I hope the avuncular one is on 7.30 tonight. I love his blaming the media for Rudd’s popularity line. :)

  35. 585
    Oz
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    The government is re-introducing the alcopops legislation tomorrow morning.

    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/govt-tries-again-on-alcopops-laws-20090511-b0gl.html

    Judging by the article it appears there will be two separate pieces of legislation – one will be the same as last time for a 70% increase on RTD’s and the other will be to validate the previous months tax.

    Bit weird they’re introducing it now – surely the next few days and weeks are going to be completely dominated by other budget measures. Unless, of course, they expect it to be delayed for another month or so and to get to the 3 months they need for a DD.

  36. 586
    Andrew
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Hockey has become unwatchable (maybe he always was). He has totally lost that Sunrise nice guy persona and is now presenting as bitter twisted and nasty. Bring him on as opposition leader!! Cmon Newspoll, give us a question on it!!

  37. 587
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Oz,

    I believe they will have to pay the tax collected back if the legislation to hold onto it is not passed this week.

    I presume splitting the legislation enables the Government to play the same game again this year.

  38. 588
    Oz
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    I believe they will have to pay the tax collected back if the legislation to hold onto it is not passed this week.

    Ah ok, makes sense.

  39. 589
    Diogenes
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    The X and B ads were, funded by Optical Superstore founder Ian Melrose.

    Why would he do that? What’s his agenda?

  40. 590
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Diogs,

    Myopia for all.

  41. 591
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    Why would he do that? What’s his agenda?

    He’s got bucks, his prerogative to spend them on whatever he likes? X and B seem to agree that foreign ownership is bad. Tossers. :P

  42. 592
    Oz
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    It appears he has a history of funding ads for things that he has an interest in.

    http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1290338.htm

    Ian Melrose paid around $30,000 for a 30-second television commercial, which received maximum exposure during last night's Australian Open men's quarter finals. The ad claims the Federal Government has stolen $2 billion in revenue from the East Timorese.

    http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/ian-melrose-fantastic-advert-regional-human-rights-abuses

  43. 593
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    How many original Federation electorates are left?

    Wentworth, Parramatta, North Sydney, Robertson, Werriwa, Macquarie, Newcastle, Hunter, Cowper, Richmond, New England, Hume, Eden-Monaro

    Melbourne, Melbourne Ports, Kooyong, Flinders, Gippsland, Indi, Ballarat, Bendigo, Corio, Corangamite, Wannon

    Brisbane, Moreton, Wide Bay, Capricornia, Herbert, Kennedy, Maranoa

    Perth, Fremantle, Swan, Kalgoorlie

    (1903) Adelaide, Hindmarsh, Barker, Wakefield, Grey

    (1903) Denison, Franklin, Bass

  44. 594
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    I’m guessing next week we’ll get a couple polls – even Nielson per chance? Does Galaxy only come out to play in election periods?

  45. 595
    scorpio
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Wilson Tuckey trying to hang onto his job.

    Yet we are urged by anonymous business leaders to replace older and more experienced MPs with those of a younger age.

    It would appear to me they might better serve Australia by withholding such advice and offering their services to the Australian people by seeking preselection to win a seat in parliament, whatever their political leaning.

    Were they, say, as in my case, aged 45 with 25 years of previous successful personal business and life skills experience, including 16 years of volunteer local government service, they should be ready to provide the management our nation requires.

    Having presumably seen their children through university and accumulated some investments, they should be able to survive on the very limited remuneration the Australian people are prepared to pay politicians, and which is only otherwise attractive to those younger persons whose long-term employment prospects would not provide an income in, say, excess of $50,000 to $70,000 a year. They are often to be found in the rear offices of the trade union movement and the parliamentary offices of some serving MPs.

    Such persons are well trained in the art of politics but deficient in the area of business management that the nation requires.

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25457602-7583,00.html

  46. 596
    Posted Monday, May 11, 2009 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    New thread.

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