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	<title>Comments on: Newspoll: 56-44 to Labor in South Australia</title>
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		<title>By: bob1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 11:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um...

[gives Labor the chance to start work on the new RAH site before the election, thus negating the Opposition&#039;s attempts to put forward its plans to redevelop the existing RAH site.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>gives Labor the chance to start work on the new RAH site before the election, thus negating the Opposition's attempts to put forward its plans to redevelop the existing RAH site.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Diogenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 07:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bob

Labor won&#039;t start the new cancer centre until after the election. If they started it now, all their promises of a referendum and a RAH election campaign will be scuttled. The Libs will just whip up anger by saying &quot;They are spending the money as if they have already won&quot; etc etc. They don&#039;t have nearly enough time anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob</p>
<p>Labor won&#8217;t start the new cancer centre until after the election. If they started it now, all their promises of a referendum and a RAH election campaign will be scuttled. The Libs will just whip up anger by saying &#8220;They are spending the money as if they have already won&#8221; etc etc. They don&#8217;t have nearly enough time anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: bob1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to evade the issue! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to evade the issue! <img src='http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-raspberry.png' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Diogenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bob

They&#039;d better build the bloody thing. We&#039;ve just expanded our offices and they offered me a few choices so I chose the one with a view directly out over the New RAH site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob</p>
<p>They&#8217;d better build the bloody thing. We&#8217;ve just expanded our offices and they offered me a few choices so I chose the one with a view directly out over the New RAH site.</p>
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		<title>By: bob1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one for Diogenes:

[The funding for the cancer research institute gives Labor the chance to start work on the new RAH site before the election, thus negating the Opposition&#039;s attempts to put forward its plans to redevelop the existing RAH site. 

No longer will this election be a referendum on a new hospital versus a redeveloped one, or a new sports stadium in the city. ]

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25490770-5018929,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one for Diogenes:</p>
<blockquote><p>The funding for the cancer research institute gives Labor the chance to start work on the new RAH site before the election, thus negating the Opposition's attempts to put forward its plans to redevelop the existing RAH site. </p>
<p>No longer will this election be a referendum on a new hospital versus a redeveloped one, or a new sports stadium in the city. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25490770-5018929,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25490770-5018929,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: bob1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What i&#039;m interested to know is how the redistribution will affect things, especially in the eastern suburb electorates that have been pushed in to the hills areas. We all know the calculated margins are very theoretical.


Pre-redistrib: http://www.ecsa.sa.gov.au/apps/news/?sectionID=6&amp;pageID=259

Post-redistrib:
Metro: http://www.ecsa.sa.gov.au/apps/uploadedFiles/news/465/Electoral_Districts_-_Metropolitan_Area.pdf
Rural: http://www.ecsa.sa.gov.au/apps/uploadedFiles/news/466/Electoral_Districts_-_Country_Region.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What i&#8217;m interested to know is how the redistribution will affect things, especially in the eastern suburb electorates that have been pushed in to the hills areas. We all know the calculated margins are very theoretical.</p>
<p>Pre-redistrib: <a href="http://www.ecsa.sa.gov.au/apps/news/?sectionID=6&amp;pageID=259" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecsa.sa.gov.au/apps/news/?sectionID=6&amp;pageID=259</a></p>
<p>Post-redistrib:<br />
Metro: <a href="http://www.ecsa.sa.gov.au/apps/uploadedFiles/news/465/Electoral_Districts_-_Metropolitan_Area.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecsa.sa.gov.au/apps/uploadedFiles/news/465/Electoral_Districts_-_Metropolitan_Area.pdf</a><br />
Rural: <a href="http://www.ecsa.sa.gov.au/apps/uploadedFiles/news/466/Electoral_Districts_-_Country_Region.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecsa.sa.gov.au/apps/uploadedFiles/news/466/Electoral_Districts_-_Country_Region.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 08:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Green member and I think it will take 50 years at least. Although thats very optimistic. More like 70 and we would not make government by then. Except maybe is TAS and ACT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Green member and I think it will take 50 years at least. Although thats very optimistic. More like 70 and we would not make government by then. Except maybe is TAS and ACT.</p>
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		<title>By: bob1234</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/05/21/newspoll-56-44-to-labor-in-south-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-278068</link>
		<dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[It might take 20 years, but I suspect a time will come when Labor will be the “conservative” party and the Greens will be the second party, with the Libs relegated to a rump.]

I vote Green then Labor, and even I think this is wishful thinking on the part of the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It might take 20 years, but I suspect a time will come when Labor will be the “conservative” party and the Greens will be the second party, with the Libs relegated to a rump.</p></blockquote>
<p>I vote Green then Labor, and even I think this is wishful thinking on the part of the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 21:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the lack of young Liberal supportors. However, there are still plent of young Liberals, as well as young people who become Liberal supporters when they get older.

From my experience in Uni and local campaigning, this is how I&#039;d break down youth support.

Members/active supporters: Greens 40%, ALP 50% Libs 8-9%.The rest support either FF or Socialists.

For passive support I&#039;d take about 5% from the Greens, add 3 to the ALP and 2 to the Libs. Most of the others are swing voters.

Thats just personal observation though. It obviously depends where you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the lack of young Liberal supportors. However, there are still plent of young Liberals, as well as young people who become Liberal supporters when they get older.</p>
<p>From my experience in Uni and local campaigning, this is how I&#8217;d break down youth support.</p>
<p>Members/active supporters: Greens 40%, ALP 50% Libs 8-9%.The rest support either FF or Socialists.</p>
<p>For passive support I&#8217;d take about 5% from the Greens, add 3 to the ALP and 2 to the Libs. Most of the others are swing voters.</p>
<p>Thats just personal observation though. It obviously depends where you are.</p>
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		<title>By: chinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>chinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Greens have taken over from the Democrats as the partie de jour in all those Adelaide Hills seats, populated - as Alexander Downer succinctly put it - by &quot;lefts, greens, ferals and the like&quot;.

Way to respect your constituents, Lecky - no wonder they were so keen to see the back of you.

Anyway, the Green/left vote continues to rise in these seats, so I do think it is only a matter of time before The Greens put up an excellent, high profile candidate and then it will be on for young and old.  And I think that once one seat falls, others will follow.  It might take 20 years, but I suspect a time will come when Labor will be the &quot;conservative&quot; party and the Greens will be the second party, with the Libs relegated to a rump.  

Possum did a very good demographic analysis on the subject last year some time, which showed the dyed-in-the-wool Liberals dropping off the twig (due to old age) and a distinct lack of young people coming through to replace them.  At least the Labor Party (and the Greens in particular) have young members, and therefore have a half-decent chance of being around in 50 years.  The Libs, on the other hand ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Greens have taken over from the Democrats as the partie de jour in all those Adelaide Hills seats, populated &#8211; as Alexander Downer succinctly put it &#8211; by &#8220;lefts, greens, ferals and the like&#8221;.</p>
<p>Way to respect your constituents, Lecky &#8211; no wonder they were so keen to see the back of you.</p>
<p>Anyway, the Green/left vote continues to rise in these seats, so I do think it is only a matter of time before The Greens put up an excellent, high profile candidate and then it will be on for young and old.  And I think that once one seat falls, others will follow.  It might take 20 years, but I suspect a time will come when Labor will be the &#8220;conservative&#8221; party and the Greens will be the second party, with the Libs relegated to a rump.  </p>
<p>Possum did a very good demographic analysis on the subject last year some time, which showed the dyed-in-the-wool Liberals dropping off the twig (due to old age) and a distinct lack of young people coming through to replace them.  At least the Labor Party (and the Greens in particular) have young members, and therefore have a half-decent chance of being around in 50 years.  The Libs, on the other hand &#8230;</p>
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