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Essential Research: 59-41

The latest weekly Essential Research survey has Labor’s two-party lead narrowing from 62-38 to 59-41. There are also interesting breakdowns on attitudes to the budget and the retirement age by employment and self-identified social class: office workers think the higher retirement age fair, tradesmen and manual labourers very much the opposite, while class reaction to the budget is how you would traditionally expect with Labor in power. The survey also finds the public slightly more receptive to a senior role for Peter Costello than they were three months ago.

Other news:

• Two challengers have emerged against incumbent Dennis Jensen in the Liberal preselection for Tangney – neither of whom is Matt Brown, who defeated Jensen in the local vote ahead of the 2007 election only to have the result overturned on the intervention of John Howard. Andrew Probyn of The West Australian reports the conteders are Alcoa government relations and public policy manager Libby Lyons, last seen angling for the state seat of Nedlands (and apparently the granddaughter of Joseph Lyons), and Toyota Finance executive Glenn Piggott.

• The ABC reports that Tasmanian David Bartlett has “reconsidered” his original proposal for fixed elections on March 20 after “consultation with key stakeholders”, which hopefully includes Antony Green (the move would have set up a permanent clash with elections in South Australia). He instead proposes to allow a future Premier “flexibility” within a three-month period, similar to what Colin Barnett is advocating in Western Australia. An draft that was being circulated for consultation early in the year allowed for early Legislative Assembly elections if the Legislative Council so much as blocked a bill the Assembly deemed to be “significant”, and provided for an Assembly election in the event of a no-confidence motion or if the Council blocked supply.

• Staying in Tasmania, David Bartlett helpfully puts out a press release each time a Labor candidate is nominated for next year’s state election – the latest being Franklin candidate Kate Churchill, whose role as operations manager of Colony 47 would appear to make her a community organiser in the Barack Obama mould.

Andrew Landeryou at Vex News runs a scan of an Australian Financial Review report that the Labor national executive “may be asked to run preselections for state seats in the western suburbs of Melbourne to try to defuse factional tensions before the election next year”. As Landeryou puts it, “Some say this is code for a cross-factional and multi-sub-factional agreement that the member for Keilor George Seitz be encouraged to retire”, following the state Ombudsman’s recent probings into Brimbank City Council and their bearing on the state preselection for the 2008 Kororoit by-election. Landeryou raises his eyebrows at the assertion that the arrangement’s backers, said to include Kim Carr of the Left and Bill Shorten of the Right, want preselection for Brendan O’Connor’s federal seat of Gorton taken out of local hands, as there as been no suggestion he might be troubled.

• Writing in The Australian’s weekly State of the Nation wrap-up of state politics, Imre Salusinszky returns to a favourite theme: the unlikelihood of an early federal election given the need for “mini-redistributions” if the redistributions for New South Wales and Queensland are yet to be finalised. In particular, he notes that a mini-redistribution would have to create three Coalition seats from two (Fadden and Moncrieff) in Queensland, while merging two Labor seats (Sydney and Lowe) in New South Wales – as well as giving the Coalition a stick with which to beat Labor for calling an election under such inopportune circumstances.

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  1. 1851
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    Rudd had better be on his toes lest he do a Gordon Brown in PMQ lol.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5stftd5qv3M

  2. 1852
    juliem
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    Gus, Jenkins needs hazardous duty pay :grin:

  3. 1853
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps Turnbull is so frightened of upsetting the applecart that he feels that he cannot tack the risk of dumping Coonan.

    It would be a bit odd if he only did her in when there are couple of other Opposition competitors for the title of ‘Complete Waste of Taxpayer’s Money’.

  4. 1854
    Generic Person (Prime Elephant of Australia)
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    No 1850

    Coalition ministers don’t believe in spending an egregious amount of money without so much as a cost-benefit analysis. They also don’t believe in providing things the private sector is perfectly able to.

    It is also not the Government’s job to keep broadband prices low.

  5. 1855
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Or we could have a Musical Question time ala Wayne and Schuster :-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OwUW5_7N94

  6. 1856
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    I haven’t seen Keenan come close to landing a blow on Gillard yet. Dutton’s performance on alcopops was abysmal, but that’s probably not his fault. You should promote Senator Cormann, too, he seems quite smart (if you don’t mind his German accent).

  7. 1857
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Why stop at adopting Brit QT? Their system of MP rorting seems to be somewhat more satisfying as well. My fav was the 1600 pound duck house. The spruiker of same assured the BBC that the duck houses work. Ducks like to breed in them. This puts some of the rort spending ahead of some other Government spending.

  8. 1858
    Generic Person (Prime Elephant of Australia)
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    No 1851

    Glen, the problem is that Rudd actually believes he saved the world. :D

  9. 1859
    Gusface
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    Gus, Jenkins needs hazardous duty pay

    Sometimes i yell at the teev and tell him he should kick the lot out and have em scrub the streets, the scrubbers

    But then, he sits,zen like, and gives a little smile and brings calm to proceedings.

    I personally think the speakers job is the hardest, in a well run and fair parliament.

    To wit

    “Enemy of all
    friend of none
    until my job is done”
    C 2009

  10. 1860
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    GP

    You may have been o/s and missed it but there was a certain $10billion Water Package that was done on the back of an envelope, apparently egregiously.

  11. 1861
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    True GP lol

    That’s not his job Adam his job is to keep a low profile and not antagonise her or make IR an issue and he’s been successful.

  12. 1862
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    a propos an earlier discussion on MPs employing rellies, Kirkbride has just indicated that she will not be standing for the next election. She genuinely thought she did not wrong but apparently employing her sister or some other nepotic is now electoral poison.

  13. 1863
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    Coalition ministers don’t believe in spending an egregious amount of money without so much as a cost-benefit analysis.

    Show me a cost / benefit analysis for the introduction of television into Australia.

    Or even better, show us the cost / benefit analysis for the Alice to Darwin rail way. Of course you can’t because that is a completely unprofitable railway line!

    They also don’t believe in providing things the private sector is perfectly able to.

    If the private sector alone was willing to build an NBN, it would’ve already done it.

    Instead, we need a government to pay for some of it, you know, like the telephone, electricity, sewer, water, gas, and road and rail networks.

    Typical Liberal that has absolutely no idea of the concept of public good.

  14. 1864
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    Makes me weep seeing David Cameron’s performance in QT and comparing that with what we have with Malcolm Turnbull :(

  15. 1865
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    That railway is a public bad.

  16. 1866
    Generic Person (Prime Elephant of Australia)
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    No 1865

    So is broadband to unprofitable areas.

  17. 1867
    PAAPTSEF
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    It was nice of Pyne to conditionally accept the precedent set in 2006 by his own speaker until he has a bit more time to think about it.

  18. 1868
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    That’s not his job Adam his job is to keep a low profile and not antagonise her or make IR an issue and he’s been successful.

    What a tribute to Gillard that a “successful” shadow minister is one who can keep out of her way! May you have many more such successful shadows, Glen! Why not just leave a set of potted palms on the Oppo benches and go on holidays until Kevin, Julia, Wayne and Lindsay have all retired?

  19. 1869
    juliem
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Boerwar 1853, I would actually WORRY about Turnbull if he got up the nerve to chuck one of his front bench (as opposed to shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic)(and the higher profile the person, the more I would be concerned). If he’s suddenly developed a backbone, then he’s become dangerous and an unknown quantity to the ALP as opposed to the present version which we know well as someone who has no courage and nerve ;-)

  20. 1870
    evan14
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Coonan is awful, but that’s pretty much describes the entire Liberal front bench.

  21. 1871
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    juliem
    Krool. But you never know. He might do a last weekend’s Laidley.

  22. 1872
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    So is broadband to unprofitable areas.

    Try telling that to the Nationals who are whinging at only getting Wireless rather than Fibre to areas with less than a 1000 residents ?

  23. 1873
    evan14
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    And does anyone else stand up in parliament for more useless points of order than Chris Pyne?

  24. 1874
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    GP
    I am very curious. Is the ‘Prime Elephant’ a reference to the matriarchal structure of elephant society?

  25. 1875
    Oz
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Treasury is backing Swan because Swan is the Treasurer and it’s their job.

  26. 1876
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Anyway Dutton and Keenan will both be very lucky to be in the next Parliament. Unless Dutton gets a good redistribution he will in grave danger in Dickson. And with Carpenter gone there will probably be some sort of swing back to Labor in WA, which will keep Keenan busy hanging onto Stirling.

  27. 1877
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    1873…Tuckey?

  28. 1878
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

    Frank

    I agree. If someone really wanted to tell them something, they could always try telling the Nats over the phone.

  29. 1879
    Gusface
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

    GP
    I am very curious. Is the ‘Prime Elephant’ a reference to the matriarchal structure of elephant society?

    I believe it is a reference to size of brain versus bodymass

  30. 1880
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Psephos
    A propos serial parliamentary bad boys/girls… what is the longest time anyone has ever been kicked out for?

  31. 1881
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Well, Hugh Mahon was actually expelled in 1921.
    But apart from that, I don’t know. Someone was kicked out for a week last year, but I forget who. (Two namings in a week gets you a week in the bin.)

  32. 1882
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    So is broadband to unprofitable areas.

    It is unprofitable to post a letter to region and remote areas! But since it is so cheap for Australia Post to send mail between capital cities, they are able to cross subsidise packages being sent to remote and rural areas for the same stamp price.

  33. 1883
    Generic Person (Prime Elephant of Australia)
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    No 1870

    Rubbish. The most awful senator in the history of the parliament is Senator Conroy.

  34. 1884
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    Psephos
    Thanks.

  35. 1885
    evan14
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    There ought to be a swing back to Labor in WA next time, so that’d make Swan, Cowan and Canning possible gains for Rudd, to off set a few losses elsewhere(Robertson, Dawson, Corangamite?).

  36. 1886
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    GP

    If it isn’t the martriarchal elephant thing is it just another cultural accretion? Are you really the sensitive face of Rush?

  37. 1887
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    Shows On

    I am confused. Are you arguing, in line with GP, that posting a letter to Armata is a public bad?

  38. 1888
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    I don’t see why Dawson would be at risk. I expect a further swing to Labor in Qld. We southern cynics may find Bidgood’s religious views weird but in North Qld weird religious views are probably a plus. They like eccentrics up there.

    Corangamite is rapidly filling up with Labor voters as Geelong expands southward and the Surf Coast towns grow. On these boundaries it will get steadily better for Labor.

    I have no comment on Robertson.

  39. 1889
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    Deakin too Evan…
    I think at worst we’ll lose Cowan and Swan.
    With a 2 termer in Stirling if he’s been a good local member he should hold on after all he got a .1% swing against him in the Ruddslide of 07.

  40. 1890
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    I am confused. Are you arguing, in line with GP, that posting a letter to Armata is a public bad?

    No, I am pointing that that some aspects of a public good – like a postal or telephone network – may not be profitable, but the really profitable parts more than compensate for the parts that never turn a profit. The same deal would apply for a national broadband network.

    But of course, G.P. thinks that we should have an NBN network in areas that are profitable (e.g. inner metro areas) and no NBN network in areas that may not be profitable for many years, if ever.

    To be consistent G.P. would have to propose shutting down the postal network in areas that aren’t profitable.

  41. 1891
    juliem
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    Astrobleme and Bird of Paradox;

    in case you didn’t see yet in the sports section, Cousins was named in Richmond’s team so Harvey’s promise to sic Stephen Hill on him will come to pass :grin:

  42. 1892
    evan14
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    If Peter Lindsay and Bob Baldwin don’t contest the next election, Labor is a good chance of picking up Herbert and Paterson.

  43. 1893
    Boerwar
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    ah,,, luckily, for the Bush, GP is not PM

    *goes*

  44. 1894
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Is anybody running for pre-selection in Bradfield??

  45. 1895
    juliem
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    Glen, I thought they were trying to butter up Mark Taylor for that gig? ;-)

  46. 1896
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    Glen,

    Arthur Sinodinis allegedly and Tom Switzer.

  47. 1897
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    I believe Arthur Sinodinos is running.

  48. 1898
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Is anybody running for pre-selection in Bradfield??

    Arthur Sinodinis and Tom Switzer

  49. 1899
    Glen
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Artie is too old and Switzer is a hack why cant we get people who would be Ministers/potential leaders in a safe seat!

  50. 1900
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    Sinodinis is of course great young talent, in the Andrew Robb mould.

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