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Newspoll: 55-45

Breaking news: Newspoll has Labor’s lead down from 56-44 to 55-45. Since you all know about it by now, a link will suffice (although I will observe that Malcolm Turnbull’s ratings seem to have bottomed out). Here’s a first: Essential Research has the same result as Newspoll, with Labor’s lead plunging from 59-41 to 55-45. Further questions focus on the parties’ capacity to handle various issues, emissions trading schemes and climate change, and perceptions of politicians’ honesty (better than you might think).

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  1. 2651
    Diogenes
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    GG

    The questions aren’t on Hansard there. Does the Opposition have to send the questions they propose asking the Minister before they ask them? That would mean they are coming up later.

  2. 2652
    vera
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Oh dear, Barnett’s guaranteed surplus takes another hit.

    Barnett fuming over Rio-BHP ore deal
    BHP Billiton is realising its long-held desire to combine its Western Australian iron ore assets with Rio Tinto's in a 50-50 joint venture.

    But Western Australian Premier Colin Barnett is not happy with the deal and believes it has been designed so the companies can avoid paying about $1 billion in stamp duty.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/05/2590714.htm?section=justin

  3. 2653
    Oz
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Are you kidding, Fieldin’s glasses are awesome. I want a pair.

  4. 2654
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Possum,

    Check their tables. You don’t want to accuse them of not knowing if their backsides are on fire, do you?

  5. 2655
    Oz
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Diogenes, there’s no database exclusively for questions without notice (I think).

    You can search for Questions on notice here:

    http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/web/common.nsf/V3SearchSite?open&area=Papers&house=la&paper=question

  6. 2656
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Turnbull rubbishes Fitzgibbon’s ‘Judas’ claims

    Like Bill Poster, Judas was innocent. he was a great kisser.

  7. 2657
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Diogs,

    “Questions without notice” sort of implies they ask without notice.

  8. 2658
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Greeny, I’ve just given up even trying to bother.

    Nothing on that site makes an ounce of sense.

  9. 2659
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Possum,

    How you going to treat it in Pollytrend?

  10. 2660
    Tom the first and best
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Since there is a new Morgan poll, a new thread should come soon to replace this rather short one.

  11. 2661
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Greeny, I’ll have to replace the last one with the 900+ sample with the results of this one. It wont make a toss of difference though in the end.The results are of the new poll are similar to the old one, and it was a whole polling cycle ago.

  12. 2662
    scorpio
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Oh dear. You are a bothersome little marsupial, aren’t you.

    A POSSUM which has terrorised an MP's office and dined on apples belonging to parliamentary staff has proven there is such a thing as a free lunch in politics.
    Since being evicted from Parliament House in Macquarie St - more than once - the Hansard Possum has been treated to a banana a day.

    A home has been built for him in a fig tree at the rear of the building where Little Bobby, parliament's famous blind possum, lives and takes food from kind security guards.

    The battle to evict the Hansard Possum from the roof of Level 8, including once this week on Wednesday night, has lasted two years and cost at least $2585.

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25590287-5013016,00.html

  13. 2663
    scorpio
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    And this!

    "He needs to go to the toilet a lot at night and it leaves a smell," assistant building services manager Brett Wright said yesterday.

    "We are not going to evict him and leave him, we are trying to look after him. He has a possum house, we keep it topped up with fruit. He loves bananas."

  14. 2664
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    I know scorpio – what’s a bloke have to do to get a damn steak!

    Speaking of which, half the Norman Hotel burnt down this arvo in Bris. One less place to get a good feed of protein.

  15. 2665
    scorpio
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Possum steals food then poos, wees in parliament

    I thought it was “Eats, roots, shoots and leaves”.

  16. 2666
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Is Gary Morgan *trying* to destroy his own reputation as a pollster, or what? Still, I’ll take 58-42 no matter how it was arrived at.

  17. 2667
    The Finnigans
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Should get them for the Mardi Gras.

    Gay penguins hatch, rear a chick at Bremerhaven Zoo - TWO gay male penguins who have made world headlines for their sexuality have hatched a chick and are now rearing it as its adoptive parents.

    The zoo, in Bremerhaven, northern Germany, says the adult males - Z and Vielpunkt - were given an egg which was rejected by its biological parents.

    http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25586279-5012895,00.html

  18. 2668
    Diogenes
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    GG

    So most of the questions are given to them beforehand then. These ones must be upcoming.

  19. 2669
    Tom the first and best
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Psephos
    Do you think the retirement of Carlo Carli at the Next state election will make Brunswick easier to win for the Greens?

  20. 2670
    Oz
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    For some reason it took me a while to figure out South Brisbane is Bligh’s branch.

    That’s hilarious.

  21. 2671
    ruawake
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    An interested Rudd ute-gate point that the Rabble have missed. St Kev is allowed to have a car for his electorate, if he does not have a car he is entitled to the $19,000 allowance and this could be added to his salary.

    Rudd does not claim this allowance – hence he is saving the taxpayer money.

  22. 2672
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if the refusal of the Rudd Recession to make an appearance won’t actually improve the polls for Labor, but instead lift their potential floor?

    So rather than have the ALP mid-term polling float around between 54 and 60 for an ultimate election result of 53 to 54, whether instead (and assuming a recession is averted for the rest of year) that ultimate result sticks a few economic voters onto Labor for a floor of 54-55?

  23. 2673
    Oz
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Tom it depends on the candidate. As I understand it there’s a popular local mayor down there but he’s from the minority right faction (at least in that part of the Labor party) who’d do a good job of getting the tradional Labor/left vote and the Italian and more conservative bits that Carlo managed to picked up.

    The left faction candidates are generally hacks who probably feel as though the seat is owed too them.

    If I was Labor I’d go with the mayor. Otherwise they risk seeing how much of the vote was personal support for Carlo.

  24. 2674
    Oz
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Was wondering that myself, Possum.

    Seriously, I woke up this morning and thought “Hmm, I wonder how the lack of a ‘technical’ recession will effect Labor’s potential floor?”.

    Seriously.

  25. 2675
    scorpio
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    It’s amazing how a single address can be interpreted so differently by two different media sources. Pity the poor punters out here in voterland. What do you believe.

    RBA warns worse to come

    THE head of the Reserve Bank has poured cold water on suggestions that Australia has escaped recession, and predicted things would get worse before they improve.

    But RBA governor Glenn Stevens said this recession was unlikely to be the biggest of the post-war period.

    Mr Stevens (pictured) said yesterday that while Australia's economy dodged a "technical recession" by growing in the first three months of the year, there was little doubt the nation was in a serious slump.

    "For most people out there who are in business, it has certainly felt like a recession for some months now," he told a conference in Townsville.

    "Whether you call it technical or not doesn't really matter."

    The technical definition of a recession is "two consecutive quarters of negative growth".

    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25588897-664,00.html

    RBA Governor forecasts recovery for Australian economy

    SYDNEY: The Reserve Bank Governor, Glenn Stevens, has commented that he believes Australia is well placed to emerge strongly from the current global financial crisis.

    In his address to James Cook University’s Business Excellence Series in Townsville yesterday, Stevens was confident that Australia will see significant growth in the future.

    “We are likely to see significant growth in public spending over the year ahead, reflecting fiscal policy decisions. Also the pick-up in borrowing for housing that we have been seeing for about six months is what would be expected if an upturn in residential investment spending is to begin later in the year,” he said.

    “Overall, our expectation remains that the economy will be well placed for expansion towards the end of this year.”

    Stevens emphasised that it is difficult to effectively predict turning points in an economy, but was enthusiastic about Australia’s prospects.

    http://www.current.com.au/2009/06/05/article/IFCVCAAHAQ.html

  26. 2676
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Nurse! Nurse! :-D

  27. 2677
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Do you think the retirement of Carlo Carli at the Next state election will make Brunswick easier to win for the Greens?

    No. Although Brunswick has suffered some incursions of performance artists, aroma therapists and cultural theory lecturers, it’s still basically an ethnic and working class area, and as such safe for Labor. If they’ll vote for Carlo, they’ll vote for whomever else Labor can come up with.

  28. 2678
    dave
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    And Minack….

    It’s a recession, despite GDP ‘surprise’
    By Gerard Minack

    The 0.4% improvement in March quarter GDP changes very little. In particular, it doesn’t change the fact that on any sensible definition Australia is in recession. Nor, more to the point, does it change my view that things will get worse.

    The surprise was due to the Australian Bureau of Statistics changing the way it tracks bulk commodity prices. Usually the bureau waits for the major contracts to be settled, and factors in the price changes in the June quarter (because the contract prices are set from April 1). This week it announced that it was actually factoring in lower prices in the March quarter. Factoring in a lower price implied a higher volume for exports, which lifted GDP. Consequently, net exports added 1.4 percentage points to growth in the quarter.

    Forget this statistical jiggery-pokery: the key numbers to focus on are national income and domestic demand. Australia’s boom was not a GDP boom, it was a national income and domestic demand boom. The latest GDP figures confirm that the boom is busting. Gross national spending fell by 1.0% in the March quarter, following a 1.3% fall in the December quarter. Real gross domestic income fell by 1.2% in both quarters.

    These are the variables that drive domestic profits, employment and the Reserve Bank. The weakness points to further job losses. Continuing increases in unemployment will keep the pressure on the Reserve Bank to keep cutting rates. I still think that the cash rate target will be lowered to 2%.

    A couple of follow-on points

    First, the most important thing about exports is total receipts. It doesn’t really matter whether it is prices or volumes that are driving the aggregate. This week’s report confirmed that the global bust is finally having an impact. Last year, despite the “great recession”, Australia’s mining exports kept booming:

    Second, the recession is starting to affect consumers. Last year it was a painless recession: household income boomed, seeing the fastest rise since 1974. Now, real incomes are starting to feel the pinch. That income strength underpinned better consumer spending in the March quarter, but I doubt that spending will sustained its early-2009 momentum for much longer.

    Finally, as I keep reminding clients, I will be wrong unless I see significant job losses. This weeks data is consistent with job losses to come.

  29. 2679
    philofsydney
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Tom it depends on the candidate. As I understand it there’s a popular local mayor down there but he’s from the minority right faction (at least in that part of the Labor party) who’d do a good job of getting the tradional Labor/left vote and the Italian and more conservative bits that Carlo managed to picked up.

    Sounds remarkably like another election recently in WA.

  30. 2680
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Carli won by about 4% last time over the Greens (who finsihed second). If anything, Labor’s vote has probably increased. Provided Labor has a good local candidate, the Greens have no chance.

  31. 2681
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Dave – in a rare even, the ABS responded to Minack and complete pwnd him.

    http://bit.ly/nd11a

  32. 2682
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Carli isn’t resigning, he’s retiring at the next election, so there’s no comparison with Fremantle. If we were talking about a Brunswick by-election that might be a different matter, although the Greens made a mess of their golden opportunity at the Albert Park by-election in 2007.

  33. 2683
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    It’s like the Australian Cricket Side earlier this century. You get through the batsman and have a Gilchrist come in at 7. The Libs are going to regret this!

    “Mr Rudd joked the new Defence Minister was already being referred to as “Field Marshal Faulkner” and was well qualified for the job and well respected in the defence community”.

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/john-faulkner-replaces-joel-fitzgibbon-as-defence-minister-20090605-by2n.html

  34. 2684
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    GG, quite so. If the Russell Hill Colonel Blimps didn’t like Fitzgibbon, they will soon detest Faulkner. He’s much nastier and ten times as smart.

  35. 2685
    Oz
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Definitely not putting it in The Greens column but there’s some points to be made, and Greensborough Growler and Adam are definitely not going to mention them.

    The margin was 3.7% at the last election.

    Average of the last 3 Newspolls has The Greens on a statewide 4.3% swing compared to the election results. The same period for Labor has a swing against them, but that includes a probable outlier. Without that it’s a 2% swing to them.

    And it’s very unlikely that any potential candidate would have a high personal vote, except possibly Lambros (the mayor) but that’s not guaranteed.

    So calls like “The Greens have no chance” are more fantasy than anything else.

  36. 2686
    vortex
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    2636

    Dave, one of the best moments of Election Night 2007: David Bradbury winning Lindsay for the ALP in a landslide.

    Here here! I was handing out HTVs for Dave that day (as I had the previous two elections) plus I had the enjoyment of a tracky dack clad Jackie Kelly visiting the booth I was on. She was bringing some more Lib posters for display. So I asked her “were they appropriately authorised” (unlike her husband’s ‘Allar Akba’ fliers). She swore at me and moved on. Sweet.

  37. 2687
    Oz
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    there’s no comparison with Fremantle.

    I think the only comparison made was between two local mayors of Italian origin who weren’t best friends with the local Labor branch.

  38. 2688
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    vortex,

    Great story.

  39. 2689
    Cuppa
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Crikey earlier in the week published the following on the non-arrival of THE RUDD RECESSION (sic):

    [It’s only one number, and subject to future revision. But with more stimulus to roll out into the economy via the extension of the home owners’ grant, the infrastructure component of the second stimulus package, the big-ticket infrastructure projects announced in the budget and what’s left of the RBA’s rate cut drop, the chances of future negative growth appear slim, although another external shock could confound everyone’s hopes.]

  40. 2690
    Diogenes
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Question without notice.

    We all know there has never been a female PM (we’re not counting acting).

    I can’t think of a female Defence Minister, Treasurer or Foreign Minister either. Have I forgotten someone or are women on the outer in those jobs?

  41. 2691
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    I think the only comparison made was between two local mayors of Italian origin who weren’t best friends with the local Labor branch.

    And the lack of a Liberal Candidate in one particular case – thus resulting in the Liberal vote on masse going to the Greens Candidate.

  42. 2692
    Rebecca
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Ah, Adam. Albert Park. Just like Labor made a mess of their magnificent opportunity to win Mayo in 2008.

    It’ll be interesting to see how the Greens go in Brunswick, but I’m sceptical. As much as they had no chance of winning the seats, the campaigns in Williamstown and Albert Park were not what you might call brilliant, they blew the Senate campaign, and the Greens MPs in Victoria haven’t been exactly spectacular.

    I think it’ll get closer, but it certainly won’t be this time.

  43. 2693
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    If you’re talking about Mayor Tapinos, he’s Greek.

  44. 2694
    Oz
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    And the lack of a Liberal Candidate in one particular case - thus resulting in the Liberal vote on masse going to the Greens Candidate.

    Given that’s only in “one particular case” I’m not sure how it’s a comparison.

  45. 2695
    Rebecca
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Frank, keep dreaming, mate.

    News flash: we do not have a first-past-the-post electoral system.

    If the Liberals run a candidate in Fremantle, Carles will get their preferences, and she will win.

  46. 2696
    Oz
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    If you’re talking about Mayor Tapinos, he’s Greek.

    There you go, my bad.

  47. 2697
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a bit of a run down on Brunswick via Landeryou for anyone interested in the entrails.

    http://www.vexnews.com/news/4579/lefties-at-war-carlos-departure-sets-the-stage-for-an-epic-battle/

  48. 2698
    Generic Person
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    No 2686

    Goodness me, I was handing out HTVs in Lindsay as well, except not for Labor. :)

    The only funny part of the miserable (and bloody hot) day was when Chas Licciardello from the Chaser showed up at my booth, dressed as Osama Bin Laden, to hand out fake pamphlets to Karen Chijoff.

  49. 2699
    Boerwar
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Ute Man
    lol

  50. 2700
    Boerwar
    Posted Friday, June 5, 2009 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Fitzgibbon will have to get a Keating’s dog so he can have someone around him he can trust.

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