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Reuters Poll Trend: 55.8-44.2

The latest Reuters Poll Trend weighted average of Newspoll, Morgan and ACNielsen results has federal Labor with a two-party lead of 55.8-44.2, presumably being weighed down a little by recent results from before the weekend.

UPDATE: Roy Morgan has joined in on the action with a small sample (546) phone poll including questions on leadership approval, which Morgan doesn’t normally do. It finds Malcolm Turnbull’s approval rating down to 25 per cent from 43 per cent in May, with his disapproval up a breathtaking 33.5 per cent to 62.5 per cent. Kevin Rudd’s approval rating on 63 per cent, up from 57.5 per cent in May, with his disapproval rating down from 33.5 per cent to 29 per cent. Labor holds leads of 56-44 on two-party preferred and 46 per cent to 39 per cent on the primary vote, which is actually quite mild by Morgan standards. Newspoll has also published its quarterly geographic and demographic breakdowns of recent polling by state, age, sex, and capitals/non-capitals.

Apart from that:

• Robert Taylor of The West Australian reports that Labor preselections for some highly winnable Liberal-held seats in Perth appear to be ”stitched up”. In the only two seats in the country which the Coalition gained from Labor in 2007, Cowan and Swan, those respectively named are Wanneroo mayor Jon Kelly and Slater & Gordon lawyer Tim Hammond. Kelly is interesting, as he ran as an independent against state Labor MP Margaret Quirk in Girrawheen at the 2005 election after a split in the Right faction. In Stirling, where decorated Iraq war veteran Peter Tinley failed to unseat current Shadow Workplace Relations Minister Michael Keenan in 2007, the nod is apparently set to be given to Karen Brown, former deputy editor of The West Australian and current chief-of-staff to Eric Ripper. Brown famously failed to win the new notionally Labor seat of Mount Lawley at the state election last September after suffering an 8 per cent swing, which many blamed on Alan Carpenter’s insistence that local member Bob Kucera make way for Brown. Peter Tinley is said to be holding out for a safe seat or a Senate position, and the unlikelihood of either suggests he will not be a starter at the next election. In Hasluck, which Sharryn Jackson recovered for Labor in 2007 after a term in the wilderness, Liberals are said by Taylor to be “working behind the scenes” to secure the endorsement of Mike Dean, who last week stepped down from his high-profile position as president of the Police Union.

• The ABC reports that Kathryn Hay will seek Labor preselection for Bass at next year’s state election. Hay is a former Miss Tasmania who became Tasmania’s first Aboriginal MP when elected at the age of 27 in 2002. After surprising everybody by dropping out at the 2006 election, Hay ran as an independent against Ivan Dean in the upper house seat of Windermere in May, and did very well to finish within 5 per cent of victory on the final count. With incumbent Jim Cox retiring, Michelle O’Byrne a sure bet for re-election, and Labor looking certain to win a second seat but very unlikely to pick up a third, the battle for the second seat is looking like a tussle between Hay, Beaconsfield mine disaster survivor Brant Webb, CFMEU forests division secretary Scott McLean (who famously came out in support of John Howard at the 2004 federal election) and Winnaleah school principal Brian Wightman, with only the latter looking an obvious also-ran.

Rick Wallace of The Australian reports that George Seitz, western Melbourne Labor Right potentate and state Keilor MP, proposes to publish a “warts and all” account of his career in politics. Seitz is being forced out after nearly three decades in parliament due to a Victorian Ombudsman’s report which probed into the involvement of various state MPs in goings-on at Brimbank City Council. The aforementioned Wallace article is worth reading for a broader overview of the episode’s far-reaching impact on the Victorian ALP.

Andrew Landeryou at VexNews reports that the closure of nominations has brought no challenges to sitting federal Liberal MPs in Victoria – including Kevin Andrews in Menzies, who was believed to be under threat from former Peter Reith staffer Ian Hanke.

Nick in comments informs us that according to a Channel Nine news report, Labor polling has it trailing the Coalition 57-43 on NSW state voting intention.

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  1. 2001
    Tom Hawkins
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Murdoch papers paid £1m to gag phone-hacking victims
    Rupert Murdoch's News Group News­papers has paid out more than £1m to settle legal cases that threatened to reveal evidence of his journalists' repeated involvement in the use of criminal methods to get stories.

    If as I suspect the OO hasn’t reported on this matter then I think some of us should be asking Media Watch if they could would ask the Oz Head of Ltd News why they have chosen to ignore a story that is all about standards of journalism which he feels so strongly about.

    What say you?

  2. 2002
    marktwain
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    A million quid? That’s nothing compared to the spurious law suits all newspapers receive every year for publishing restaurant and movie reviews. Then again, it is the News of the World – what do you expect? The standards of the National Enquirer?

  3. 2003
    Tom Hawkins
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    2002

    Illegal activities by journalists are a tad more serious than dodgy restaurant reviews.

    :-)

  4. 2004
    marktwain
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    2003

    It’s the News of the World. I’m surprised they went to the lengths of actually bugging phones. They just usually make stuff up.

  5. 2005
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    The cricket coverage just showed Johnny and Janette Howard.

  6. 2006
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    The cricket coverage just showed Johnny and Janette Howard.

    Time for a brave Journalist to submit an FOI Application to see whether he used his Gold Card to get there ?

  7. 2007
    marktwain
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Yuk. Did you barf?

  8. 2008
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Ponting is disobeying the “Hauritz is not allowed to bowl before day three” rule.

  9. 2009
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Ooo, but the UK Murdoch saga gets even better …

    Tory communications chief Andy Coulson today as the former tabloid editor”

    A link between phone taps, a Murdoch Ed who’s now a Tory Comms Chief, whom the leader of HM’s Opposition, Tory Leader Cameron … Cheez, ‘Od ‘av thunk it, eh!”

    More than made my day!

    More on Murdoch News of the World phone taps:
    David Cameron defends Andy Coulson over News of the World phone-hacking plus other leads.

    And the latest from THe Independent Cameron backs Tory chief over phone taps

    David Cameron offered his strong support for Tory communications chief Andy Coulson today as the former tabloid editor came under intense pressure over alleged phone hacking by News of the World journalists.

    John Prescott led Labour calls for Mr Coulson to be fired after it was reported that News Group, which owns his former Sunday paper, spent more than £1 million on out-of-court settlements relating to the claims.

    But the Conservative leader indicated he had no intention of losing his director of communications, who resigned from the News of the World in 2007 after one of its reporters was jailed for hacking into the phone messages of royal aides.

  10. 2010
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    For those in love with accidentally crazy headlines Michael Jackson to be buried without his brain

  11. 2011
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    BEWDAFUL!

    It looks like Theophanous has been framed by… a fake emeail.

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/mp-rape-case-email-forged-court-told-20090709-dehr.html

    Word association test: When you hear the words “fake” and “email” whose name comes to mind?

    1. Theo Theophanous
    2. Martin Hamilton-Smith
    3. Malcolm Turnbull.

  12. 2012
    marktwain
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Adny Bool iz caling teh ovah-bi-ovah crikit covrag att teh Grauniad. Hee haits Strayans moor dan youse haits Newz Ltd.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jul/09/ashes-england-australia-the-spin

  13. 2013
    bob1234
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Word association test: When you hear the words “fake” and “email” whose name comes to mind?

    1. Theo Theophanous
    2. Martin Hamilton-Smith
    3. Malcolm Turnbull.

    And which of them have fallen on their sword?

    :D

  14. 2014
    ShowsOn
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Word association test: When you hear the words “fake” and “email” whose name comes to mind?

    I think “Liberal Party”.

  15. 2015
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    I think “Liberal Party Dirt Unit”

  16. 2016
    Andrew
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    turnbull resoundingly answered the question “will he learn from fake email saga?” with a NO. Goes off half cocked about China. How can he possibly think this is good strategy. I know many have said he’s just not a good politician. I’d say he’s got poor judgement period.

  17. 2017
    zoomster
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Bob, if the rape claim against Theophanous is fake (which we don’t know) than there is no reason for him to fall on his sword.

    MT, however, has already been found guilty…

  18. 2018
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    First Rudd sools the Auditor General, then the Fed Cops onto the whole Utegate Fake email involving the local Tories, a mole amd a News Ltd journ.

    Then Obama upsets US journos (inc Rupe’s) by askig for a news update from a OMG Blogger/etc for HuffPost

    NOW THIS!

    The unfolding “Gawd, where have I heard this before” story of Murdoch UK”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/09/news-world-phone-hacking-claims

    The Metropolitan police is to examine allegations that journalists from the News of the World and other newspapers repeatedly used criminal methods to get stories through mobile phone hacking.

    And that’s not all Commons media committee to investigate phone-hacking revelations

    An inquiry into the Guardian revelations about the use of illegal surveillance techniques by News International newspapers was launched this morning by the Commons culture, media and sport committee….

    Whittingdale also said it was “almost certain” that his committee would subsequently want to take evidence from Andy Coulson, the former News of the World editor who now works as David Cameron’s communications chief.

    After Clive Goodman, a News of the World reporter, was jailed in 2007 for illegally hacking into the mobile phones of three royal staff, Hinton told the committee that he was “absolutely convinced” that Goodman was the only person who knew about phone hacking at the paper.

    Whittingdale said that, in the light of what Hinton said at the time, his committee was “completely shocked” to read that News Group, the News International parent company, had paid out more than £1m to settle legal cases involving illegal surveillance.

    Must be a moral in there about “not as single spies but in battalions”.

  19. 2019
    vera
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    From the ABC on the Murdoch press phone hackings

    "If David Cameron is elected prime minister next year, Andy Coulson would be at his right-hand... he'd be involved in all kinds of the most sensitive work that a Government can be involved in.

    "Can you have a man there if it turns out that he's been commissioning criminal behaviour in his previous job?

    Could another unloseble election be lost?
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/09/2621759.htm?section=justin

  20. 2020
    The Finnigans
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    SBS Cricket commentary team looks a little el cheapo to me.

  21. 2021
    marktwain
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Not a chance, Vera. Even Rupert couldn’t win that one for Labour.

  22. 2022
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Ozpoltragic,

    As first reported at 1995.

  23. 2023
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    Now the Guardian scoop is what I call good, investigative journalism and quality journalism that people will pay to read. We’re really lapping it up here.

  24. 2024
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Finns,

    Two things can save Australia

    (a) Make 550
    (b) Rain

    Hauritz turning square means the Poms will be drawing the ball back like a yo yo.

  25. 2025
    Gusface
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Ozpol
    As i suggested here earlier, send an email to the fed police ,ASIS and ACMA
    along the lines of what I sent

    I am, requesting, as a concerned citizen, that the AFP investigate whether any occurences of -

    As per the Guardian article (link below)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/08/murdoch-papers-phone-hacking

    [evidence of Murdoch journalists using private investigators who illegally hacked into the mobile phone messages of numerous public ­figures to gain unlawful access to confidential personal data, including tax records, social security files, bank statements and itemised phone bills. Cabinet ministers, MPs, actors and sports stars were all targets of the private investigators

    Has or is occurring in Australia and whether it affects both our internal security and our external security.]

    They have to investigate
    ;)

  26. 2026
    zoomster
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    GG
    for a moment, I thought you were talking about the environment…and then I worked out what ‘make 550′ meant.

    Needless to say, I’m not really interested in the cricket…

  27. 2027
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    Sorry GG. I did check back, but missed it. Too much reading Andy Bull’s commentary (hasn’t hit his stride yet) flicking back to read UK papers, watching TV & reading PB.

  28. 2028
    dogma
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Uhm GG

    Ozpoltragic,

    As first reported at 1995.

    As reported by me at 9.33AM post 1859

  29. 2029
    The Finnigans
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    GG,

    (c) send the Ruddster in

    Hughes is murdering them, so far so good.

  30. 2030
    Acerbic Conehead
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    With his challenge to the Prime Minister to pull his finger out over the China Rio Tinto bizzo, Malcolm is upping the ante even more and has decided to drive the Debt Truck over to the Vatican. He is determined, so to speak, to take the Papal Bull by the horns. He parks the truck below the Pontiff’s balcony and starts to give him an earful.
    Mal: Hey…you up there! When are you going to declare Mary MacKillop a saint? The Australian people demand to know – and now – not next week…
    (Pope Benedict has left the shutters open to let in a bit of a breeze. He hears the racket from down below. “Now, what could all that be about, I wonder”, he muses to himself. Immediately, he returns his attention to his guest, the Australian Prime Minister, and carries on with their conversation about the possibility of Mary MacKillop becoming Australia’s first saint. A proper discussion, however, is made impossible due to the brouhaha, caused by Mal, extending from St Peter’s Square below. Eventually, Kev has had enough.
    Kev: Oh, for the love of Mary…I wish he would put a sauce bottle in it…
    (suddenly, the din below ceases. It is followed by an eerie silence. Such an immense contrast forces Kev and Benny to risk having a peek over the balcony to see what happened to Mal. Has a pigeon pooped into his oral orifice? Has a Swiss Guard donged him over the head with a rubber truncheon? No, none of these. The sight that meets them is seared on their consciousness forever – Mal has ditched the smart suit and has decked himself out in sack-cloth and ashes. He has his cheque-book out and is dolling out his dosh hand-over-fist to the basilica beggars. On his truck, he has painted over the Labor Debt message, and has replaced it with others such as, “Expel the merchant bankers from the Temple!”, and “Woe to ye, WorkChoices Worshippers!”, and “Thou shalt not bear false emails against thy neighbour!”)
    Benny: Well, it looks like you’ve got your second miracle through the intercession of Mary MacKillop…
    Kev: I wouldn’t bet on that…it might be a case of while in Rome, do as the Romans do. Rather, the proof of the pudding will be what he does when he gets back home…

  31. 2031
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Aunty BBC’s running one of Nick Robinson’s Newslogs & Comments on The Phone Hacking http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/07/becoming_the_st.html

  32. 2032
    dogma
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    forgot to put smiley face after my last comment :D

  33. 2033
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    BTW, Auntie Beeb also carries Australia town bans bottled water Again, with room for comments.

  34. 2034
    marktwain
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Andy Bull never hits any strides. Rob Smyth, now – he has strides. I’d pay for that.

  35. 2035
    bob1234
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25758794-5005962,00.html

    INDIA'S top television yoga expert has challenged a landmark court ruling legalising gay sex, claiming it is a "disease" that can be cured by yoga.

    Swami Baba Ramdev filed the petition on the grounds that the Delhi High Court "erred" in decriminalising "unnatural sex acts" last week and that homosexuality was an illness which could be treated, according to the Indian Express newspaper.

    "It can be treated like any other congenital defect. Such tendencies can be treated by yoga, pranayama (breathing exercises) and other meditation techniques," he said in the challenge filed in the Supreme Court.

    ****head.

  36. 2036
    bob1234
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    An astrologer, Suresh Kumar Kaushal, has also filed a petition against the high court decision, arguing that if gay sex is legalised, "tomorrow people might seek permission for having sex with animals".

    What a tool.

  37. 2037
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    dogma,

    You de person!

  38. 2038
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    An astrologer, Suresh Kumar Kaushal, has also filed a petition against the high court decision, arguing that if gay sex is legalised, "tomorrow people might seek permission for having sex with animals".

    Couldn’t they seek permission today? lol

  39. 2039
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Finns,

    Hughes has that unquantifiable ability to hit the ball where they ain’t. It’s laughable to hear Hussein and Atherton, two players who were all technique and no success, commenting on the alleged technical failings of Hughes.

    The Brit cricket commentary (apart from Mumbles, who reminds me of Ron)regarding the Australiam team is like the Oz commenting on Rudd. A phenomenon they neither like nor understand.

  40. 2040
    marktwain
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Ah, GG, true to form: you only hear what you want to hear.

    So sad.

  41. 2041
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Marktwain,

    que?

    I might be deaf.

  42. 2042
    The Finnigans
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Hughes has that unquantifiable ability to hit the ball where they ain’t.

    Yeah GG, it’s called hit me with your rhythm stick.

  43. 2043
    The Finnigans
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    so sad

    a great song with perfect harmony from the Everly Bros.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ziVbCyIEq4

    so great.

  44. 2044
    Gusface
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    two links of interest re hackgate

    http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/politics/politics/police-investigate-phone-bugging-claims-$1310111.htm

    and a great piece from
    http://www.politics.co.uk/analysis/culture-media-and-sport/comment-the-british-media-is-failing-the-public-$1310212.htm

  45. 2045
    marktwain
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    That would not come as a surprise, GG.

  46. 2046
    Greensborough Growler
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    Finns,

    Nice get.

    Marktwain,

    Perhaps people might listen to you when you’ve got something to say?

  47. 2047
    The Finnigans
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    GG,

    maybe your “deaf” has been greatly exaggerated according to Mr. Twain. :grin:

  48. 2048
    marktwain
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    Shoosh, GG, the cricket’s on.

  49. 2049
    Dario
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Thank goodness Toolman isn’t the ABC’s travelling reporter for this Rudd trip. Don’t think I could stand another daily trashing on Lateline again.

    Anyone expecting another ‘dirt’ story to emerge while he’s away? The past few trips its seemed that the Libs et al were trying desperately to take as much gloss off his world stage time as possible. Maybe they’ve used all their aces?

  50. 2050
    Gusface
    Posted Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    live blog from guardian on hackgate

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2009/jul/09/murdoch-papers-phone-hacking

    3 predictions
    1.brown will win the next UK election
    2.this is the beginning of the end for rupes empire
    3.Interpol will get involved

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