Roy Morgan has leapt in with last weekend’s face-to-face polling of 1050 respondents, showing Labor’s lead has actually nudged slightly upwards: from 60.5-39.5 to 61-39. Labor’s primary vote is down one point to 51 per cent, but the Coalition’s is also down two to 32.5 per cent. Contra Newspoll, the Greens are up two to 9.5 per cent.
Other news:
• Imre Salusinszky of The Australian reports Julia Gillard hopes to save “soft Left” colleague Laurie Ferguson by moving him to Werriwa, whose member Chris Hayes would have to make do with Macarthur – in turn cutting loose Nick Bleasdale, the candidate from 2007 who appeared lined up for another shot. It appears Hayes will suffer that fate in any case, as it has been agreed Werriwa should go to the Left. However, Anthony Albanese’s “hard Left” wants it to go to Damien Ogden, an LHMU organiser who defeated incumbent Ken McDonnell for preselection in Sutherland Shire Council’s “E” ward before last year’s elections, but ultimately failed to win the seat. Hayes is understandably not keen, and is calling for the matter to be determined by the local branches – as Ferguson did last week when his ambition was to stay on in redrawn Reid at the expense of John Murphy. That appears to be off the table because the seat is reserved for the Right. Importantly, Phillip Coorey of the Sydney Morning Herald reports the Prime Minister is also of a mind to throw Ferguson a lifeline.
• VexNews tells of a further brush fire in Macquarie, to be vacated at the election by Bob Debus. According to VexNews, Debus and the hard Left would have the national executive decide the issue in favour of Susan Templeman, principal of Templeman Consulting, who sells herself as “one of the country’s leading media trainers and coaches”. However, local branches favour Debus antagonist Adam Searle, a “soft Left” member whose designs on Debus’s old state seat of Blue Mountains were thwarted by Debus’s recruitment of Phil Koperberg. When Debus agreed to make life easier for the Prime Minister by relinquishing his position in the ministry in June, Glenn Milne in The Australian reported talk he had done so on the condition that he get to choose his successor in Macquarie.
• The Australian reports Warren Entsch will try to win Leichhardt back for the LNP at the next election. Entsch retired before the last election, and Labor demolished the 10.3 per cent margin he had built up with a 14.3 per cent swing. He floated the possibility of running for Cairns or Barron River at the March state election, but thought better of it. Teresa Gambaro, who lost Petrie at the election, plans to nominate for Brisbane, where the redistribution has cut Labor’s margin from 6.8 per cent to 3.8 per cent. UPDATE: AAP has reported Gambaro has indeed been preselected (thanks to LTEP in comments).
• Imre Salusinszky of The Australian reports a preselection challenge from the Right to Philip Ruddock in Berowra has been withdrawn. The identity of the challenger is not offered.
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I don’t know the answer but I don’t think it is an autmatically bad thing for Labor that Rupert Murdoch so overtly attacks Rudd. It might arouse some sympathy for Rudd and as a minimum any future criticism from the Murdoch press will have less credibility. Nor do I think Murdoch has as much power as he used to. He is an American citizen, his papers are declining in circulation fast, and he is getting, looking and sounding old. His judgement after recent statements on Australian politics, US politics and the GFC is not exactly prescient. Assuming that most older voters don’t change their vote much (Poss?) I can’t see Murdoch having much influence on the young. He has more credibility than Glen Milne, but not much more.
correct
Billary never even got it past the committee stage so Obama/Reid/Pelosi have got it two steps further.
I just read The Age article criticising the Bracks government over delays to public transport projects. I think the criticism is partly valid. There is no excuse for the delay – putting in a comms system for trains is not that hard. But conversely, the consequences of the delay are exaggerated. Paul Mees is incorrect to link this to rising patronage, because it is a safety related issue. Conversely, there is no planning impact or legislative hurdle to overcome that I am aware of, so defending Brumby on that grounds is false too.
As usual, this is another example of the waste adn delay that occurs when state transport agencies are run down over years, have few people left in them with any technical expertise, and then don’t know how to deliver anything. The state government is not blameless over that.
Barnaby says to send the OV back to SL.
Smith refuses, funnily enough giving the same reason I gave for saying we couldn’t do it. I do seem to remember people disagreeing with me, but with the Labor Foreign Affairs Minister on my side, I’m probably right after all.
X says Xmas Island.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/08/2736464.htm
10 news had a clip of Howard on a footpath somewhere, must have been having his walk, gee he’s looking old and sounding bitter and twisted!
10 reporter said Howard says Rudd hasn’t done anything since he became PM and that he squandered Howies fortune of the past 12 years.
I think it’s time for the men in white coats to take Howie somewhere safe and secure for his own good
10 also saying a report says we’ll pay $320PA extra on electric bills if the ETS come in. It pisses me off that the media are doing the Libs job for them, all the bloody time!
After talking with a prominent scientist and authority on climate change- the conclusion is that we have or are just about to reach the point of no return in terms of crap pumped into the atmosphere. If we are responsible for climate then we are doomed. Nobody is willing to make any useful desicions except tinker around the edges. After volcanoes power generation produces the most CO2. We have to quickly change to gas and rapidly start making geothermal viable. Wind and solar are a lost cause. Nuclear has too many risks, and the emmissions trading scheme will only make Al Gore a billionaire. Too little too late.
So you’re the one that watches Ten News Vera.
And not one mention of Howie’s broken promise about not being a commentator, Vera??
Gary
I’m usually getting dinner ready about that time and seeing as 10 news is on then I usually have a look at the TV in the kitchen. Plus if OH is home he likes 10 sport after the news because they have a longersports report than the other channels.
Andrew, no, no mention of that little gem.
They also said Turnbull wasn’t having it all his own way either and showed Barnaby saying “If he want’s to discipline me he’ll have to catch me first!”
KINKY
Yes OK Diogs @ 853. I meant as a real practical difference to their health system
RT @latikambourke: Hajnal Ban has won Liberal preselection for the Queensland seat of Wright.
Isn’t interesting how the media flocked to John Howard on his walk to ask him about the asylum seeker issue. All of the news services were there. Who put out the word?
Hajnal Ban WHOOOOOO!
Maybe they should have asked Howard if he regrets his unsustainable spending in which we had to go into the red to avoid a recession?
GB@858:
Not sure if you are having a dig at Vera, but from my side, I value this site highly because of the huge catchment of information from so many political tragics.
It means that the information gathering is efficient, and you don’t have to trawl through everything to find the stuff that is important or interesting.
I never watch television, and I am grateful for the links and info that various people find here, Vera included, while I can only occasionally keep up with the print media.
Though the difference between not watching TV and watching videos on computer are blurring – I am always delighted to call up the latest Clarke and Dawe, and you people alert me to good episodes of QT to watch.
PB and Poss keep me well informed, and give a slant that I could never get from MSM.
Obama has said that the Stupak coathanger amendment will be chopped up and done away with in conference.
I want to see the US Senate go nuclear! Ram the health care bill through on the strewn corpses of GOP & Liebermann…
Err, no. I was having a go at the popularity of Channel 10 news. Why would I have a go at Vera?
I agree with everything you say on this don.
Vera@861:
Vera, the world needs a Video of this encounter! Lights, camera, action!
The music played during the chase sequence would have to be the Benny Hill chase music and the video should be played at 2x normal speed.
Rolling out Howard to comment on boat people is a dog-whistle in itself.
Maybe the right wing media have realised the Newspoll was a nonsense outlier and the ER questions more reflective of the community. What to do to stir up the people on the issue? Roll out old man himself, the king of dog-whistles saying how he could stop them all with a flick of his wrist, with a wink and a nod.
The media has been riding this issue hard for weeks, trying to gets some traction, a coordinated sustained campaign against Rudd, even that Satan himself makes an appearance. But they are living in fear of not scratching the surface so the go the whole hog with Howard.
Some people in the Howard Govt hit upon the ultimate solution to the boat people issue, the SIEVX solution.
But honestly, is Howard going to be a plus or a negative for Rudd and the Coalition?
Everyone knows he hates Rudd for a start, so anything he says will be heavily discounted. The mere appearance of Howard takes people back to a time they sometimes might not like to remember, where xenophobia and intolerance were encouraged. It was a time of 911, Bush, t&rr*rism, Hicks and an over all sense of nastiness.
But Howard does = the past, for better of worst, and nobody wants to go back.
Rudd would do well to take the opportunity to vigorously engage Howard openly in debate/argument while he has the chance. Putting the two together always benefits Rudd.
With Hajnal Ban gaining pre-selection does that mean the National Party takeover of the LNP is complete?
Howard will always be associated with the terrorism and dog-whistling era.
I wonder if the more Howard, right wing media and Coalition try to dog whistle now the more put off people and uncomfortable people will feel. Rudd was such a screaming success during his election campaign because he was visionary, optimistic and positive on everything. People have had enough of the heavy issues, the restrictive thought patterns of Howard.
The breath of fresh air, optimism, future looking blasted Rudd to the top of popularity. Rudd should be remembering that now, to keep that air of fresh optimism about him and his govt.
With Howard making public appearances again I think it’s time to remind the public why they voted him out. Workchoices anyone?
Some smarty pants said you change the govt. you change the country. I think this is wrong, the country changes and changes the govt.
I am sure Turnbull would rather Howard stayed under his rock – the only people Howard is hurting is the party he led to oblivion.
I think the media are missing the point and it was said on Q& A by Chick and that is the voters are questioning the Governments position on the ETS but has our media is extremely lazy and need a nice neat story it is easy to pick on Rudd’s response to the Ocanic Viking when out there in voter land next to no one cares about it.
I reckon the voters are waking up to the fact that the ETS will mean higher powerbills and this is what they are reacting to for combined with interest rates going up they are not hearing any good reasons from the government as to why they should pay higher power bills when the Chinese and Indians are not committing to target reductions.
All ther boat people issue is doing is telling the voters that the government is good at slogens and poor on actions and i suspect people don’t care if these 78 Sri Lankans are processed in Indonesia or Chrismas Island.
People sometimes get caught up in the sold meme by the media and there isn’t a more erroneous and unfair meme than those consistently run against Obama from day one. They keep saying that he hasn’t achieved anything, they ignore the stimulus and his effect on foreign relations. But they also ignore that for Obama to get anything he wants he has to engage in perpetual gorilla warfare with his own party in the HOR and the GOP in the Senate.
They have this extremely loud persistent hate filled right wing media misinforming the public at every moment.
The only reason that Obama survives it is that it is so obvious that Americans with half a brain can pick up the falseness of the message.
As I have said a few times and some others now – it would be to Rudd’s advantage to be engaged in open war fare with Murdoch’s bunch of bots. If people were to gain the opinion that the murdoch stable of papers were against Rudd then they would become ineffective.
We have had Rudd provoking some of these guys already, giving a solid back hander to Milne and the ABC prodding Murdoch’s craggy old body with a stick a few times now.
And wasn’t the suggested amendments by the Coalition going make it even more expensive?
And if Obama is lucky enough to get ‘his’ health bill through the Senate all of a sudden he is viewed in an entire different light, he becomes a wildly successful POTUS with the world at his feet.
TP,
The only thing that the Murdoch media can do is carp from the sidelines and dissect the carcass should Rudd falter. We’ve seen them do the first on a continual basis. They thought they were on to the second course with thios week’s Newspoll, but they appear to be mistaken.
Rudd’s honeymoon with the voters continues unabated.
I would have thought it continued with the last Newspoll.
The CPRS may mean a higher unit price for electicity but if people change their habits it does not mean higher bills.
My power bill has reduced every qtr for the past 2 years. Despite increases in unit price. Why? I am more aware of saving energy. I have more efficient appliances.
Talking about dog-whistles the Howard Govt deceased must be crying about this missed opportunity..
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911060032
Just imagine how they could have linked this to boat people…and Fear…and lets imagine these boat people all to be evil people ready to torture and maim us at the first opportunity.
Apparently 48-52 is an election winning lead for the Coalition these days
Thomas Paine! Your comment about the Liberal Party’s admendments leading to further incease in power bills is something i have not heard the Government point out.
I think it was last week but in many ways this ETS is Rudd’s GST, in the lead up to it coming into effect he will take a political pounding before voters come to see it isn’t the end of the world.
But unlike Howard and the GST debate Rudd has not run the debate pointing out the weakness in the alternative policy and this is something that has been picked up on Rudd just doesn’t seem able or willing at this stage to explain how the ETS will impact on the family budget or small business budget and if that isn’t an issue now it soon will become an issue.
Ruawake! True people can change their behavior but if you are a low income or pensioner the last thing you want to hear about is higher power bills and this is where the Governemnt needs to get out there and explain how people can reduce their power bills.
When Howard introduced the GST the first thing he did was to show what people would get in terms of compensation, Rudd has been way too low key ad needs to get out there and start to own the debate for he is being out campaigned by both the Liberals and to a lesser exstinct the Greens, sure Rudd and the ALP are still a mile in front.
He gained that support by being on the front foot in regards to the GFC but that was a year ago and he really hadn’t done anything lately to maintain or build upon that support.
He only needs the Liberals to get their act together and things will tighten
“Smith refuses, funnily enough giving the same reason I gave for saying we couldn’t do it. I do seem to remember people disagreeing with me, but with the Labor Foreign Affairs Minister on my side, I’m probably right after all.”
Yes Smith has been spot on so far, what with the 1200% increase in boatpeople since they said dropping the hardline laws against boatpeople wouldn’t cause a surge.
But hey, how could Smith be wrong, he still hasn’t “read” the AFP report saying there would be a surge of boatpeople if the government went soft touch. Maybe he’ll get round to “reading it” one day.
Stalking, ADHD, Narcissism all resolved into…..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/funniest-venn-diagrams-th_n_347552.html?slidenumber=uRsXIbhkUi4%3D#slide_image
the amigo is always the one to do the hard yakka
and so the lull before the storm…
As someone noted the other day about Murdoch being voted worst Person.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/olbermann-murdoch-worst-p_n_348554.html&cp
Neither have you, so don’t make stuff up.
Funny, I could have sworn the increase in boat people started under the Howard government…
So is Nielson out tomorrow or Tuesday?
Would newspoll try and time it for the same day?
Grog, as far as I know Nielsen is out tomorrow. Newspoll could be either.
If I was running the The Oz and had a new Newspoll up my sleeve, I’d run it tomorrow for no other reason than to suck air out of Fairfax
Oh here we go…!
Nielsen usually comes out on a Monday. I don’t recall it coming out on a Tuesday.
I wouldn’t be getting caught up in the importance or not of the next few polls.
There has been a bit of rough air over the past few days and though the polls probably hadn’t changed before the concerted media effort since may have caused enough confusion to leak some votes away from Labor.
The hardest question with regard to media campaigns run by the media against Labor is, is anybody listening? You have to get their attention first.
Ask Malcolm. With Ute-gate he managed to get everyone’s attention, bet he wish he didn’t.
Seems X is backing the Telstra split. That just leaves Fruitcake Fielding?
http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,26321107-462,00.html
Newspoll has surprised us before and come out on Monday. Rare but has occurred.
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