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Morgan: 54.5-45.5

   

Morgan has published results from last weekend’s face-to-face polling from a sample of 915, and it shows Labor’s two-party lead at 54.5-45.5 – robust enough on the face of it, but the narrowest result produced by a Morgan face-to-face poll since January 2007. The Greens have suffered a four point hit on the primary vote, possibly a partial correction last time when they were up from 8.5 per cent to 12 per cent. Labor’s primary vote is up a point to 44 per cent, but the Coalition is up three to 40.5 per cent.

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  1. 1951
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    I’m still happy with my prognosis of Friday night, that it’s 50/50 between a result that means the Tories can form government by themselves, and a hung Parliament where someone has to coalesce with the Liberals.

    That’s still a very bad result for Cameron, given how long Labour’s been in and how weak Brown’s government was been for a long time. Cameron is an empty suit and the voters can see that, even if they have decided to put Labour out. So he’ll be the weakest new Tory PM ever, weaker than Heath and much weaker than Thatcher. If Labour gets a presentable new leader and sorts itself out they’ll have a good chance of coming back after only one term out, as they did in 1974.

  2. 1952
    confessions
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Paul Howes absolutely giving it to Nick Minchin on Q&A, and starring with the audience.

    Memo Labor back room people: please get this man into parliament.

  3. 1953
    scorpio
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Is anyone watching QANDA? If so, what’s happening?

    My mob are watching DVD’s, so no TV for me.

  4. 1954
    redwombat
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Michin has gone feral

  5. 1955
    BK
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    confessions
    Qand A hasn’t started here in SA yet but I am looking forward to seeing how howes performs. He has got substance.

  6. 1956
    vp
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    BK,

    It’s a bottler!

  7. 1957
    ShowsOn
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Great take down of Ian Plimer’s denialism on Media Watch.

  8. 1958
    Aguirre
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think public media organisations should be biased in a way so they match opinion polls, which we all know change over time.

    That implies that the organisation should always slightly favour the Government line straight after an election. To me that would be biased.

    I think you’ve missed the point. There’s nothing in that study that says the ABC is matching it’s content to its readership. The major complaint is that they’re not, that they’re leaning to the right.

    It measures readership. It doesn’t measure the output of the organisation, it measures the people who are accessing it. If, say, 55% of this country lean left, then anything that shows 55% left-leaning readership is bang on the average.

  9. 1959
    cud chewer
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    good point there dyno.. can anyone find an article that simply explains how it works?

  10. 1960
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Watching Minchin on Q&A: he’s jumped the shark. He’s scared.

  11. 1961
    vp
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Penny is laying it out in very plain English: Labor is the only party voting for the CPRS.

  12. 1962
    scorpio
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Glen

    Scorpio if we dont think our opinions cloud our point of views we are mistaken. We must acknowledge them and then make an assessment of that pov.

    I take it then that you don’t agree with him?

    Rudd seemed pretty pleased with himself today. I think he agrees with it! ;-)

  13. 1963
    vp
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Nick’s body language says it all: why am I here?

  14. 1964
    Cuppa
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Watching Minchin on Q&A

    Talk about fighting right up to the bitter end! He’s finishing up as Senate Leader some time in the next week or two. Bowing out of politics altogether later this year (at least that’s said to be his current plan). Once a culture warrior, always a culture warrior I suppose.

  15. 1965
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    vp@1961

    Penny is laying it out in very plain English: Labor is the only party voting for the CPRS.

    And cue the Green Mafia, who need something to rejuvenate them after Adele decided to caucus with Troy :-)

  16. 1966
    injuddstree
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Geez, you can’t tell Minchin is exiting politics soon. Going ape-droppings – and looking like an absolute idiot. Looks scared actually.

    Do we get a Newspoll tonight?

  17. 1967
    cud chewer
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    ShowsOn @1957, yes you’d think by now that ordinary respectable journalists would have latched on to the fact that Plimer is lying his socks off.. but sadly.. aint seen a sign of it yet. You gotta hope that eventually he’ll be disgraced.

  18. 1968
    cud chewer
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    @1960, great to see the likes of Minchin going feral eh..

  19. 1969
    dyno
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Psephos, I am not a huge fan of Cameron, I think Hague would make a much better PM, and I’m inclined to think the Tories’ performance since January has been far from excellent.

    On the other hand, if they can get a stable majority (which I only rate a 50/50 bet at this stage), then I suspect Cameron will come out of it all smelling pretty sweet, however much he may have squandered a big lead.

    On the other hand, if the Tories don’t end up in Government, Cameron’s leadership must be over, and they’ll go back to Hague in my opinion.

  20. 1970
    vp
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Christine has a good brain and speaks well. Threee months in a reeducation camp and she’d be fine.

  21. 1971
    Frank Calabrese
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    vp@1970

    Christine has a good brain and speaks well. Threee months in a reeducation camp and she’d be fine.

    and it won’t be the one Adele attended :-)

  22. 1972
    vp
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Nick’s a waste of space, he really is. Fatuous.

  23. 1973
    TheTruthHurts
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Well our moderator has already recognised his distinction as the dumbest person to ever post on the blog.

    But he just keeps digging a far deeper hole.

    Will I have to pay Rudd’s big new mining tax?

  24. 1974
    Mr Denmore
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    The ABC shouldn’t be interviewing other journalists, whether from News Ltd or Fairfax or anywhere else – unless those individual journalists have broken a major story or have some level of expertise or insight not available from their own correspondents or outside sources. It represents an outsourcing of editorial judgement.

    There is far too much of this lazy cutting and pasting of other journalists’ opinions at the ABC, so much so that one can rightly ask what is the point of the taxpayer funding an independent public broadcaster if it spends most of its time blandly echoing the editorial lines of the broadsheets.

    I am quite aware of the argument that bias is in the eye of the beholder, but as I said in my earlier post, it is my professional judgement that the ABC has decided, either consciously or sub-consciously, to follow News Ltd’s line in political news.

    That it does this is self-evident, despite ShowsOn’s rather persistent and curiously insistent claims to the contrary. The bigger argument is WHY it does it. My own feeling is that the Howard government’s relentless campaign against perceived leftist bias and subsequent stacking of the broadcaster’s board with strident culture warriors of the far right has inculcated a reflexive timidity on the part of senior editors at the ABC. They all want a quiet life and achieve that by mirroring News Ltd’s agenda for the day. So afraid are they of pursuing an independent line that they swing the other way.

    Ultimately, this is not about political bias, but about poor journalism. A good journalist provides context for his or her audience or readership. They do not blithely accept what they are told by spindoctors, but seek out independent corrobaration and expert opinion outside the established power structures. They provide their audiences with fresh ways of looking at contentious issues.

    Unfortunately, this takes effort. It means going beyond the usual go-to sources and rent-a-quotes – the Mitch Hookes of the world. It might have involved, in the resource tax story for instance, seeking out an economist who could have explained the macro-economic arguments for such a tax and the Dutch Disease syndrome.

    Instead, the ABC broadcasts as “news” claims and counter-claims from the ritual sources on either side of the debate. It is “he says-she says” journalism that neither informs nor enlightens. It is such a shame for an organisation that formerly prided itself on fearless journalism.

  25. 1975
    cud chewer
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/worleyparsons-billiondollar-solar-plan-20080812-3u3u.html

  26. 1976
    Diogenes
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Mumble has an interesting response to the Marsupial’s post about Rudd, the ETS and a DD.

    Perhaps Rudd’s overarching gutlessness has been in never having the confidence to try to sell … well, anything to the electorate. Some explaining of the ETS over 2008 and 2009 would have helped.

    Rudd is even more politically timid than John Howard - and that’s saying something.*

    *Howard was a serial backflipper, and the fact that his fans have to reach waaay back to 1998 (the GST election) to find an example of his alleged bravery says it all.

    http://mumble.com.au/?p=2152

  27. 1977
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Well our moderator has already recognised his distinction as the dumbest person to ever post on the blog.

    No, I haven’t.

  28. 1978
    cud chewer
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Oh this is mint.. Minchin getting laughed at for further pushing climategate..

  29. 1979
    confessions
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    ShowsOn: Minchin attacks CRU and says ‘climategate’ is real. He is laughed into oblivion by audience. You will love it. :D

  30. 1980
    vp
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Symonds asked for an opinion, was getting one, then interrupted. Dill.

  31. 1981
    The Finnigans
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Michin has gone feral

    As i said last night, everyone on PB has gone feral. Now Minchin, I blame it on Diog.

  32. 1982
    Eratosthenes
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Adele decided to caucus with Troy

    LOL :)

  33. 1983
    BK
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Christine Milne has scrubbed up pretty well.

  34. 1984
    vp
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Don’t get into an argument with Penny.

  35. 1985
    The Finnigans
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Christine has a good brain and speaks well. Threee months in a reeducation camp and she’d be fine.

    VP, i can arrange.

  36. 1986
    ShowsOn
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    There’s nothing in that study that says the ABC is matching it’s content to its readership. The major complaint is that they’re not, that they’re leaning to the right.

    Again, I don’t think it is the job of the ABC to match the ideology of their readership.

    That study is about how much people isolate themselves from media sources that oppose their ideological outlook. That study suggests that a slight majority of left leaners, compared to right leaners, access the ABC website.

    If, say, 55% of this country lean left, then anything that shows 55% left-leaning readership is bang on the average.

    Again, I disagree. It isn’t the job of the ABC to match the ideology of what is most likely a temporary majority. At some stage the Liberals will have 55% of the 2pp vote in polls, I think it would be completely wrong for the ABC to them modify its output to match the change in the polls which I beleive is the implication of your posts.

  37. 1987
    Scarpat
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Will I have to pay Rudd’s big new mining tax?

    :grin:

  38. 1988
    TheTruthHurts
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    BHP has been in a downtrend longer. Its most recent high was $44.63 on 6 April. As at close of business last friday it closed at $40.75. So it was off 8.6% before before the governments announcement

    Thats BS.

    News of Rudd’s great big new miners tax was floating around as early as Monday last week.

    The markets react to new information, this information was rumour last week and confirmed this week. To say that the sharemarket hadn’t already began to react last week is incorrect.

  39. 1989
    vp
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Finns,

    Does it involve shark jumping?

  40. 1990
    vp
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    The tweets they’re showing are dreadful.

  41. 1991
    Posted Monday, May 3, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    New thread.

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