The latest Morgan face-to-face poll, conducted last weekend from a sample of 1143, has Labor’s two-party lead at 53.5-46.5, using the more reliable method of allocating minor party and independent preferences according to the last election (Morgan is still using the preference distributions from 2007, but those from 2010 were not significantly different). This is down from 54.5-45.5 a week ago. Labor’s primary vote is steady on 40.5 per cent, the Coalition is up 1.5 per cent to 41 per cent and the Greens are down two to 13 per cent.
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professionals fear nothing more than a talented amateur.
The day Ruphert pops his clogs and the family business disintegrates the better the world will be.
What a lily livered approach…what about a command of summons?
http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/senate/dailys/ds120208.pdf
While Abbott is trashing Westminster conventions, I wonder if he would ignore the GG’s desire and stay put in the House during her speech; maybe pass a motion of no-confidence…
redwombat
To redirect to Roophurt some else’s quote (wtte):
“I would not wish you dead but if the world were to stop spinning and you fell off, I would throw a big party that day and on the anniversary every year after.”
re. parliament, I believe tomorrow is ceremonial, the GG will open parliament, and give a speech outlining the (ie her) Govts program.
Either after the opening or first thing on Wednesday will be the election of the speaker and deputy speaker.
QT won’t be until Wednesday – and even then QT will start with speeches on various motions -e.g. condolence motions for the dead soldiers.
Shame on you James Massola. Is this what you became a journalist to do? To be part of an attempt, by intimidation, to stifle dissent against the views your employers? To be an agent for those who have decided that it is they, not the people, who decide who should govern Australia?
How ironic it is when those who would portray themselves when it suits them as defenders of free speech are the very ones who start to suppress it.
Before writing this I wondered if my reaction was over the top. On reflection I think not. Australia is heading into very dangerous territory here. The dominant media power in the country is working in tandem with a man who will do anything, trash any institution, break any promise, for power.
The outing of Grog is a relatively small part of this process, but combined with the latest attack on Oakeshott shows the pattern. Some journalists face a huge choice – do they really want to be part of this or will they stand up against it. Advertisers like ANZ should be clear on what they are supporting too.
I am trying to eat a bacon sandwich for lunch. My four terriers are watching me; they are salivating, licking their lips and watching for a crumb to drop. They are very nervous as I get to the last few mouthfuls. Will they get any? I am so glad they are more socialised that Tony Abbott.
(BTW, the tail-waggers don’t know it but I have some bacon-rind out aside just for them.)
Blimey the Opposition are a cheeky mob of “B’s”.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/27/3022677.htm?section=justin
People can choose the time of their death and commit suicide in the majority of cases eg the lady who didn’t have cancer. In most cases there is no need to medicalise death. There are very rare cases when this can’t happen and these are the problematic ones.
I believe this was from Pyne’s i/v with Fran this morning on RN.
He justified everything because Labor had broken their promise on “no carbon tax”.
John Reidy
So QT will effectively be held on Thursday?
and thereafter recommence on the 18th Oct?
PTMD
You have four terriers??
I wish people would recognise the distinction between euthanasia and assisted suicide. Euthanasia is when it is agreed to kill someone (or let them die) when they don’t have the ability to decide for themselves – such as newborns with gross deformities or someone in a coma, for example. Assisted suicide is when a person decides for themselves that they want to do but need assistance to peform the deed. All the legislation I’ve seen proposed in Australia is for assisted suicide. The two both raise difficult issues, but not the same issues.
dio, this is true, but as things stand, it seems there can be some significant problems for people left behind depending on what they do to help. also, while attempting to kill yourself can be relatively easy, succeeding is often less so. i feel that there should be an option to let doctors help, seeing as they are the experts. (sorry, i couldn’t help myself there, allied health…
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given that people will be living longer and medical innovation improving, our ability to manage a condition will exceed quality of life more often. i think it will get less rare and health professionals will be less able to avoid it.
Goshome
Yes, what happened to freedom of speech? I did not read anywhere that Grog was inciting violence or was a danger to the peace of society. It is a disgrace.
And you know, even though Gillard has the support of 76 MHRs, she should really give Abbott government… err… in the name of the new political paradigm…
TSOP
Why couldn’t the good folt of SA, vote this pain out?
John Reidy
Thanks for overview – meeting shifted from tomorrow arvo to Wednesdy morning
Psephos
Euthanasia can be voluntary, involuntary or non-voluntary.
oops folt = folk!
victoria
It’s classic thuggery again. “Don’t speak out, or we’ll destroy you.”
TSOP
May Karma bite them all in the backside!
psephos, assisted suicide + enduring power of attorney/guardianship = de facto euthanasia. at least to my reckoning.
Anony
All of those comments are true. GG is right when he says euthanasia isn’t a religious debate. Only 40% of doctors support it with the same opposing it. It’s bloody difficult.
Here is the schedule for the opening of Parliament tomorrow
Looks like the speaker is elected around 11:30 AM tomorrow
http://www.aph.gov.au/house/opening_program.pdf
I’m sure most doctors would be decidely uncooperative in being conscripted as the conduits for killing people.
Because he had more money than god to defend himself with. Also, in the Eastern suburbs exist a combination of the upper crust of Adelaide (who are convinced that the Howard years were this country’s golden age) and ultrareligious folks, who would never support “HER”
Anyway, even if he lost, he’d probably worm his way into the next Liberal Senate ticket.
Euthanasia literally means a good death. It refers to the assisted shortening of a life for reasons of avoiding suffering.
Dio
I finished reading the Nixon-Kissinger book. Worthwhile, particularly as we enter into an interesting period of the political process here. Personally, I might have prefered to have read the Epilogue first as an introduction (but that could be just me, having read and written too many powerpoint presentations to be altogether healthy).
When I replaced the book on the shelf, I saw another book, Politics of Rage by Dan Carterm which I read a few years ago, but I thought was also very good (biography of George Wallace of Alabama)
GG
This one certainly would be. I’d refuse. There will always be some who would though like the doctors who put in the drips in the US to carry out executions. I’m not saying they are wrong but it’s not for me.
red and blue books from Treasury released under FOI are quite a good read, one after the other to see what is similar and what is different in what was being advised – lots of commonality, differences in emphasis
the big issues? climate change, health, tax approach, COAG capability to deliver
nothing on Boats (maybe this is the blacked out bit)
available on http://www.petermartin.com.au (expand the Henry review article)
madcyril
perfecto; thanks much
Hopefully an end to all this Speaker stuff.
Assisted Suicide/Euthanasia is a very difficult and sensitive debate that goes beyond just religious fundamentalism or “political cowardice”. There are some real concerns that need to be addressed and safeguards need to be adamantly put in place (if possible.) GG was right to bring up the individual who thought she had cancer and died via AS. It’s not an easy debate but it is good we are having it. Namecalling against opponents or proponents is not helpful. This debate needs to go beyond the normal ideological dichotomy.
Laocoon
Thanks for that. I’ll read the epilogue as an intro.
I’m reading Peter Gay’s bio of Freud which is fascinating. Freud kept burning his notes and correspondence to piss off his biographers!!
TSOP
One can only hope that he gets a prolonged case of Laryngitis that lasts months! Only way to shut him up!!
Alas, in this universe, we have to design fate. We need to make sure they don’t get away with their nasty crap.
Greensborough Growler@2377
Maybe. But some would. They are even operating to remove kidney stones these days…
there is a bit of business to be conducted tomorrow after the ceremonies – this from the Senate:
New thread.
PM expected to announce climate change committee: Sky News.
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