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Matters related thereto

Roy Morgan has spared the government a new set of poll results this week, presumably holding over last weekend’s face-to-face results for a combined two weeks’ result to be published next week. So here’s some stuff that has accumulated during my recent period of indolence:

• The federal parliament’s Joint Standing Committee of Electoral Matters brought down its report into the 2010 federal election a fortnight ago. One noteworthy innovation is a less pompous report title, “The 2010 Federal Election: Report on the conduct of the election and related matters” replacing the traditional formulation of “Report on the conduct of the (insert year) federal election and matters related thereto”. Antony Green summarises its recommendations here; now that my holidays are over I’ll shortly get around to reviewing it and will have more to say after I’ve fully absorbed it.

• One of the majority report’s recommendations was that the federal government follow the example of New South Wales and Victoria in allowing government records such as drivers licences, vehicle registration and Year 12 school enrolments to be used to automatically update the electoral roll. However, this is opposed in the dissenting JSCEM report from the committee’s Coalition members, for reasons I do not find persuasive. Antony Green has reviewed the impact of such measures in New South Wales since their introduction last year, observing that only 12 per cent of the 70,000 people whose enrolments have been added or updated have taken the trouble to enrol the old-fashioned way for the federal electoral roll. His conclusion: “On the evidence so far, by the time of the next commonwealth election in the second half of 2013, there could be as many as 200,000 voters enrolled for NSW elections and eligible to vote at commonwealth elections who will be missing from the commonwealth roll or be enrolled at the wrong address.”

• Draft electoral redistribution boundaries have recently been published for both our nation’s territory parliaments. Antony Green surveys the results for the Northern Territory here and the Australian Capital Territory here. An ACT redistribution would normally be of minor interest, as the territory is only divided into three electorates for purposes of a regionally based system of proportional representation, but Antony asserts that in this case the changes are radical enough to be of substantial interest, and in particular to put at risk the fourth seat the Greens won at the 2008 election. For the Northern Territory, Antony has calculated new margins for each of the 25 seats, with the caveat that the enormous sitting member factors which result from pocket-sized electorates of 4000 to 5000 voters make party-based margins less reliable than usual.

• There has been much talk lately about the possibility of an incoming Coalition government calling an early double dissolution election should it meet Senate resistance from its efforts to abolish a carbon tax. Tony Abbott’s argument to those concerned about the resulting uncertainty and expense is that opposing its repeal in the Senate would be politically suicidal for a defeated Labor Party, a case pursued by Queensland legal academic James Allan in The Australian.

There was a fair bit of material I had been compiling on Western Australian matters to coincide with a looming quarterly state Newspoll, but I was caught on the hop when it was published a month earlier than I’d anticipated.

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  1. Suit yourselves, of course.

    by This little black duck on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm

  2. 631
    Glen
    Posted Saturday, July 23, 2011 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    There is a problem for both parties re: future leaders…

    In my view the Liberals face difficult problems and are in just as bad a position as Labor.

    Taking Tony Abbott out of the equation who’s left??

    1. Joe Hockey – Has been mooted as a possible future leader but never really had his heart in the 2009 push and botched it by saying he’d have a free vote on the ETS. He’s got a young family and doesnt want the job. In addition he has not performed well as shadow treasurer.

    2. Malcolm Turnbull – Former leader of the Party. Lost the 2009 Leadership Ballot by 1 vote and has been much maligned ever since by the Party. Performed well as shadow treasurer against Swan regularly getting on top of him in Parliament under Nelson. Holds a vastly different political view on climate change that many Liberals count as their reason for being 60/40 ahead. Obviously wants the top job and has ambition to lead the country unlike Mr Hockey. No doubt any return to the leadership would see the same sniping from the bleachers from the likes of Bernardi et al. Remains a good communicator and has an air of authority and competency and statesmanship that Abbott doesnt have.

    3. Julie Bishop – The loyal deputy indeed. From the powerful WA faction of the Liberal Party but leave aside the Libs have never came close to a leader from WA since Holt died and Hasluck ran for the Leadership. Would be the first female leader of the Liberal Party so a plus there. Has poor communication skills and appears to have a wooden personality at least when presenting to the media. Has performed poorly as both shadow treasurer and foreign minister and would probably not remain in Parliament past the next election should the Liberals fail to win in 2013.

    4. Scott Morrison / Andrew Robb

    The dark horses but neither having near the gravitas or appeal to the wider electorate. Morrison has been chained by the unpopular immigration portfolio and has yet to cut his teeth in a senior portfolio. Mr Robb on the other hand while competent in his work has no charisma or communication skills when it comes to presenting to the media. Maybe a good Deputy Leader but never PM material in my mind.

    5. Mal Brough

    The much malinged by the Left on PB. Mal Brough should take Slippers seat of Fisher in 2013. In such a case he would obtain a portfolio and could well be ready made leadership material given his good communication skills and being from a State the Liberals are set to dominate in post 2013 politics. An effective and compassionate Minister he remained one of the few Ministers who urged Howard to resign in 2007 and despite losing his electorate (now held by Wyatt Roy LNP) in the meltdown of Kevin07 took with him very little of the vitriol and tarnish from the final years of the Howard government.

    In the end this leaves few options and neither of them risk free. Of course Tony Abbott could be PM in 2 years time who knows but if leadership tensions continue and/or Abbott loses the next election…God help the next leader IMHO.

    I can’t speak for Labor others are better qualified to do thus but I should point who are the possible candidates to either assume the leadership before the election or after should Gillard lose.

    1. Stephen Smith – Competent Minister and good communication whilst a numbers man himself does not have any negative stigma attached to him because of this and despite coming from WA would be a good leader for Labor.

    2. Simon Crean – Would have no chance if Labor lost in 2013 but could be drafted before the election which is his only (slim chance) of becoming PM. A safe pair of hands rather like Smith.

    3. Greg Combet – Performed well as Minister for climate change and a good communicator. Has not held a senior portfolio for a long period and while he has good leadership experience as the head of the ACTU has not been in Parliament for too long. Would be a candidate should Labor lose in 2013.

    4. Bill Shorten – A man who was involved in the coup against Rudd. Has not held a senior portfolio and apparently doesnt have the numbers regardless. Has the desire to be PM but probably wishful thinking at least at the moment.

    5. Tony Burke – Having a leader from NSW would be a plus, he’s an excellent communicator and has a dry wit about him in Parliament. He’s regularly held senior portfolios and has extensive Parliamentary experience. He would be a great leader for Labor should they lose in 2013.

    6. Wayne Swan – Would probably lose his seat in 2013 if Labor lost and I couldnt see him becoming PM before hand. No chance IMHO.

    Something to chew on Bludgers…

    I can really only see Brough and Turnbull as future leaders and Burke and Combet for Labor and they’re probably long shots the lot of them.

    by Glen on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm

  3. :c:

    by janice2 on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm

  4. Charlton….if you are here I have just come across your post in the previous mentioning Arthur Sinodinos. I have a friend who taught him at University and considers him the smartest person he ever taught or met.Sinodinos apparently did two Ph’ds concurrently. I add that I have never heard anyone here question his intelligence. My mate is a Labor supporter.

    by PoK on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:10 pm

  5. I call the boofhead Mr Abbott out of respect for the office he holds.

    ‘Leader of the Opposition’ is more appropriate in that case IMO. Much like references to ‘the PM’.

    by confessions on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:10 pm

  6. OOPS – Who has been playing with my keyboard?

    by janice2 on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:12 pm

  7. These are the flaky so-called climate sceptics who would be in charge if the Libs won power. Andrew Robb is still pedalling “uncertainty”. Menzies House apparently called Turnbull a “traitor”.

    Mr Turnbull insisted he had not deviated from Liberal Party policy, which recognises human-caused climate change and the Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, said Mr Turnbull was entitled to ''put things in his own way''.

    But the Nationals Senator Barnaby Joyce criticised Mr Turnbull's ''self-management'' and the frontbencher Andrew Robb said there were ''wide-ranging views in the community about the science'', with ''some peer-reviewed science contradicting the so-called scientific consensus'' and some science that formed part of the global warming consensus ''not peer-reviewed at all.''

    http://www.theage.com.au/environment/climate-change/liberals-seethe-over-turnbulls-carbon-stance-20110722-1hszv.html#ixzz1Suyn23dW

    by lizzie on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:15 pm

  8. Hard to know how we can keep going with this do-nothing government (sarcasm alert)
    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/environment/pm-out-to-broker-forestry-deal-20110723-1htzp.html#ixzz1SuvzyT1z

    Thanks for that! Will be interesting to see how it gets reported if she successfully brokers a deal, which seems likely. And this line “”There’s a real opportunity to be seized here and I believe we should seize it.” nicely sums up the unique circumstances of her Government, even with the polls making many think she’s a failure.

    by rishane on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:18 pm

  9. Mod Lib:

    I know there’s no rule or convention requiring a response to another’s post, but if you’re lurking I would like to know on what evidence do you base your premise that the PM’s tenure is numbered in months.

    I look forward to your response in due course, if not sooner.

    by charlton on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:19 pm

  10. ‘Leader of the Opposition’ is more appropriate...

    Not really because he is not leading anything, he has few loyal followers and none who are willing to walk all the way out on his plank with him.

    by ruawake on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:22 pm

  11. Glen:

    Thanks for re-posting. My thoughts.

    If you suggest JBishop will depart politics should the coalition lose the next election, then I think you have to admit Robb will leave too. So will many others who really should’ve gone after the 2007 loss in order to transition the Liberals to the next generation, but hung on for goodness knows what reasons.

    As for Labor, you’ve omitted Jason Clare, who is a future Labor leader, and Mark Butler who is also leadership material. You also don’t mention Mike Kelly, who is under-utilised at present from my perspective, and Kate Ellis who is being ‘mentored’ (not the right word, but it’s too late in the day to be literate) by the leadership team. Will Crean retire at the next election? He’s been a very committed, dedicated and solid performer throughout his career, so he’d well be entitled to it.

    by confessions on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:29 pm

  12. feeney @ 1103

    I was meaning we, the Labor movement, and the PM in particular, should not mention him by name.

    It was a very successful tactic used by Bob Carr against Kerry whatever-her-last-name-is did in one NSW election. It is one way of not acknowledging your opponents or their legitimacy.

    In fact I think Carr referred to them as “our opponents” throughout the entire campaign and did not mention her by name, title, or the Opposition.

    We should start doing that here and in the media. I abhor absolutely references to “Tone” “Tony” etc on this site. It acknowledges him as some one of standing. Perhaps I’m wrong here.

    Anyway, fortwith I’ll be referring to Abbott as the LOTO. At least, it will make me feel better!!

    I’m with you on this and I have taken to referring to the PM as Prime Minister Gillard and advise all here to do the same.

    Let’s clearly differentiate between the PM and her opponent. And let’s clearly elevate her as befits her office.

    Maybe it will catch on with her staff, ALP MPs and even the MSM.

    by bemused on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:31 pm

  13. Feeney: I said something along those lines a couple of days ago.

    However, I would take it one step further. Rather than not using his name, I would be clear in referring to his every utterance as “the Liberal Party is now saying…” or, even better, “the COALITION is now saying …”

    Up until now he has been able to get away with varying changes in position because he is Tony Abbott. It is a given that this is what he does and so the media ignore it. However, if these utterances were given the gravitas as coming from the party – or the Coalition – as a whole, I suspect those who disagree with his position on many things might start getting a bit restive.

    Turnbull has started the ball rolling, but I image a few others, both in the Liberal Party and in the National Party, would be very uncomfortable at the thought of not only sitting with the Head Dunce, but having it made clear that he is speaking on behalf of ALL OF THEM.

    by Danny Lewis on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:31 pm

  14. Glen @ 1107

    rishane i think I have been neither an attention seeker nor a stirrer on PB today.

    Trying to re-establish lost credibility?

    You did yourself a lot of damage over the past few days and have a long way to go.

    by bemused on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:34 pm

  15. Not really because he is not leading anything, he has few loyal followers and none who are willing to walk all the way out on his plank with him.

    He occupies the office of Leader of the Opposition. If that’s the office you respect, then you should refer to that rather than the boofhead who occupies it.

    By extension, if he’s not really leading anything, has a few loyal followers, but nobody who wants to commit hari kari with him, then this implies that even his partyroom don’t respect him for the office he occupies. If they don’t, then why should we?

    by confessions on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:35 pm

  16. Our local member played the ‘don’t name your opposite number’ game at the last election.

    We called her on it; said that she was either out of touch, ignorant or rude.

    One of the local papers took this point so much to heart that, when quoting her, it would put our candidate’s name in brackets whereever she said “my opponent”.

    by zoomster on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:37 pm

  17. Glen

    Will you please get over the fantasy that Mal Brough will win pre-selection for Fisher. He will not.

    Slipper will go when he feels like it and then his anointed successor will take over, with the blessing of the various church groups who hold all of the power in the local LNP branches.

    by ruawake on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:37 pm

  18. PoK @ 116

    Posted Saturday, July 23, 2011 at 7:10 pm | Permalink
    Charlton….if you are here I have just come across your post in the previous mentioning Arthur Sinodinos. I have a friend who taught him at University and considers him the smartest person he ever taught or met.Sinodinos apparently did two Ph’ds concurrently. I add that I have never heard anyone here question his intelligence. My mate is a Labor supporter.

    He’s as modest as he’s smart then; for I’ve never heard him being referred to as Dr. Sinodinos.

    From my little knowledge of him, I think the current Tory leadership would be shaking in their boots and high-heels if he ever considered Canberra, as would the ALP.

    I thank you for that additional insight.

    by charlton on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:39 pm

  19. Sinodinos has turned down the option to run for pre-selection in prime blue ribbon seats before, I think it is safe to say he is too smart to be an elected pollie.

    by ruawake on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:42 pm

  20. One of the local papers took this point so much to heart that, when quoting her, it would put our candidate’s name in brackets whereever she said “my opponent”.

    Was that the Border Mail?

    From what I’ve noticed of their online reporting they always drag up the most awful photos of Sophie to accompany stories about her.

    by confessions on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:43 pm

  21. Vacant side of abbotts brain surely you jest BOTH SIDES ARE VACANT,you may have missed the sign

    by canasta76 on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:45 pm

  22. Sinodinos, for all his kudos as a backroom operative, wrote those embarrassing ‘I am Spartacus!’ articles about Tone.

    I hope that his days as NSW Lib President cause him to look back in utter humiliation at those nauseating and cringe-worthy columns, and that if he ever again finds himself in need of some kind of gainful employment, that he bypasses any offers the OO throws his way.

    by confessions on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:49 pm

  23. bemused @ 1124:

    I’m with you on this and I have taken to referring to the PM as Prime Minister Gillard and advise all here to do the same.

    I always refer to her in my posts as the PM & I suppose it’s only seven more strikes to add “Gillard.”

    I refer to Abbott as “Abbott” as I have no respect for him whatsoever.

    by charlton on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:49 pm

  24. Trivia time;

    Who said?

    that the "safety and sovereignty of the United States" was the paramount issue facing the country" and appeared to endorse racial and religious profiling as a way to get "tough" on terrorism: "It's not the Norwegians that are doing this. We know who it is; we can't seem to say it." ABC, This Week, 1/31/10

    Clue

    It is someone that TUT would bow and scrape to.

    He should invite TUT over to the US as he would have no problem saying it.

    None other than the dirty little digger from Delawares right hand man.

    And how apt is the header on the video.

    http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201001310012

    by Gaffhook on Jul 23, 2011 at 7:55 pm

  25. Glen, excellent post #1114.

    by Scarpat on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:00 pm

  26. charlton @ 1135

    I must admit I have been a bit all over the place in the past but am trying to standardise on my terminology, having given the matter some thought.

    by bemused on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:02 pm

  27. confessions @ 1134:

    Sinodinos, for all his kudos as a backroom operative, wrote those embarrassing ‘I am Spartacus!’ articles about Tone.

    I hope that his days as NSW Lib President cause him to look back in utter humiliation at those nauseating and cringe-worthy columns, and that if he ever again finds himself in need of some kind of gainful employment, that he bypasses any offers the OO throws his way.

    I wasn’t aware he authored the ‘I am Spartacus Articles.’ In fact, I never read them but will google them.

    Nevertheless I still maintain that he’s one smart cookie, whose talents will be wasted in what is essentially a ceremonial role.

    But thanks for a further insight into the man.

    by charlton on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:03 pm

  28. ruawake 1131:

    Sinodinos has turned down the option to run for pre-selection in prime blue ribbon seats before, I think it is safe to say he is too smart to be an elected pollie.

    If he has not already, he’ll probably go down the corporate route.

    by charlton on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:07 pm

  29. charlton
    Posted Saturday, July 23, 2011 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    I refer to Abbott as “Abbott” as I have no respect for him whatsoever.

    Same here. Only he gets lower case quite deliberately – as all conservatives do.

    by dave on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:12 pm

  30. I’m feeling all lonely. Saturdays make me sad. I can hear all the people with real social lives out there partying it up. :(

    Maybe Mary Jo experienced similar feelings and this led to her shoplifting incident. They say a lot of people (often women) steal for the rush they get, rather than because of any economic need. Maybe she was getting a high from sneaking out without paying. Maybe it was a sort of self-medicating for her depression.

    by Two Piece Feed on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:19 pm

  31. dave @ 1141:

    charlton

    Posted Saturday, July 23, 2011 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    I refer to Abbott as “Abbott” as I have no respect for him whatsoever.

    Same here. Only he gets lower case quite deliberately – as all conservatives do.

    We’ll be in trouble if he ever gets to the job.

    I’m thinking: PM abbott.

    by charlton on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:24 pm

  32. abbott. em tasol.

    by dave on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:27 pm

  33. Thefinnigans The Finnigans
    “Once the identity of the attackers becomes known, the consequences for Andrew Bolt’s immigration policies could be profound” #pathetic
    8 seconds ago

    by The Finnigans on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:30 pm

  34. PNG to take asylum seeker plan to cabinet

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/png-to-take-asylum-seeker-plan-to-cabinet/story-e6frf7jx-1226100453336

    by victoria on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:31 pm

  35. The Fiinnigans

    Has the esteemed Bolt had anything further to say on the matter?

    by victoria on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:32 pm

  36. Vic, he has bolted away his big big mouth

    by The Finnigans on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:34 pm

  37. The Finnigans

    Bolt should shut his mouth permanently. He has polluted the environment long enough

    by victoria on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:37 pm

  38. Two Piece Feed 1142:

    I’m feeling all lonely. Saturdays make me sad. I can hear all the people with real social lives out there partying it up.

    Maybe Mary Jo experienced similar feelings and this led to her shoplifting incident. They say a lot of people (often women) steal for the rush they get, rather than because of any economic need. Maybe she was getting a high from sneaking out without paying. Maybe it was a sort of self-medicating for her depression.

    Making light of someone who is allegedly suffering from depression is the pits.

    I’m sure if you suffered from this condition or have lost relatives or friends from depression you might change tack.

    It’s truly a terrible affliction which, contrary to some views expressed earlier herein, is often impossible to treat successfully & which does result in suicide.

    Sufferers usually self-medicate by using prescription or illicit drugs and/or alcohol, not getting a high from shop-lifting. Anyway, that’s my experience.

    I suggest you read some of briefly’s earlier posts on this subject.

    But please temper your remarks re. this subject.

    by charlton on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:39 pm

  39. Right-wing politicians, shock jocks and angry emailers have raged against
    Muslim extremists for years.

    Will they now turn their attention to right-wing born-again Christians?

    by Toorak Toff on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm

  40. Vic, he has bolted away his big big mouth

    Perhaps he’s been reading too many Arthur Sinodinos ‘I am Spartacus!’ columns, pretending to be one of the masses. He forgot sometimes the masses can do revolting too.

    by confessions on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm

  41. Toorak Toff

    Posted Saturday, July 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Right-wing politicians, shock jocks and angry emailers have raged against
    Muslim extremists for years.

    Will they now turn their attention to right-wing born-again Christians?

    We will find out in a few hours on #ohmike – if a certain lemur isn’t hung up on last night by the producer as soon as he identified himself.

    by Frank Calabrese on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:44 pm

  42. julieposetti +1 MT @antloewenstein @Wendy_Bacon tells @JHutcheon why it's vital to have a thorough review of Oz corp media #hackgate abc.net.au/news/2011-07-2…
    3 minutes ago

    by victoria on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:52 pm

  43. here is link

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-22/one-plus-one—friday-22-july/2806322

    by victoria on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:53 pm

  44. Looks like the seppos are getting fair dinkum with Roo and his myrmidons now that subpoenas are going to be issued.
    I do recall one of the pommie pollies asking Jimmy if he was aware of the term “willful blindness”

    Phone hacking: US authorities preparing to subpoena News Corp

    According to the Journal, the subpoenas will be broadly cast to draw information from the company relevant to the investigation, though final approval has yet to be granted by top justice department officials. In addition, it has emerged that federal prosecutors have begun probing allegations that News Corp's advertising arm in the US hacked into a computer of a competitor as part of a campaign to crush its rival.

    A lawyer for the smaller company, Floorgraphics, told NBC he was visited by two federal prosecutors and an FBI agent. News Corp declined to comment on the legal moves.......................................

    FCPA experts have suggested that it could be brought under the auspices of the act because News of the World journalists bribed police officers in the UK in search of exclusive stories that in turn increased sales and generated profits.

    It is not a defence for News Corp executives to argue that they were unaware of the bribery. Under the FCPA, a company can still be penalised if it should have known – what is called “willful blindness”.

    News Corp could also come under the scrutiny of the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), which is jointly responsible with the justice department for policing the FCPA.

    The SEC will want to know whether News Corp properly declared all its activities in its accounts or whether it tried to hide any bribes made within the UK under false accounting returns.

    It is not known precisely what information investigators are seeking from News Corp under the subpoenas, but it could include News of the World accounts which would then be examined by forensic accountants.

    News Corp itself seems to be most anxious about the FCPA side of the federal investigations, judging from the legal team it has assembled – some of the heaviest hitters in American legal affairs.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/22/phone-hacking-authorities-subpoena-news-corp

    by Gaffhook on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm

  45. I would have thought Murdochs disgraced media would have tried to be a little less sensational given their current standing, but no it is business as usual…what a bludy disgraceful front page

    melbourneninja melbourneninja
    by sspencer_63
    #Oslo terrorist is a right-wing, anti-Muslim, Christian extremist. But The Sun newspaper blames al-Qaeda

    http://t.co/ilS6dTI

    by david on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:58 pm

  46. Gaff

    rupe stuffed up with the #notw fiasco

    now he is in a corner

    by gusface on Jul 23, 2011 at 8:59 pm

  47. Whats with you Charlton,her having depression hasnt been established yet so at best all she is entitled to is benefit of the doubt.

    by canasta76 on Jul 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm

  48. Watching Obama on the news responding the Norway attacks, he seemed to be implying it was “international terrorism” responsible for the bombing and shootings, whereas our PM simply said our thoughts are with Norwegians during these times of evil.

    by confessions on Jul 23, 2011 at 9:07 pm

  49. fredn
    Posted Saturday, July 23, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    david
    Posted Saturday, July 23, 2011 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
    ….
    what an odd comment from you fredn

    It is, isn’t it.

    As she was a member of the left faction, perhaps she is where she wants to be and considers it a big advantage that the independents are protecting her form the normal random behaviour one now expects from the Labor right when the poll dip.

    I’m pretty dam sure the Labor right isn’t happy about where they are, but what is their alternative, Rudd who openly despises the lot of them. Crean is their white Knight; ROFL laughing.

    A pretty astute observation of the political reality, fredn. It’s not just the indies, albeit that is the primary one, but the perception that revolving door leadership will further undermine Labor support, especially considering NSW.

    I think it has emboldened Gillard and the ministry to go for more reform. The ministers themselves are now having much more say than previously. Smith is probably the first one on either side to take on the defence bureaucracy and brass. (He could probably get some moral support from Robert Hill and Reith who both felt badly about what Defence got away with.)

    I’d like to think reform is not finished with an election 2 years off and likely Green Senate support for any genuine efforts. A few here have mentioned either abolishing negative gearing (maybe a bridge too far) or halving it and using those funds to do something about housing affordability. Middle class welfare on private medical cover is another which may allow a little more infrastructure money for hospitals and health care.

    Quite a few possibilities once carbon pricing is bedded down.

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Jul 23, 2011 at 9:10 pm

  50. Watching Obama on the news responding the Norway attacks, he seemed to be implying it was “international terrorism” responsible for the bombing and shootings, whereas our PM simply said our thoughts are with Norwegians during these times of evil.

    He seriously said that? Its one thing for a nutter like Bolt to try and blame terrorism, but for the American president to say something that wrong, geez.

    by rishane on Jul 23, 2011 at 9:10 pm

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