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Matters related thereto

Roy Morgan has spared the government a new set of poll results this week, presumably holding over last weekend’s face-to-face results for a combined two weeks’ result to be published next week. So here’s some stuff that has accumulated during my recent period of indolence:

• The federal parliament’s Joint Standing Committee of Electoral Matters brought down its report into the 2010 federal election a fortnight ago. One noteworthy innovation is a less pompous report title, “The 2010 Federal Election: Report on the conduct of the election and related matters” replacing the traditional formulation of “Report on the conduct of the (insert year) federal election and matters related thereto”. Antony Green summarises its recommendations here; now that my holidays are over I’ll shortly get around to reviewing it and will have more to say after I’ve fully absorbed it.

• One of the majority report’s recommendations was that the federal government follow the example of New South Wales and Victoria in allowing government records such as drivers licences, vehicle registration and Year 12 school enrolments to be used to automatically update the electoral roll. However, this is opposed in the dissenting JSCEM report from the committee’s Coalition members, for reasons I do not find persuasive. Antony Green has reviewed the impact of such measures in New South Wales since their introduction last year, observing that only 12 per cent of the 70,000 people whose enrolments have been added or updated have taken the trouble to enrol the old-fashioned way for the federal electoral roll. His conclusion: “On the evidence so far, by the time of the next commonwealth election in the second half of 2013, there could be as many as 200,000 voters enrolled for NSW elections and eligible to vote at commonwealth elections who will be missing from the commonwealth roll or be enrolled at the wrong address.”

• Draft electoral redistribution boundaries have recently been published for both our nation’s territory parliaments. Antony Green surveys the results for the Northern Territory here and the Australian Capital Territory here. An ACT redistribution would normally be of minor interest, as the territory is only divided into three electorates for purposes of a regionally based system of proportional representation, but Antony asserts that in this case the changes are radical enough to be of substantial interest, and in particular to put at risk the fourth seat the Greens won at the 2008 election. For the Northern Territory, Antony has calculated new margins for each of the 25 seats, with the caveat that the enormous sitting member factors which result from pocket-sized electorates of 4000 to 5000 voters make party-based margins less reliable than usual.

• There has been much talk lately about the possibility of an incoming Coalition government calling an early double dissolution election should it meet Senate resistance from its efforts to abolish a carbon tax. Tony Abbott’s argument to those concerned about the resulting uncertainty and expense is that opposing its repeal in the Senate would be politically suicidal for a defeated Labor Party, a case pursued by Queensland legal academic James Allan in The Australian.

There was a fair bit of material I had been compiling on Western Australian matters to coincide with a looming quarterly state Newspoll, but I was caught on the hop when it was published a month earlier than I’d anticipated.

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  1. I thought she was going to plead insanity!

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-22/mary-jo-fisher-facing-charges/2806888

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/liberal-senator-mary-jo-fisher-arrested-for-shoplifting-assault/story-e6frea83-1226100010591

    by charlton on Jul 24, 2011 at 11:55 am

  2. Heard Andrew Robb say this morning that the Senator fled through ‘panic’, and that she was in the midst of changing medications. Surely it’s better for them to keep quiet until the court case?

    by lizzie on Jul 24, 2011 at 11:57 am

  3. “The continuing focus on the disastrous polls will be the narrative of the msm. The polls will only improve if Abbott stumbles.”

    Polls of today’s kind are being used by Murdoch media as a tool to destabilise the government. Any inquiry that the government runs should include their manipulative effect as well as the role of special interest group advertising campaigns.

    by joe2 on Jul 24, 2011 at 11:58 am

  4. joe2

    By the time the inquiries are up and running, it may be too late for Labor

    by victoria on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:00 pm

  5. JD

    So, where is the ‘liberal’ bit?

    In the US, the bible belt and the Tea Party are all fervently pro-Israeli.

    Not necessarily so – Many are, some are not. Their elected leader, Rand Paul for instance is accused of being anti-Israel.

    Their entire liberal ideology is exposed in their posts and the make-up of the website – liberal in the neo-con mold. It is evident from the ideological bent of their heroes – Bernard Henry Levy, Daniel Pipes, Bernard Lewis, Melanie Philips – Rabid Islamophobes to a man & woman.

    Rabid right-wing nutters do not support gay rights, and do not champion Homosexual causes. This post is a call for a tactical alliance between than and the right-wing parties like the EDL, VP and Tea Party, but is also a warning about their racist nationalist tendencies.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:00 pm

  6. This made me laugh:

    CameronBurge Cameron Burge
    Oh God. Abbott on about speedos again.. Smaller ones.. STOP THE SCROTES!! #insiders

    by Dan Gulberry on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:00 pm

  7. Looked at the Guardian and some of the material on the Norwegian.

    Something is out of wack. He does not compute for me. I do not get him and I find it scary. I understand the triggers for depressed school kids/students out for revenge and glory in a depressive haze.

    I understand the guy who has lost his job/wife going berserk

    I even understand terrorists who blow something up for a political cause

    But this guy I do not get. Stunningly good looking he would not on the face of it have the sexual knock backs which trigger many other nutters. He is so good looking that I wonder if he is a “fall guy”, set up to be a martyr, because the pictures in the guardian certainly show him as charismatic

    Seems to have communication skills and is a joiner of societies etc. Not a loner. What has triggered his hatred.

    His politics of being pro homosexual, pro liberty but violently anti Muslim and pro Israeli just do not compute for me. Perhaps it just is not a political style current in Australia so I do not get it. Perhaps it is and i have not kept up (must be getting old).

    I will be much, much more comfortable if the evidence shows he has always been an out of touch loner with a string of failed relationships and unresolved sexual tension.

    by daretotread on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:01 pm

  8. Refer to your own earlier comment. The one in which you declared you would stop pontificating on others commenting on depression.

    I didn’t deny your right to express your opinion on the tragedy of depression. In fact I agree with you. It is a terrible illness for those who are genuinely afflicted by it.

    Allow me the courtesy then to express my comments without being subject to cheap epithets from you.

    You chose make the leap of logic that any reference to depression ( an issue raised raised by many scoundrels when they are caught), precludes futher discussion of it’s abuse as an exculpory factor because of it’s magical status as some sort of sacred illness.

    I’ve got news for you. Cancer, heart disease schitzophrenia, polio, diabetes are all deseases sacred to those who have them or know those who have them.

    Your apparent closeness to one disease doesn’t make it out of bounds for others to comment on in any way they chose.

    by Fulvio Sammut on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:01 pm

  9. here is Hans Rustad’s wikipedia page

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Rustad

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:02 pm

  10. daretotread

    He is a psychopath

    by victoria on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:03 pm

  11. This is going to sound crazy due to the polls, but I think Gillard has already won the policy debate on climate change. Abbott’s policy position has collapsed since the carbon tax was announced and he’s reverted back to attack (his mode of defence).

    All Gillard has to do is prosecute the case and stick to the position but right now she’s been caught up in the business of government advertising and media ethics. I think the government advertising issue is not as big as has been made out because they have first mover advantage over mining lobby.

    I think the Coalition would have been in a better position now if they were bipartisan in 2009 on climate change as they could now focus on the two speed economy and how it’s effecting small business. Adopting Turnbull’s proposition of a sovereign wealth fund would have been a smart move.

    I’m of the view that if the ALP comes back in the polls, the Coalition will have split 1950′s ALP style between moderates and conservatives/Nationals before the next election.

    by spur212 on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:05 pm

  12. joe2
    Posted Sunday, July 24, 2011 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Victoria, I heard Jon Faine say that Julia Gillard was launching “a jihad” against the media the other day and nearly turned it off. Glad I didn’t, in this case, because sensible people rang in and texted, to tell him what a dick he had made of himself.

    Didn’t hear it Joe2, although I often get Faine on the cab radio. But part of the problem is there in the presentation of the topic ‘Julia Gillard was launching “a jihad” against the media…’.

    It’s not just inflammatory language with the misuse of “jihad”. It’s a misrepresentation of what she said anyway, which wasn’t much more than flying a kite. The rest has been (mis)read into what they thought she was implying (guilty conscience, perhaps?).

    At least Faine is open to argument, and probably took the roasting he got in good faith. But it is a little sad that he joins in the same chorus initially as the rest of News Ltd.

    If ever there was evidence needed to support such an enquiry, the media reaction to it is proof.

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:06 pm

  13. 1810
    Confessions

    If Lachlan buys Roos Aus stuff that would be bye bye Hartigan.

    Why? Do the two not get on, or would Lachlan prefer to instal his own mob?

    Sorry but i have been out.

    Stephen Mayne on the Drum.

    Lachlan walked out of News Corp in 2005 with a $10 million payout and is known to have tense relations with News Ltd executive chairman John Hartigan.

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2806194.html

    by Gaffhook on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:06 pm

  14. A NEW Zealander believed to have been on Norway's Utoeya Island when a gunman killed at least 85 people is unaccounted for, foreign affairs officials said today.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/new-zealander-missing-after-massacre/story-fn3dxity-1226100657893

    Brings the attack a little closer to home.

    by confessions on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:06 pm

  15. lizzie and BK I gather you have not heard Gideon Haigh broach the subject of politics. He was once a regular on Faine and I can tell you “objective” is not a word I would use in describing his often disturbing rightish views.

    Uh oh. What did he say?

    As for the use of polls by Murdoch and co, yet more right-wing projection really. They accuse the Government of being ‘poll-driven’ (on little evidence) yet they’re the ones who are obsessed with them.

    by rishane on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:06 pm

  16. Victoria

    Hope so – Because that would explain a lot. Although the true psychopath does not usually belong to political organizations.

    Getting out of my pop psychology depth now – Medicos any comment?

    by daretotread on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:07 pm

  17. “By the time the inquiries are up and running, it may be too late for Labor”

    The opportunity is there now, victoria, and it is best they run with it regardless of the election cycle. It seems all upside to me. Something needs to done even if it is just a thorn in the Abbott foot.

    I am a lot more optimistic than you on this but the Murdoch unfolding has the potential to be a game changer like Grech being sprung and killing off Turnbull’s chances.

    by joe2 on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:08 pm

  18. Gaffhook:

    Thanks for that.

    Hartigan should go anyway IMO. I can’t believe he was kept on after the Melbourne Storm revelations.

    by confessions on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:08 pm

  19. confessions
    Posted Sunday, July 24, 2011 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    latikambourke Latika Bourke
    What background? RT @AndrewLamingMP: Sure, Gillard's background leaves her completely out of touch - but what about her mute MPs?

    What background indeed?

    Huh? Laming? Laming, of all people talking about background. Now there’s a guy that could do with a bit more background checking.

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:09 pm

  20. This is going to sound crazy due to the polls, but I think Gillard has already won the policy debate on climate change.

    I’m getting to that view too, Spur. The giveaway for me was the media calls last week for the PM to move onto some other topic because the carbon scheme was becoming boring.

    Media of course didn’t find carbon pricing boring when there were no details and Abbott was touring the country for 6mths with his hysterics.

    by confessions on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:11 pm

  21. One of the things I found very nasty in the Norway tragedy was that the gunman was dressed in police uniform (or an approximation) and called the young people out of hiding, saying rescuers had arrived and it was safe, and then shot them. That is cold–blooded intent, no question.

    by lizzie on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:11 pm

  22. sad, sympathy – no. self inflicted. many other people who are less fortunate than her, they just carry on with their lives with silence, dignity and no drama.

    Your empathy is the size of a caraway seed.

    by charlton on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:12 pm

  23. daretotread

    He is a psychopath

    Rubbish, he is a terrorist trying to send a message. He hated those people and wanted to kill them specifically. He is even more dangerous than the usual terrorist who kills randomly; he targeted those people for their progressive politics.

    When a brown person kills for political reasons he is a terrorist; when a white guy does it, people start looking for excuses why he did it – He was ‘depressed’ or ‘mentally unstable’ or a ‘nazi’. The truth is that he is a terrorist – a left wing anti-Jihadist Zionist (read anti-Muslim Zionist) one at that.

    I call this the Saint/Savages divide – when a person of colour does something despicable, it is because of their DNA, or culture, or society. When a White person does it, it is an inexplicable exception, something abnormal. Yet, a dispassionate look at the statistics will reveal that Western/White cultures sacrifice far more lives in pursuit of their political ends.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:14 pm

  24. LATIKA BOURKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by ShowsOn on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:15 pm

  25. One unavoidable implcaiton of this attack is the need to take far right extremism more seriously. Ideological blnkeredness, al Bolt and Jones, is not going to make anyone safer – in fact quite the opposite. It merely blinds us to certain threats, and is anathema to good security and intel work.

    The second implcation is that high-level illiberal fear mongering and hate speech by the likes of Bolt and Jones is a risk factor which promotes this sort of lone hand terrorism. For good or ill, they have a real following: what did they say when someone recently threatened Gillard with assassination? Nothing.

    by lefty e on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:16 pm

  26. “Uh oh. What did he say?”

    I heard Haigh and Faine do a conversation hour with Pilger. The hostility directed at Pilger was palpable and quite out of place for the segment. This is a good while back, I should say. He rather reminds me of one of those over opinionated IPA hacks, around now, actually.

    by joe2 on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:16 pm

  27. Of course it is possible that occasionally someone else blogs on his behalf. Happens occasionally I am sure.

    No it isn’t. Don’t you think the genuine evan would get on here disowning the fake one? Come on don’t try and give the bloke a silly excuse such as that.

    by Gary on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:17 pm

  28. Mmmm. So after Abbott’s swim it was found that a la Mae West he didn’t have a rod in his pocket but a bag of peanuts in his budgies.

    by RNM1953 on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:17 pm

  29. How hilarious was Stutchbury on Insiders this morning!

    It is as if he was doing a method acting version of Andew Bolt!

    Maybe Stutchberry is jealous that he doesn’t have his own TV show?

    by ShowsOn on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:18 pm

  30. JohD

    To be able to kill scores of young people with cold blooded intent. Psychopathic behaviour

    by victoria on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:18 pm

  31. evan14
    Posted Sunday, July 24, 2011 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    No talk about an 18% swing against Julia in her electorate?
    What a surprise!
    I bet if JSW did a poll in Warringah and it showed a swing against Abbott, there’d be a lot of gloating on this forum.

    It’s one of those where Mumble would draw the Mickey Mouse helmet. Only a wanker would take it seriously.

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:19 pm

  32. 1773 confessions
    Posted Sunday, July 24, 2011 at 9:07 am | Permalink
    Good morning all.

    Good on Cadel for winning that bicycle race in France. Sad news about Amy Winehouse, even though I never warmed to her music. 27 years old! What a waste.

    Agreed. They tried to make her go to rehab, but she said no, no, no.

    by smithe on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:19 pm

  33. ” I can’t believe he was kept on after the Melbourne Storm revelations.”

    Exactly. And how little is being said about the illegality involved in that little episode. It looked like a pretty good cover up in the style of Hackingate to me. Nobody including Hardo apparently had a clue was going on.

    by joe2 on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:21 pm

  34. JohD

    To be able to kill scores of young people with cold blooded intent. Psychopathic behaviour

    Typical white person rationalistion. When a person of colour kills multiple people, hell, when he just buys a dozen 5ltr bottles of hydrocloric acid, he is a terrorist. When a blond Nordic kills a hundred people with similar politics, you start searching for his Psychiatrist.

    He is a liberal Zionist terrorist. He just could not find enough Muslims in one place worth killing; like they do in Israel, so he killed the ideological traitors instead.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:23 pm

  35. “Maybe Stutchberry is jealous that he doesn’t have his own TV show?”

    Not jealousy, methinks. Smell the fear!

    by joe2 on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:23 pm

  36. I liked the way that Mischa Schubert stood up to Stutchbery on behalf of Fairfax. If it had only been Cassidy, Schubert and Atkins, we might have heard a decent discussion of the matter.

    by lizzie on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:24 pm

  37. The governments opposition is the media. Rabbott is nothing more than a puppet for vested interests who dominantly control all the info we get.

    Did anyone hear about South Korea announcing a carbon tax? NO!

    Did anyone hear the announcement by China that they are pursuing an ETS & are presently using a multitude of tools to tackle climate change & are looking at furthering their scope to abate carbon? NO!

    by Dee on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:24 pm

  38. …what did they say when someone recently threatened Gillard with assassination?

    They would have used the standard line they trot out when one of their moronic followers forgets to keep their insanity under wraps: “Ooh, we must be careful what we say- but I understand you, mate/know how you feel, mate!”

    Being self-centred, cowardly bullies, they have an instinctive understanding of plausible deniabilty.

    by Kersebleptes on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm

  39. “This is going to sound crazy due to the polls, but I think Gillard has already won the policy debate on climate change.”

    Yes you are crazy. Gillard has stopped trying to sell her half baked shit sandwich because no one believes her. Now she has run off casing another bob brown policy of media wars to take attention off the fact that no mater where she go’s people call her a liar.

    I like the team left mentality here because its still grounded with a bit of reality. Gillard winning the CC debate argument is rocketing of the reservation into deep space fantasy.

    by rummel on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm

  40. Sorry about my spelling of Stutchb-y. His ancestors must have altered the traditional spelling on the way across the sea, and I can never get it right.

    by lizzie on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm

  41. Dee, the Murdoch Pravda needs dismantling to restore democracy in this country.

    by joe2 on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:26 pm

  42. ” I can’t believe he was kept on after the Melbourne Storm revelations.”

    Not only that, the judge in the Guthrie defemation suit said wtte that Hartigan handled the truth very carelessly.

    Now there is the perfect resume to show Roo you should work for him.

    by Gaffhook on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:28 pm

  43. Victoria

    By the time the inquiries are up and running, it may be too late for Labor

    sounds as if you have thrown in the towel, Monday, things should start to turn around.

    Good things take time to implement.

    by 1934pc on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:30 pm

  44. Morning

    This keeps getting bigger and bigger….

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-osbornes-relationship-with-murdoch-under-scrutiny-2319554.html

    by Gweneth on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:31 pm

  45. They tried to make her go to rehab, but she said no, no, no.

    :lol:

    by confessions on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:31 pm

  46. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2011/07/22/18458841.html

    “Anders Behring Breivik is a conservative Christian”

    They claim he is a conservative Christian in the headline, then provide absolutely no evidence whatsoever that he is even a practicing Christian. No naming of the Church he belongs to, no indication in his many posts, nothing. How is this not blatant diversionary propaganda?

    I have no evidence either, but my guess is that it will be found that he is a radical Atheist, of the Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens variety.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:32 pm

  47. I’ve just come back from a road trip from Adelaide to Canberra and back.

    On Wednesday morning as I was traveling along the Sturt Highway from Hay to Wagga Wagga (which is one eyed National Party territory), I was listening to ABC local radio and Julia Gillard gave an interview with the host of their morning program (they had been waiting a week and half to get her on and were becoming frustrated). Before she came on there were a whole heap of calls from farmers who were frightened at the possibility of having to add an extra $10,000 to their costs of doing business/living etc.

    Anyway, the interviewer didn’t fluff around and asked some very challenging questions specific to regional areas and Gillard handled the interview very well. The most interesting part of the interview was when she was asked specific questions about Farmers struggling to survive and frightened by the carbon tax adding to the cost of doing business and she answered it by explaining a carbon farming initiative which is part of the package which is designed to give farmers an extra income stream while making a difference to cutting carbon emissions.

    After the interview, there were a lot of positive calls and people who wanted to know more about how they can take advantage of it. It was quite interesting to listen to.

    by spur212 on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:32 pm

  48. Does anyone know the sales figures for OO and the Tablolids ? Just wondering if the Hacking gate scandal might start turning people off the Murdochracy here.

    by MickGCollins on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:33 pm

  49. latikambourke Latika Bourke
    Leaders diaries: PM in TAS this w/end. Oppn Leader had a day off yest, Sydney-CherryBrook today, heading to T'ville, QLD tonight.

    by confessions on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:34 pm

  50. …that he is a radical Atheist, of the Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens variety.

    Since atheists such as Dawkins & Hitchens are of course well-known as being advocates of violent terrorist massacres…

    by Kersebleptes on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:36 pm

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