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Matters related thereto

Roy Morgan has spared the government a new set of poll results this week, presumably holding over last weekend’s face-to-face results for a combined two weeks’ result to be published next week. So here’s some stuff that has accumulated during my recent period of indolence:

• The federal parliament’s Joint Standing Committee of Electoral Matters brought down its report into the 2010 federal election a fortnight ago. One noteworthy innovation is a less pompous report title, “The 2010 Federal Election: Report on the conduct of the election and related matters” replacing the traditional formulation of “Report on the conduct of the (insert year) federal election and matters related thereto”. Antony Green summarises its recommendations here; now that my holidays are over I’ll shortly get around to reviewing it and will have more to say after I’ve fully absorbed it.

• One of the majority report’s recommendations was that the federal government follow the example of New South Wales and Victoria in allowing government records such as drivers licences, vehicle registration and Year 12 school enrolments to be used to automatically update the electoral roll. However, this is opposed in the dissenting JSCEM report from the committee’s Coalition members, for reasons I do not find persuasive. Antony Green has reviewed the impact of such measures in New South Wales since their introduction last year, observing that only 12 per cent of the 70,000 people whose enrolments have been added or updated have taken the trouble to enrol the old-fashioned way for the federal electoral roll. His conclusion: “On the evidence so far, by the time of the next commonwealth election in the second half of 2013, there could be as many as 200,000 voters enrolled for NSW elections and eligible to vote at commonwealth elections who will be missing from the commonwealth roll or be enrolled at the wrong address.”

• Draft electoral redistribution boundaries have recently been published for both our nation’s territory parliaments. Antony Green surveys the results for the Northern Territory here and the Australian Capital Territory here. An ACT redistribution would normally be of minor interest, as the territory is only divided into three electorates for purposes of a regionally based system of proportional representation, but Antony asserts that in this case the changes are radical enough to be of substantial interest, and in particular to put at risk the fourth seat the Greens won at the 2008 election. For the Northern Territory, Antony has calculated new margins for each of the 25 seats, with the caveat that the enormous sitting member factors which result from pocket-sized electorates of 4000 to 5000 voters make party-based margins less reliable than usual.

• There has been much talk lately about the possibility of an incoming Coalition government calling an early double dissolution election should it meet Senate resistance from its efforts to abolish a carbon tax. Tony Abbott’s argument to those concerned about the resulting uncertainty and expense is that opposing its repeal in the Senate would be politically suicidal for a defeated Labor Party, a case pursued by Queensland legal academic James Allan in The Australian.

There was a fair bit of material I had been compiling on Western Australian matters to coincide with a looming quarterly state Newspoll, but I was caught on the hop when it was published a month earlier than I’d anticipated.

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  1. johd

    steady

    btw

    this is a really convoluted issue

    the prick wasnt a loner

    but i think it is too early to label

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:43 pm

  2. You’re no fun at all, Scarpat.

    Fulvio,

    heh heh! I should have completed the sentence “no but it helps to understand the person’s point of view”.

    by Scarpat on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:44 pm

  3. JohD

    I said earlier that it was a cold and calculated evil act.

    by victoria on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:44 pm

  4. I said earlier that it was a cold and calculated evil act.

    That it was.

    by Scarpat on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:45 pm

  5. link to support or not this supposition?

    I have not read one reference to Christianity and I have been scanning his post for the past half hour or so.

    religion is a different beast in the scands

    not sure where this is heading or going?

    I don’t think it is religious, I think it is a mixture of Nuvo Racism (aka Islamophobia), neo-con nuttery, and ‘cultural conservatism.’ He hates social democratic liberals as ‘cultural traitors’. He sees neo-Nazi, EDL type extremist as quite separate, albeit possibly allies, to his cultural warrior movement. He is undecided about them because he suspects they hate Jews, and Homosexuals.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:46 pm

  6. admittedly dated

    but way back in the mists of time i spent some time in the scands

    there is a definite undercurrent of white supremacists

    normally they are fringe dwellers

    somehow this dont smack of fringe dwelling

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:47 pm

  7. Australian Government . Convergence review
    Review of Media and communications Policy
    Consultation stage
    ” A review is currently underway into media and communications policy including and local content, protection of community standards, media diversity and spectrum allocation..
    to read more
    http://www.dbcde.gov.au/convergence

    Well well, here comes the fix. This is a disgrace and a clear step in ending our democracy if the left cant handle criticism of their policies. We used to hear a lot about JWH, yet the left have stepped out of his shadow and now will now aim to shut any debate in the name of the left being the only right voice that should be expressed. This blatant attack to fix the media and lift the stocks of Gillard and Bob Brown. I hope Australia sees through this bastard act and the ALP continues to drop to in the polls until they are booted out at the next election.

    by rummel on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:48 pm

  8. johd

    i saw a refernce that he felt he was some sorta palladin

    just cos he uses religious imagery doesnt make him religious as such

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:48 pm

  9. rummel

    time to weed the garden of the noxious weeds

    ruperti murdioxin

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:49 pm

  10. JonD

    Am I missing the point?

    Completely. You should when the moderator intervenes to tell you that you are misrepresenting what everyone else posts that you’ve gone way off course.

    by ShowsOn on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:50 pm

  11. Just when I think the situation in America can’t get worse, it does. If this is true, ugh: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/07/more-shades-of-tarp-latest-deficit-ceiling-plan-to-establish-extra-constitutional-legislative-process.html

    by rishane on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:50 pm

  12. gus

    His manifesto has plenty of religious references.

    Thomas Hegghammer, a terrorism specialist at the Norwegian Defense Research Establishment, said the manifesto bears an eerie resemblance to those of Osama bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders, though from a Christian rather than a Muslim point of view. Like Mr. Breivik’s manuscript, the major Qaeda declarations have detailed accounts of the Crusades, a pronounced sense of historical grievance and calls for apocalyptic warfare to defeat the religious and cultural enemy.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/world/europe/25oslo.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

    by Diogenes on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:52 pm

  13. Gusface, I have been saying for ages that he is not religious. Now I think he is not religious at all. Not a churchgoer at all. Does not give religion much thought at all, except on his facebook profile – probably because it was simply a blank spot that he could not resist filling in.

    He hated the government with the the passion we have seen of late.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:52 pm

  14. gusface

    Well i might have to start up the “freinds of News Ltd” to save them from clear political attacks.

    by rummel on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:53 pm

  15. freinds = friends

    by rummel on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:53 pm

  16. Completely. You should when the moderator intervenes to tell you that you are misrepresenting what everyone else posts that you’ve gone way off course.

    I am sorry if I misrepresented your posts. Who are you again?

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:53 pm

  17. from the New York Times write up of Cadel;

    At his news conference, Evans praised his teammates, his trainers, his engineers and his longtime coach, Aldo Sassi, who died of cancer last December. Evans began to tear up as he discussed Sassi. He then learned that the Australian government might declare Monday a national holiday in his honor.

    any truth in this?

    by sprocket_ on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:54 pm

  18. rummel

    try FIENDS of news ltd

    more appropriate

    :grin:

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:54 pm

  19. Also the Moderator is entitled to his opinion, but I only responded to the issues as I saw it. I am still mystified as to what they were trying to say; except that this was a religious nutter.

    I disagreed, and disagree. If he is religious, then I am the Pope.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:55 pm

  20. Well well, here comes the fix. This is a disgrace and a clear step in ending our democracy if the left cant handle criticism of their policies. We used to hear a lot about JWH, yet the left have stepped out of his shadow and now will now aim to shut any debate in the name of the left being the only right voice that should be expressed. This blatant attack to fix the media and lift the stocks of Gillard and Bob Brown. I hope Australia sees through this bastard act and the ALP continues to drop to in the polls until they are booted out at the next election.

    Any situation where one propiertor controlls 70% of the media, is not good for neither freedom of expression nor democracy

    by MickGCollins on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:55 pm

  21. Rumbo old mate

    What do ya say when they do what Fiji did and give Roo three months to divest all of his Australian media. wouldn’t that be peaceful?

    Mind you there will be nothing left of his empire afeter the UK and US have kicked his arsk in to san quentin.

    Just have to get their ABC back on charter then and all will be hunky dory.

    by Gaffhook on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:55 pm

  22. gusface @ 2567

    lol

    by rummel on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:56 pm

  23. dio

    word is that he was known to the cops as were the group

    seems more like a IRLA than a shining path/solar temple cult

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:57 pm

  24. Just the right word !!!!
    _______________
    If you are looking for the right word to describe the “cultural right-wing warrior”who commited the massacre in Norway,you can’t do better than a good old-fashioned adjective friom the 1930-40ies

    try “FASCIST “…it’s just the word !

    by deblonay on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:57 pm

  25. from the New York Times write up of Cadel;

    At his news conference, Evans praised his teammates, his trainers, his engineers and his longtime coach, Aldo Sassi, who died of cancer last December. Evans began to tear up as he discussed Sassi. He then learned that the Australian government might declare Monday a national holiday in his honor.

    any truth in this?

    It was reported this way in the French news.

    by Scarpat on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:58 pm

  26. as Tony Abbot said this week ” we have been well served by the Australian media” – we in this context clearly meaning the non-progressive side

    by sprocket_ on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:58 pm

  27. Pope Johd

    stop blowing smoke

    lets debate not salivate

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:58 pm

  28. friends

    Fiends, there that’s fixed it for you.

    by Gaffhook on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:58 pm

  29. gus

    His manifesto has plenty of religious references.

    WHAT are you talking about! Al Qaeda has NOTHING to do with religion at all!

    They are just sad that don’t have iPads. It’s all about iPad envy.

    by ShowsOn on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:59 pm

  30. Gus
    Snap!!!!

    by Gaffhook on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:59 pm

  31. deblonay

    You may be onto something

    by victoria on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:00 pm

  32. Propiertor = Proprietor

    by MickGCollins on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:00 pm

  33. try “FASCIST “…it’s just the word !

    from his posts

    Those who dare to criticize multiculturalism (and supporting cultural conservative views) are now branded as fascists / Nazis / racists. The problem is that the doctrines which form the basis of political correctness will not or can allow alternative ideas and are thus very intolerant.

    His posts are filled with these references. He usually uses it the same way; to try and turn it into a form of left projection. But his extreme intolerance of views other than his own is definitely Fascism. By ‘extreme Intolerance’ I mean “murderous Intolerance’.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:02 pm

  34. Just when I think the situation in America can’t get worse, it does. If this is true, ugh:

    I don’t understand the point of that.

    The fact is some constitutional lawyers believe that the existing debt limit set by congress may be unconstitutional, which would enable the President to just increase the debt limit without an approval.

    by ShowsOn on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:02 pm

  35. gaff

    ;)

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:03 pm

  36. Newspoll

    Coalition 56 (-2)
    Labor 44 (+2)

    by gloryconsequence on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:03 pm

  37. WHAT are you talking about! Al Qaeda has NOTHING to do with religion at all!

    They are just sad that don’t have iPads. It’s all about iPad envy.

    Go away shows on; you are like a very broken record.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:04 pm

  38. Preferred PM

    Abbott 41 (-2)
    Gillard 40 (+2)

    by gloryconsequence on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:04 pm

  39. Newspoll

    Coalition 56 (-2)
    Labor 44 (+2)

    Not much, but its a start.

    by rishane on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:05 pm

  40. johd

    fascist is perhaps a tad extreme

    this is definitely a mash of lutheranism mixed with screwy social theory

    throw in tea party bile

    and shake

    :(

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:05 pm

  41. Newspoll

    Coalition 56 (-2)
    Labor 44 (+2)

    You serious about that? There will be a lot of happy people here tonight.

    by JohD on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:05 pm

  42. gloryconsequence

    Is that for real?

    by victoria on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:05 pm

  43. Newspoll Federal (1209 voters)

    Two Party Preferred: ALP 44 (+2) L/NP 56 (-2)
    Primary Votes: ALP 29 (+2) L/NP 47 (-2) GRN 13 (+1)
    Gillard: Approval 32 (+2) Disapproval 59 (0)
    Abbott: Approval 39 (-3) Disapproval 52 (+3)
    Preferred PM: Gillard 40 (+2) Abbott 41 (-2)
    Price on Carbon: Support 36 (+6) Opposed 53 (-6)

    by GhostWhoVotes on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:06 pm

  44. Gillard approval 32 (+2)
    Gillard disapproval 59 (unchanged)

    Abbott approval 39 (-3)
    Abbott disapproval 52 (+3)

    by gloryconsequence on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:06 pm

  45. Go away shows on; you are like a very broken record.

    Go away Joh D; you are like a very broken person posting nonsense to Pollbludger.

    by ShowsOn on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:06 pm

  46. Carbon Price support is +6, oppose is -6

    Thanks to GWV

    by gloryconsequence on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:07 pm

  47. I am pleasantly surprised! I really thought it was going to be worse.

    by victoria on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:07 pm

  48. glory ris

    just correcting back to the norm

    meself feels its 47/53

    pretty cool numbers considering the relentless shite thrown at Labor and Prime Minister Gillard

    by gusface on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:07 pm

  49. It’s an improvement, but it’s still nothing to be overjoyed about. The Coalition are well ahead.

    by spur212 on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:07 pm

  50. For goodness sake, does one have to justify, verify, and provide authority for any self held belief expressed on this blog?

    Yes – on A4 in black type (preferably with a 2cm margin).

    by drake on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:07 pm

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