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Newspoll: 56-44 to Coalition

GhostWhoVotes tweets that the first post-carbon tax announcement Newspoll is one of the happier poll results for the government of the past fortnight: the Coalition’s two-party lead has eased to 56-44 from 58-42 a fortnight ago and support for the carbon tax is up six points to 36 per cent, with opposition down six to 53 per cent. On the primary vote, Labor is up two points to 29 per cent, the Coalition is down two to 47 per cent and the Greens are up one to 13 per cent. Julia Gillard has gained two points on approval to 32 per cent, but her disapproval remains stuck on 59 per cent. Tony Abbott is down three on approval to 39 per cent and up three on disapproval to 52 per cent, and has only just maintained his lead as preferred prime minister, dropping two points to 41 per cent with Gillard up two to 40 per cent.

We also had from the Herald-Sun yesterday a poll of 625 voters in Julia Gillard’s electorate of Lalor, conducted by JWS Research using its usual methodology of automated phone calls. The company has had a rather patchy record with its previous political polling, and the latest survey has been criticised for asking respondents attitudinal questions before proceeding to voting intention. It points to a 14 per cent swing against Gillard – solidly higher than the trend of recent national polling – although she still leads 58-42 on two-party preferred. Gillard has a four-point net positive approval rating among her own constituents, but the carbon tax is opposed by 43 per cent compared with 33 per cent in support. Fifty-seven per cent rate her “honest and trustworthy” (either quite or very), with 34 per cent opting for the negative.

UPDATE: Bernard Keane in Crikey reports the latest Essential Research result has the Coalition lead at 55-45, down from 56-44 last week and 57-43 the week before. Labor’s primary vote is up a point to 32 per cent, and the Coalition’s down one to 48 per cent. However, Tony Abbott’s policy of scrapping the carbon tax has the support of 50 per cent of respondents, with only 36 per cent opposed. There are also questions on trust in the media, which is found to have “slumped dramatically in recent months”. Trust in daily newspapers rates in the low 50s, television and radio news and current affairs in the high 40s and talk radio in the low 30s. With respect to specific outlets, the ABC and broadsheets are more trusted than the commercial media and tabloids. Fifty-eight per cent say the government should not allow one company to own the majority of Australia’s major newspapers – as News Limited does – which is up from 50 per cent since the question was last asked in November.

UPDATE 2: Full Essential Research report here.

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  1. How on earth do you ‘balance’ Mr Vaclav?

    He regards AGW as an ideological, not a scientific, issue.

    by Boerwar on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:52 pm

  2. Glen,

    Tony looking the fool has worked to date. Unfortunately, the paradigm has shifted and the adults are back in charge of the political process.

    Abbott is so 2010.

    by Greensborough Growler on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:53 pm

  3. @rummel

    Dollar is souring to $1.09

    And Also:

    http://afr.com/p/national/rba_predicts_rebound_in_consumption_zBVazPk3Vc9a0F21DxOCcI

    “RBA governor Glenn Stevens has assured retailers that households will increase consumption but warned there will not be a return to the free-spending ways of the early 2000s without a significant improvement in productivity.”

    AND:

    http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Libs-split-on-finances-report-says-pd20110726-K4SGQ?OpenDocument&src=hp27

    “Factions within party disagree over finance arrangements.”

    by zoidlord on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:53 pm

  4. Explain Glen in very clear terms if you will exactly what Gillard should be saying re the CT/ETS that she isn’t saying now.

    Gary…

    Number 1: Don’t talk down to the public as she’s doing.
    Number 2: Simplify the message but don’t break rule number 1 or else people will not listen.
    Number 3: Use what Blair says and repeat.

    by Glen on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:54 pm

  5. r

    Why would Ms Gillard waste here time on someone who just doesn’t get it?

    It would be like Mr Abbott meeting with Mr Jones to discuss the truth: a complete waste of time.

    by Boerwar on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:54 pm

  6. That speech by Mr Stephens is a must read for psephs, IMHO. It has facts in it.

    by Boerwar on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:55 pm

  7. charlton

    I often misinterpret others’ posts as I’m not good at doing cryptic, even logic.

    So I’ve noticed on a couple of occasions now! ;-)

    by scorpio on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:55 pm

  8. Glen:

    The security guard said everyone gets screened, even heads of state.

    by confessions on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:55 pm

  9. How on earth do you ‘balance’ Mr Vaclav?

    He regards AGW as an ideological, not a scientific, issue.

    And how do you “balance” that crank copied from Quadrant onto their Drum opining that the Norwegian terrorist was a left wing patsy? How do you BALANCE that?

    by Cuppa on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:56 pm

  10. confessions,

    Good points.

    THe AFR reporter has jumped onto a ” award winning exclusive ” that amounts to nothing.

    by Doyley on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:56 pm

  11. And we also know that Dennis Jensen personally rejects the scientific reality of AGW, yet is happy to remain in a party which says it accepts AGW, but has policies committing public monies to addressing it.

    Denis Jensen’s famous words as printed in The West “utimately scare stories tend to work well. Playing on the heart strings is far easier than speaking with cold logic”.

    Says it all about the Libs since Howard’s dogwhistles began.

    by BH on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:56 pm

  12. I never saw W or Hu Jintao get done maybe they did but supposedly the rule is a fuzzy one not as black and white as we’re told…

    by Glen on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:57 pm

  13. Cuppa @ 2441:

    Scroll by the Two-Bit T*oll.

    I won’t respond to him but will continue to read his posts to remind me of the paucity of argument and duplicity of some who post on this site and under the guise of rational, reasoned argument.

    Under the Rules of Moderation I’d never suggest, however, that said person – it’s a he – is one of a kind who’s known in the vernacular as a …..

    Try as I may, I just can’t say the word.

    by charlton on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:57 pm

  14. Cuppa

    Nah.

    Mr Brievik is a christian terrorist belonging to a tradition that has a couple of millenia of massacres to its credit.

    by Boerwar on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:57 pm

  15. Agree with BB’s characterisation of “7:30 Report”, which often sinks to depths of superficiality unimaginable when KO’B was there.

    All the same, Ahn Do wrote and produced the cult classic “Footy Legends”.

    Here’s what reviewer Philip Derriman said about it when it was shown on tv.

    THE movie Footy Legends, which Channel Ten is screening tonight at 8.35, wasn't meant to be taken too seriously when the Do brothers, Khoa and Anh, made it in 2006. They wanted it to be just a warm, humorous look at life in Sydney's western suburbs, focusing on an ethnically mixed group of young leaguies.

    Today, the movie is taken very seriously, indeed. It's come to be used by some educationists as a standard work on cultural diversity in modern Australia, which students are required to watch and analyse.

    by Atticus on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:57 pm

  16. Their ABC is committed to “balance”. (Apparently that means balancing science with BS. )

    Yes, this is very disappointing. A review of the BBC has shown it has been doing the same thing:

    The idea that you just give both ‘sides’ the same amount of time, and that magically results in informed debate is completely wrong headed.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2011/07/bbc_science_review.html
    You can download the review here:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/our_work/other/science_impartiality.shtml

    by ShowsOn on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:58 pm

  17. Neither can I, Charlton. ;) I tried once, and William disappeared the comment.

    by Cuppa on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:58 pm

  18. rummel
    Posted Tuesday, July 26, 2011 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Its good to see the Czech President getting a good run and a discrace Julia will not meet him.

    I respect the PM for drawing the line on meeting climate change denying, right wing loopies, particularly those who break bread with Lord Monkers of Bonkers

    by david on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:58 pm

  19. Is the Libyan Half-arsed War of 1973 still going on?

    BW, the Jasmine Revolution is still happening right now in Egypt, but as 1973War, both have passed the used by date of the #MSM 24 hrs news cycle.

    The Norwegian wood is still in the cycle. i bet Rupe and Wendi are thanking their God in the Shaolin Temple.

    by The Finnigans on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:59 pm

  20. Charlton @ 2512

    I second that! ;)

    by Atticus on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:59 pm

  21. Boerwar 2505,

    Exactly. Great speech by Stephens.

    Retail will just have to adapt to the new reality.

    Profits are there. However, they will have to work for them.

    Business as usual is no longer good enough.

    by Doyley on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm

  22. zoidlord

    “The anxiety has extended to Australia, even though, as I am sure people are sick of hearing me say, Australia is in the midst of a once-in-a-century event in our terms of trade,” he said.

    “I won’t recite the facts again. Suffice it to say that this is at least potentially, the biggest gift the global economy has handed Australia since the gold rush of the 1850s.

    “Yet it seems we are, at the moment, mostly, unhappy.

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/business/feeling-totally-gloomy-you-neednt-reserve-bank-governor-glenn-stevens-says/story-e6frfm1i-1226102165642#ixzz1TCV7KUlL

    So everything is hunky dory yet we are still “unhappy”, funny that, you cant have happy spending with happy co2 taxing by the Green Gillard Government.

    by rummel on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm

  23. Shows On,

    The whole concept is flawed.

    The other side is ground breaking new concepts don’t get publicity because they don’t fit with existing prejudices. Cue Galileo.

    by Greensborough Growler on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:01 pm

  24. Number 1: Don’t talk down to the public as she’s doing.

    She hasn’t done this yet.

    Number 2: Simplify the message but don’t break rule number 1 or else people will not listen.

    Making something so simple that it is meaningless is idiotic. In fact, most Australians probably couldn’t care less about the precise way that an ETS will reduce emissions, they just want to know that the PM thinks it is the right thing to do, and want to see a leader show passion and fight for something they believe in.

    Number 3: Use what Blair says and repeat.

    Tony Blair didn’t explain how an ETS works at all.

    In fact, what he did do is demonstrate that in the UK the issue isn’t considered a subject worthy of partisan debate. The science is in, the economics is in, it is now time to do something about it.

    The UK carbon tax will probably pass with tri-partisan support late next year or early the year after.

    That’s what a mature democracy can accomplish.

    by ShowsOn on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:02 pm

  25. BTW: How can a President of another country comes here and got involved in a domestic politics.

    i dont GAF if he is on a private visit.

    by The Finnigans on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:02 pm

  26. Gary…

    Number 1: Don’t talk down to the public as she’s doing.
    Number 2: Simplify the message but don’t break rule number 1 or else people will not listen.
    Number 3: Use what Blair says and repeat.

    What a cop out Glen.
    I don’t accept that no1. is correct.
    No.2 is well and truly covered. You couldn’t get any simpler what she says about the CT/ETS.
    Blair didn’t say anything different to what she said.

    by Gary on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:04 pm

  27. I respect the PM for drawing the line on meeting climate change denying, right wing loopies, particularly those who break bread with Lord Monkers of Bonkers

    Excellent summary.

    by ShowsOn on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:04 pm

  28. ShowsOn,

    there is a great quote going around (though I can’t put my finger on it just now), words to the effect: Balance is not adding lies to truth and dividing by two.

    by Cuppa on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:04 pm

  29. r

    You appear to be suffering from Mr Abbott acolytis.

    It makes sufferers prone to stunting, lying, ranting and raving rather than engaging in serious public policy discourse.

    BTW, this syndrome dies a natural death when the punters cotton on as, sooner or later, they do. So there is hope for you yet. It is only a matter of time.

    by Boerwar on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:05 pm

  30. Notice how a lot of the mourners in Norway are holding roses.

    The rose is the official symbol of the Norwegian Labour Party (and the UK Labour Party too).

    by ShowsOn on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:06 pm

  31. Finns
    I need some advice. Should we patent ‘Shaolin Temple’?

    by Boerwar on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:07 pm

  32. David
    “I respect the PM for drawing the line on meeting climate change denying, right wing loopies, particularly those who break bread with Lord Monkers of Bonkers”

    So Gillard meeting Tony B is ok because he is preaching the warming?. I thought Tony B was one of the lead criminals along with JWH who went to war illegally against iraq and should be done for war crimes?.

    by rummel on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:07 pm

  33. there is a great quote going around (though I can’t put my finger on it just now), words to the effect: Balance is not adding lies to truth and dividing by two.

    Great quote, even your paraphrased version of it.

    Maybe part of it is there is just so many media platforms that organisations use the “give both sides equal time” doctrine as a way to fill in time and pages?

    by ShowsOn on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:08 pm

  34. Showsy,

    The Libs Family emblem has all the pricks on the inside.

    by Greensborough Growler on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:09 pm

  35. There will be no consumer confidence under the Government i lead.

    by rummel on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:10 pm

  36. Received a reply from Andrew Wilkies secretary re the Canberra Times article yesterday implying Wilkie was going to ditch his agreement with the PM over the poker machines reforms.
    Django did forward the entire agreement, however it is too long to cut and paste here, however we are all aware of the basis of the agreementI would think.
    Basically it was a Canberra Times empty vessel.

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/general/wilkie-threatens-to-ditch-gillard/2236471.aspx

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Merope-Synge, Django (A. Wilkie, MP)
    To: ++++++
    Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:44 PM
    Subject: RE: gambling addiction and media reports

    Dear David

    Thank you for contacting Andrew Wilkie regarding his agreement to introduce meaningful poker machine reform. The article in the Canberra Times contained nothing new. Mr Wilkie’s agreement with the Prime Minister is dependent on the Parliament passing his poker machine reforms, and he has consistently stated that publicly.

    I can attach a copy of Mr Wilkie’s agreement with the Prime Minister if you are interested. Mr Wilkie’s statements on this issue should not lead you to believe that he has not been talking to his crossbench colleagues about poker machine reform and a range of other issues.

    Kind regards

    Django Merope-Synge

    Office of Andrew Wilkie MP

    Independent Member for Denison

    HOBART ‘ (03) 6234 5255 188 Collins St Hobart 7000 | + GPO Box 32 Hobart 7001
    CANBERRA ‘ (02) 6277 4766

    MOBILE ‘ 0406 010 030 Email:: django.merope-synge@aph.gov.au

    This correspondence may contain information which is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies and notify us immediately. If you are the intended recipient you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the prior authority.

    by david on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:10 pm

  37. On a population pro rata basis, we would have had to have around 400 young Labor people killed to equal the Norwegian experience.

    There may well have been a future prime minister amongst the dead.

    by Boerwar on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:10 pm

  38. rummel.

    You better not lead a Government then.

    by Greensborough Growler on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:11 pm

  39. Hey, like that name: ‘Django Merope-Synge.’

    by Boerwar on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:11 pm

  40. Why is the ABC obsessed with the Czech President? Someone said earlier he’d been interviewed on the Drum, and apparently 730 wanted to interview him as well? Has he said anything even remotely accurate or informative insofar as Australia’s national interests are concerned?

    I heard grabs on him on the news and he sounded frankly alarming talking about communism and global warming. Czech people must feel embarrassed to have someone like that representing them.

    Mr Klaus is not an invited guest of the Australian Government, so I am not sure why his private (paid) visit to Australia is of any interest to the press — he’s not even selling a book!

    It was totally inappropriate for their ABC to try and organise an interview with him on their 7:30 program, with known anti-science apologist, Mr Uhlmann.

    Mr Klaus is a paid shill and their ABC should not be advancing his and the IPA’s commercial agenda.

    Totally inappropriate yet this flagrant disregard of its Charter goes unpunished and uncommented by their ABC and its apologists.

    I should add that the NPC’s fall from grace continues and it has fallen into the same trap. Again, I ask when are they going to have a debate about whether the sun rises in the east or the west?

    What a totally debased media environment we have here. And remember the cretinous “Mod Lib” maintained with gay abandon that most journalists were Labor or “left wing” — heavens to Dawkins, what planet is he from to conclude that given the press’ current output!?

    by Darren Laver on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:12 pm

  41. The change in consumer sentiment and the way they spend their money has been stiring long before the CC announcemnet in February by the PM.

    Consumers no longer are interested in sales, sales and more sales. They look at the price reductions advertised and think ” why can’t they do this all the time ?”

    Consumers believe they are getting ripped off and are turned off by the lack of customer service.

    Add in the money being spent online with the local spending directly into shops etc and you will find overall there has not been a huge reduction in total spending. What is happening is a acceleration towards online.

    Local retail outlets need to adapt. If they are competitive with price and positive with service they will compete.

    by Doyley on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:12 pm

  42. The rose is the official symbol of the Norwegian Labour Party (and the UK Labour Party too).

    Its the symbol of socialist international, hence my gravatar.

    by ruawake on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:13 pm

  43. The rose is the official symbol of the Norwegian Labour Party (and the UK Labour Party too).

    And a range of social democratic parties across Europe, as well as the Socialist International.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_international

    by Darren Laver on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:14 pm

  44. Rummel Tony Blair agrees, that is A G R E E S, with the PM and the Govt on climate change, global warming and her Govts policy.
    You are doing a very good impression of a dweller under a construction, where water flows.

    by david on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm

  45. Two Piece Feed,

    Once he’s recovered he’ll say “While I was recovering from life-threatening surgery the last thing on my mind would have been politics” but, oh, how gullible we’d have to be to believe him.

    I would think you would fit the bill ok, but I doubt anyone else here is stupid enough! ;-)

    by scorpio on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:16 pm

  46. 7.30 Report, 15 November 2000:

    The Westpac Melbourne Institute Measure of Consumer Sentiment came out today measuring a decline in consumer confidence for the third month in a row.

    http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s212768.htm

    by Cuppa on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:16 pm

  47. @rummel/2421,

    This is news.com.au, why would you print what they post?

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-hibernation-will-end-rba-20110726-1hxzb.html

    “The prices of these assets have begun rising again, Mr Stevens said, but on a much flatter path.This slower growth in asset prices coincided with the slower growth in consumer spending.”

    ‘The current divergent trends between income and consumption spending are no more sustainable than the previous trends ultimately were.”

    “At some point, he said, household wealth and debt will reach levels households see as more comfortable and consumption will begin growing in line with income, with the rate of savings out of income relatively steadying.”

    “It would then be reasonable to expect consumer spending to record faster growth than it has in the past few years.”

    “But, although the adjustment has been extraordinarily rapid, speeding the shift toward more normal consumption growth, there is no guarantee the end of the process is just around the corner.”

    Explain to me the total different writing reply when compared to news.com.au?

    by zoidlord on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:16 pm

  48. Boerwar,

    People die. How many PMs died during the first and second WWs?

    How many potential PMs have been inspired to make a difference?

    You don’t know.

    by Greensborough Growler on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:16 pm

  49. “Roy O
    Is Crabby the Annette Funicello of the press gallery?”

    No, she is the Minnie Mouse. I would say Mickey but that might be taken as sexist. I can’t believe there isa market for gasbags like her.

    by Roy Orbison on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:17 pm

  50. ruawake,

    Never thought I would say this but, Matthew Franklin is becoming the best political reporter in the country.

    Blimey! That sure doesn’t say much for the standard of the rest of them then! ;-)

    by scorpio on Jul 26, 2011 at 7:17 pm

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