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Galaxy: 56-44 to Coalition

GhostWhoVotes reports that Galaxy have conducted their first poll of federal voting intention for some time, and it's bang on the mark of other recent polling: the Coalition leads 56-44

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GhostWhoVotes reports that Galaxy have conducted their first poll of federal voting intention for some time, and it’s bang on the mark of other recent polling: the Coalition leads 56-44 on two-party preferred, from primary votes of 31 per cent for Labor, 48 per cent for the Coalition and 13 per cent for the Greens. Thirty-seven per cent support the carbon tax (which is apparently “up two”, although I couldn’t tell you off the top of my head what they’re comparing it with), with 55 per cent opposed (steady). UPDATE: GhostWhoVotes in comments does my homework for me by pointing out that the point of comparison is this poll from May.

The sample, remarkably, is 2000, producing a low margin of error of 2.2 per cent. Pollsters rarely go this high, as the statistical return on the investment diminishes quite rapidly: a 1000 sample poll gets you a margin of error of about 3.1 per cent; another 500 cuts it by 0.6 per cent; but another 500 only cuts it a further 0.3 per cent. Newspoll approaches 2000 for its immediate pre-election polls, but it does this in order to boost its sample sizes in the smaller states so it can produce credible state-by-state breakdowns. Maybe Galaxy has done something similar here and we can expect more detail to be forthcoming – or alternatively, perhaps the method used is some sort of low-cost alternative to phone polling, such as the automated dialling employed by JWS Research.

UPDATE: Told you so: GhostWhoVotes reports that the figures for Queensland are 59-41 two-party, with primary votes of 32 per cent for Labor, 54 per cent for the Coalition and 8 per cent for the Greens.

UPDATE 2: Further from Ghost central:

In the Sydney Metro area the primaries are ALP 29 L/NP 54 GRN 9. The two party preferred comes to ALP 40 L/NP 60, which is apparently a swing of 13% since the last election …

People that believe that man-made carbon emissions are the cause of global warming has remained steady at 36, while belief in the cycle of nature being responsible rose 6 points to 32 percent.

William Bowe — Editor of The Poll Bludger

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William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, is one of the most heavily trafficked forums for online discussion of Australian politics, and joined the Crikey stable in 2008.

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2,164 thoughts on “Galaxy: 56-44 to Coalition

  1. Glen

    Well the polls have solidified at 55-45 Coalition ahead.

    Carbon Tax Up 2 = MOE

    All is happy in the land of Milk and Tone.

  2. The Finnigans

    [Gusface, I was poking fun at Finns’ hostility to Japan, rather than engaging in it myself.]

    Bilbo, you got a sense of humour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. zoidlord

    @Glen i think you need to TONE down your exuberant chatter.

  4. gusface

    finns

    if kev can get a new aorta, bilbo can get a new funny bone

    😀

  5. confessions

    [Well the polls have solidified at 55-45 Coalition ahead.]

    Poss called this months ago IIRC.

    Early days, early days.

  6. gusface

    [All is happy in the land of Milk and Tone.]

    Glen

    aamoi

    How often do you ahem, milk Tone?

  7. BigBob

    Abbott will be far from happy – the precious is so close but so far away!

  8. Glen

    Gussy

    Tone is the honey 🙂

    Sweet but sticky and attracts insects 😆

  9. Frank Calabrese

    [gusface

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    All is happy in the land of Milk and Tone.

    Glen

    aamoi

    How often do you ahem, milk Tone?
    ]

    Espexially as he resigned from the Libs because of Tone.

    Methinks he has a secret mancrush on his budgies 🙂

  10. The Finnigans

    BTW Bilbo, i like Japan very much.

    In fact, we were booked to go to Tohoku – Sendai, Mitsushima etc. Well, someone organised the Earthquake and Tsunami and stopped me going there.

  11. BigBob

    Finns,

    Knowing the welcome for dolphins such as yourself in parts of Japan, the cancellation was probably fortunate.

  12. William Bowe

    [BTW Bilbo, i like Japan very much.]

    When I like a country, I too repeatedly bark “SHAME!” at it as it pulls thousands of bodies from the rubble of its ruined towns and cities.

  13. zoidlord

    @Finns, I was saving up to goto Japan later this year/early next year, because friends went there in Nov last year, they had an awesome time.

    Since the Tsunami/Earthquake, we are now looking at China at end of 2012, one of the friends went to Japan has been to China a few times.

  14. GhostWhoVotes

    In Queensland the primaries are ALP 32 L/NP 54 GRN 8, giving a 2PP of ALP 41 L/NP 59.

  15. gusface

    Finns

    “I like chinese, their funny little knees, their cute and cuddly, and ready to please”

    Monty Python

  16. george

    [sloppy on lateline]

    Pass 🙁

  17. rummel

    So even with Abbott out of the picture for just under a week, Gillard still cant peg back a few points.

  18. Frank Calabrese

    [16

    GhostWhoVotes

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    In Queensland the primaries are ALP 32 L/NP 54 GRN 8, giving a 2PP of ALP 41 L/NP 59.
    ]
    Hmm, I wonder if therre are similar stories for other states ?

  19. William Bowe

    Actually Rummel, it has been noted before that Abbott’s ratings have tended to go up when he’s “out of the picture”.

  20. Glen

    [In Queensland the primaries are ALP 32 L/NP 54 GRN 8, giving a 2PP of ALP 41 L/NP 59.]

    That’s the enda Swanny 😆

  21. Frank Calabrese

    [rummel

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    So even with Abbott out of the picture for just under a week, Gillard still cant peg back a few points.
    ]

    It was commisioned by a group with a vested interest.

  22. The Finnigans

    [ it pulls thousands of bodies from the rubble of its ruined towns and cities.]

    Bilbo, you talking about Nanjing then?

  23. rummel

    Really, lucky he is out of the country for another two weeks.

  24. gusface

    [That’s the enda Swanny ]

    big call

    🙁

  25. george

    [Since the Tsunami/Earthquake, we are now looking at China at end of 2012, one of the friends went to Japan has been to China a few times]

    Off to Shanghai and Beijing in a few months – can’t wait 🙂

  26. Benji

    I am surprised the primary vote is higher in QLD than nationally.

  27. Glen

    [It was commisioned by a group with a vested interest.]

    True but Frank Galaxy do make reliable polls and this ones a biggun 🙂

    When Galaxy says your this far behind you usually are…

  28. confessions

    [So even with Abbott out of the picture for just under a week, Gillard still cant peg back a few points.]

    The coalition vote appears to increase when Tone is out of the media. At least that’s been the experience in the past.

  29. gusface

    [Bilbo, you talking about Nanjing then?]

    Nup

    Fukushima

  30. Glen

    [The coalition vote appears to increase when Tone is out of the media. At least that’s been the experience in the past.]

    Then Fess i say Tone have another week off 😆

  31. Diogenes

    [When I like a country, I too repeatedly bark “SHAME!” at it as it pulls thousands of bodies from the rubble of its ruined towns and cities.]

    Finns clearly missed his calling as a grief counsellor.

  32. gusface

    Fess

    poll done while Abbott was here

  33. rummel

    “It was commisioned by a group with a vested interest.”

    We that also discounts the IPCC, every green NGO, the greens under Bob Brown from ever commenting on CC

  34. The Finnigans

    Diog, as usual i flunked.

  35. gusface

    dio

    just for you

    [IAM_SHAKESPEARE THERSITES. The plague of Greece upon thee, thou mongrel beef-witted ]

  36. Benji

    With primaries ALP 31, LNP 48, G 13, should the TPP be closer to 45:55, given Newspoll was 44:56 with primaries ALP 29, LNP 47, G 13?

  37. The Finnigans

    Higher than the Twin Tower then.

    [Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal unveiled plans Tuesday to build the world’s tallest tower in the Red Sea port city of Jeddah, signing a 4.6 billion riyal ($1.15 billion) contract with Bin Laden Group.

    The proposed tower, which will rise more than 1,000 metres and take just over five years to complete, is the centrepiece of the planned Kingdom City development being built outside Jeddah by Prince Alwaleed’s Kingdom Holding.]

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/saudi-billionaire-to-build-worlds-tallest-tower-20110803-1iapt.html#ixzz1Ty9Uyofa

  38. BigBob

    56:44 two years out from an election

    Not good, but certainly able to be turned around.

    Anyone who thinks the election will be more than 52:48 either way is backing a long shot.

  39. drake

    GhostWhoVotes,

    My wife keeps hounding me to tell you ‘your cool’.

    She likes the mysterious types, apparently.

  40. gusface

    [Anyone who thinks the election will be more than 52:48 either way is backing a long shot]

    Ha

    ye of little faith

    labor to win 100 seats

    😉

  41. Glen

    Ghost

    We like you too much to call Ghostbusters 🙂

  42. Diogenes

    Finns

    The Bin Laden Group are the largest building contractors in Saudi. They disowned Osama a long time ago. He was a lazy sod when he worked for them anyway.

  43. Glen

    [Ha

    ye of little faith

    labor to win 100 seats]

    Bullbutter Gussy

    Stop the Hubris! 😆

  44. The Finnigans

    Diog, who are “they”?

  45. confessions

    [Then Fess i say Tone have another week off ]

    I’m sure Liberals are saying the same thing Glen.

  46. gusface

    glen

    even when staring down the barrel, I will be forever the optimist

    🙂

  47. The Finnigans

    Onya Gus, we won in NSW didnt we?

  48. Glen

    More Malcolm and Less Tony = Coalition 2pp going Up and Up and Up and Up 😆

  49. imacca

    [Tone is the honey

    Sweet but sticky and attracts insects ]

    Am feeling very nauseous. 🙁

  50. Frank Calabrese

    [Glen

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Ha

    ye of little faith

    labor to win 100 seats

    Bullbutter Gussy

    Stop the Hubris!
    ]

    Ahem:

    [Glen

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Well the polls have solidified at 55-45 Coalition ahead.

    Carbon Tax Up 2 = MOE

    All is happy in the land of Milk and Tone.
    ]

    and more pointedly:

    [Glen

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    In Queensland the primaries are ALP 32 L/NP 54 GRN 8, giving a 2PP of ALP 41 L/NP 59.

    That’s the enda Swanny
    ]

    You were saying ? 🙂

  51. gusface

    [Onya Gus, we won in NSW didnt we?]

    many a time padawan, many a time

    Shhhhh now

    uncle tom- oops uncle joe is on

  52. Glen

    [even when staring down the barrel, I will be forever the optimist]

    “Shoot straight you bastards…don’t make a mess of it.”

    Now that’s what I call courage and I salute yours Gussy very commendable 🙂

  53. Diogenes

    Finns

    The Bin Laden family (who own the company). They paid him to eff off. That’s where he got all his money from.

    Talking about ill-gotten money, someone is gonna be plenty upset by this!

    [A record £300m haul of cocaine has been seized and six alleged members of an international drug gang arrested, officials have said.

    A total of 1.2 tonnes of cocaine was found hidden inside a 65ft pleasure cruiser at Southampton docks in June.]

  54. confessions

    Gus:

    What are the dates this poll was taken?

  55. Glen

    [You were saying ?]

    On those numbers he is gone Franky…nothing over the top with those posts like.

  56. deflationite

    george,

    I have been lucky enough to have a couple of extended stays in Beijing.

    My one and only tip, eat as much as you can as often as you can. Food does not get any better.

  57. Frank Calabrese

    [confessions

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    Gus:

    What are the dates this poll was taken?
    ]

    As Ghost posted on the other thread.

    [GhostWhoVotes

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    The Galaxy poll is of 2000 voters and was taken between the 27th of July and Monday.
    ]

    And Tone was still in the Country 🙂

  58. Cuppa

    It’s going to come tumbling down like a house of cards when the public finally wakes up to Abbott. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/tony-abbott-makes-a-habit-of-flipping/story-e6frerdf-1226106158058

  59. The Finnigans

    Diog, not all of “they” in the Bin Laden Clan disowned Osama. A number of them supported him.

  60. GhostWhoVotes

    In the Sydney Metro area the primaries are ALP 29 L/NP 54 GRN 9. The two party preferred comes to ALP 40 L/NP 60, which is apparently a swing of 13% since the last election.

  61. The Finnigans

    In other words, they will sell, sell, sell USD:

    [China to continue diversifying forex investments, Updated: 2011-08-03 10:10, (Xinhua) – BEIJING – China will continue to diversify its foreign currency investments and strengthen risk management to minimize the impact of the global financial market’s fluctuations on China, according to a statement on the website of the People’s Bank of China.]

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2011-08/03/content_13039712.htm

  62. Dario

    [The poll was paid for by the Australian Coal Association]

    Hahahahahaha

  63. rummel

    wow, Sydney more ferral against Gillard then QLD. Vic must be holding the house of cards up

  64. Glen

    [In the Sydney Metro area the primaries are ALP 29 L/NP 54 GRN 9. The two party preferred comes to ALP 40 L/NP 60, which is apparently a swing of 13% since the last election.]

    The Liberal Member for Kingsford Smith has the call 😆

    Of course never going to happen but hey…

  65. Generic Person

    Let’s see:

    1. ‘people skills’
    2. ‘problem with women’
    3. ‘unelectable’
    4. ‘negative’
    5. ‘party of no’
    6. ‘no ideas’
    7. ‘impossible to believe’

    Result: 56-44 to the coalition.

    Labor: excuses excuses.

  66. Cuppa

    Thinking Jen’s GetUp!-ABC pitch will hit the 3000-vote mark sometime tomorrow … http://suggest.getup.org.au/forums/60819-campaign-ideas/suggestions/1684971-petition-for-abc-to-return-to-its-charter Currently rated 10th…

  67. Frank Calabrese

    [GhostWhoVotes

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    In the Sydney Metro area the primaries are ALP 29 L/NP 54 GRN 9. The two party preferred comes to ALP 40 L/NP 60, which is apparently a swing of 13% since the last election.
    ]

    And who are most influenced by 2GB and The Daily TError.

  68. gusface

    glen

    just played with antonys thingy

    100 seats is not out the Q

    but for the wrong side

    🙁

  69. confessions

    [The Galaxy poll is of 2000 voters and was taken between the 27th of July and Monday. ]

    Thanks Frank.

  70. Glen

    [wow, Sydney more ferral against Gillard then QLD. Vic must be holding the house of cards up]

    Don’t forget the Socialist Republic of Van Diemen’s Land Rummel 😆

    That surely is propping up Ms Gillard.

  71. The Finnigans

    [name names]

    Gus, Mohammed, Mohammed and Mohammed.

  72. confessions

    [The poll was paid for by the Australian Coal Association]

    And support for a carbon price is up on the last time.

  73. Glen

    [glen

    just played with antonys thingy

    100 seats is not out the Q

    but for the wrong side]

    Oh Gussy I doubt the Tories could swing it that big. Even Howard couldnt in 1996. Would be a big swing if these numbers never changed though…

  74. gusface

    glen

    if that happened i would migrate to sweden

    🙁

  75. Albert Ross

    Is Jones making Joe look like a complete dill?

  76. Cuppa

    [And who are most influenced by 2GB and The Daily TError.]

    And apart from Sydney the most biased media in the English-speaking world. The Coalition couldn’t survive without the life support.

  77. Frank Calabrese

    [72

    gusface

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    glen

    just played with antonys thingy

    100 seats is not out the Q

    but for the wrong side

    ]

    Just remember that Rudd had similar stratidpherical figures so early in the Election Cycle.

    And we all know what happened next.

    Now who of the 3 stoges will play the parts of TP, Evan 14 etc when the inevitable happens mere moths from an electiom ? 🙂

  78. gusface

    albatross

    nup

    Joe handles that really well, he dont need a helping hand

  79. gusface

    frank

    not wavering

    just saving glen the time to gloat

  80. The Finnigans

    [if that happened i would migrate to sweden]

    Gus, the Au Pair is good.

  81. Generic Person

    No 81

    Abbott has been killing it for a while now Frank. Keep up the delusion.

  82. rummel

    “Don’t forget the Socialist Republic of Van Diemen’s Land Rummel
    That surely is propping up Ms Gillard.”

    lol yes, though i count Tas as being the first state to fall completely to the greens.

  83. Glen

    Gussy the ‘Tories’ are in min govt in Sweden…

    Fredrik Reinfeldt and his The Alliance grouping…

  84. spur212

    Ghost says they’re comparing this poll with the one in April/May because it was commissioned by the Australian Coal Association.

    I’m very interested to see the wording of the carbon tax question because the last Galaxy poll on the carbon tax on July 11 was Support 29, Oppose 60. If it’s the same wording as July 11th, that’s a rise of 8 in Support and a fall of 5 in Oppose …

  85. Glen

    [Abbott has been killing it for a while now Frank. Keep up the delusion.]

    I knew GP would turn up!

    13% swings in NSW = one happy GP 😆

  86. Scarpat

    [Gussy the ‘Tories’ are in min govt in Sweden…]

    ah, so they are illegitimate too…

  87. Frank Calabrese

    [86

    Generic Person

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    No 81

    Abbott has been killing it for a while now Frank. Keep up the delusion.
    ]

    so was Ridd between 2007 and early 2010.

    And we all know what happened next.

  88. gusface

    [Gussy the ‘Tories’ are in min govt in Sweden…]

    i knew they needed me there

    😉

  89. Glen

    [ah, so they are illegitimate too…]

    Nah the Moderate Party (largest grouping) actually increased their vote at the 2010 election. Hardly illegitimate…but I do recall Ms Gillard knocking off a few votes from Labor’s total in 2007 like.

  90. gusface

    glen

    gp is happy cos the dishwashing machine has been fixed

    🙂

  91. The Finnigans

    Thefinnigans TheFinnigans
    What the point of repeated Pressers by the Cops where nothing new CAN be said or added #mosman
    4 seconds ago

  92. The Finnigans

    [gp is happy cos the dishwashing machine has been fixed]

    or the Restorantee is very quiet tonight

  93. ShowsOn

    [Nah the Moderate Party (largest grouping) actually increased their vote at the 2010 election]
    Yeah that’s an interesting point. A majority of the parliamentary Liberal Party supports the Government’s ETS policy, but just can’t say so because they are lead by a denialist leader.

  94. gusface

    finns

    thats a bit low

    its a trattoria

  95. Puff, the Magic Dragon.

    There are still hard yards ahead, although the Murdochracy and their ABC must be very disappointed that this is all their regime-change agenda can achieve. Surely by now, Tone should have installed his chair in the PM‘s office.

  96. Glen

    Also it’s help get them to 56-44 ahead which aint half bad 🙂

  97. Glen

    [2 years to go.]

    That is providing we have no Labor by-elections 🙂

  98. gusface

    glen you dudes need 2 actually

    now if one of the fibs/nats hangs up their harness

    well then you dudes need at least 3

    😉

  99. gusface

    gp shows

    get a room

    oh and a dvd player and a good internet connection

    👿

  100. Generic Person

    No 109

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYC5E4perb8

    Phil Collins has a song for every occasion 😀

  101. Puff, the Magic Dragon.

    I am not worried about any Labor by-elections. Any electorate that returned a Labor member in the last Federal election sure as hell will not be voting Abbott into power. A by-election in a Coalition seat, on the other hand, would be another matter entirely.

  102. gusface

    Gp

    maybe make sure the bridal suite has a kick arse sound system

    🙂

  103. Generic Person

    No 112

    I had to consult Diana Ross’s collection for that one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GtyMeEcPPE 😀

  104. Scarpat

    [No 109

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYC5E4perb8

    Phil Collins has a song for every occasion ]

    Goes very nicely with:

    [2 years to go.]

  105. Frank Calabrese

    [Generic Person

    Posted Wednesday, August 3, 2011 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    No 114

    NO NO NO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LTPRJqt2z4
    ]

    Predicting the LIb’s political outcome in 2 years 🙂

  106. Darn

    Just saw MT on Lateline (from the NPC today) correcting his leader on the claim that CO2 is weightless – said anyone who drops a piece of dry ice on their foot would know otherwise. He seemed to be enjoying himself.

    Tone would be absolutely livid.

  107. Scarpat

    War by youtube – no need for a Defence budget anymore.

  108. gusface

    Scarps

    the 6.5 stars would win every time

  109. Generic Person

    No 117

    A Labor victory would be against all odds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OiV_5kEt6A

  110. gusface

    ASX IS WHERE IT WAS IN 2005

  111. Darn

    Tony Jones just put Joe Hockey through the ringer with a very well thought out and probing interview. Made Hockey look like a waffling fool at times.

    If this is a sign of things to come it should be very entertaining.

  112. gusface

    Gormless pile has dropped his first E

    😉

  113. The Finnigans

    More sell, sell, sell from The Comrades

    [Aug 3, 2011
    China says US deal ‘failed to defuse debt bomb’

    BEIJING – CHINA warned on Wednesday that tortured efforts to raise the US debt ceiling had failed to defuse Washington’s ‘debt bomb”, and that it would further diversify its currency holdings away from the dollar.

    US President Barack Obama finally signed an emergency austerity bill on Tuesday that averted what would have been a catastrophic debt default for the world’s biggest economy.

    But a failure to rein in US borrowing could ‘jeopardise the well-being of hundreds of millions of families within and beyond the US borders”, the official Xinhua news agency said in a blistering commentary on the deal.

    ‘The months-long tug of war between Democrats and Republicans… failed to defuse Washington’s debt bomb for good, only delaying an immediate detonation by making the fuse an inch longer,’ the commentary said.

    ‘Meanwhile, the madcap farce of brinkmanship has disclosed yet another ticking bomb in the heartland of the sole superpower in the world – the crippling tendency to politicise the economics while trivializing the politics.’ China, sitting on the world’s biggest foreign exchange reserves of around US$3.20 trillion (S$3.85 trillion) as of the end of June, is the largest holder of US Treasuries. — AFP]

  114. Glen

    [ASX IS WHERE IT WAS IN 2005]

    Thank you Obama and Tea Party!

  115. sohar

    …and thank you Ronnie, Georgie W and Dickie.

  116. Generic Person

    No 127

    I’m happy the tea party is urging spending thrift at all costs as that is surely better than more spending at all costs. We all know where Greece ended up.

  117. Glen

    [I’m happy the tea party is urging spending thrift at all costs as that is surely better than more spending at all costs. We all know where Greece ended up.]

    I am surprised the Russians and Chinese dont flood the market with US Bonds crippling the US economy….it’d be like you wont the cold war but now you’re poor HAHA!

  118. Generic Person

    No 130

    The Chinese would destroy their own economy in the process which depends significantly on exports to the US.

  119. Glen

    And interest payments on debts too I’d reckon GP.

  120. GhostWhoVotes

    People that believe that man-made carbon emissions are the cause of global warming has remained steady at 36, while belief in the cycle of nature being responsible rose 6 points to 32 percent.

  121. Glen

    [People that believe that man-made carbon emissions are the cause of global warming has remained steady at 36, while belief in the cycle of nature being responsible rose 6 points to 32 percent.]

    A win for Tone and the Luddites 🙂 lol

  122. deflationite

    The U.S. is already in Greece territory. The only thing stopping most of the world calling them out are the small matters of a reserve currency and lots of muscle.

    Even then both Russia and China have taken it up a notch in the last couple of days.

  123. gusface

    glen

    more than happy to add your name to the CC deniers stelle

    🙁

  124. Glen

    I’m not a denier Gussy 🙂

  125. Generic Person

    No 135

    It’s more than just reserve currency and muscle – China’s economy is heavily dependent on US growth as its own domestic demand is still not of any material significance. Sure, China can crash the US economy overnight, but they’d put tens of millions of Chinese out of work in the process.

  126. Glen

    Nein frau guss 🙂

  127. gusface

    glen

    thepen having writ,moves on

    sorry history has your measure

  128. Cuppa

    [People that believe that man-made carbon emissions are the cause of global warming has remained steady at 36, while belief in the cycle of nature being responsible rose 6 points to 32 percent.

    A win for Tone and the Luddites 🙂 lol]

    The better informed a populace the healthier the democracy. Propaganda outlets such as Radio Liberal that intentionally seek to misinform and manipulate the public are a cancer on democracy.

  129. Glen

    Cuppa I blame that 6% rise on Lord Monckton lol

  130. Generic Person

    No 142

    Cuppa translated: I don’t like what I see in the media, so let’s censor it to my liking.

  131. Centre

    [The US is already in Greece territory]

    An absurd comment!

  132. Glen

    GP

    PB Labortariat meme = I don’t like what I see in the media, there’s not enough stories praising such a wonderful woman like Julia Gillard so let’s censor it to my liking.

  133. Ric Nixon

    How delusional are you all, Gillard is finished, unless she is replaced and the CO2 tax canned the ALP are heading to a NSW style defeat (remember the polls turned bad about 2 years from the end) and that is if Windsor and Oakshott don’t go feral on the ALP, and they are both capable of that, ask the Nationals, don’t think they are not, when their backs are to the wall those buffoons will do anything and they are not too far away from that trust me, I will give them to Christmas and after that if the polls don’t change they will…………

  134. zoidlord

    lol the usual suspects have entered the room.

    btw GP, NSW has gotten worse since Liberals took over, alot of my relatives haven’t seen any change since they took office.

  135. deflationite

    The US is in Malta?

  136. drake

    [Cuppa translated: I don’t like what I see in the media, so let’s censor it to my liking.]

    GP translated: I don’t like what Bernard Keane says, so I’ll label him a terrorist sympathiser.

  137. spur212

    Here’s Joe Hockey on Lateline

    http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201108/r808784_7199324.asx

    He was all over the place. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a politician respond so embarrasingly during an interview. The most alerting part was when he said the Coalition are thinking about disbanding the department of climate change.

    The Coalition have had a terrible time of it over the last month or so. Serious questions are being asked about Direct Action and they haven’t been able to make any forward momentum. On top of that, Abbott has frequently contradicted his position on his climate change policy, the science and his emission target.

    I can’t see them sustaining their position. Something is going to have to give.

  138. gusface

    [ and that is if Windsor and Oakshott don’t go feral on the ALP, and they are both capable of that, ask the Nationals, don’t think they are not, when their backs are to the wall those ]

    Ric

    private schools inflict such terrible damage

    I hope you didnt drop the soap

    😉

  139. Centre

    Glen if we had a truly fair and balanced media, your mob would be in a position where they MUST lift their game and develop some good conservative policies.

    What a pleasant change that would be. I could give you one right now if you want!

  140. Generic Person

    No 150

    lol, I’ve lived in NSW all my life. The fact that the government is turning off speed cameras is already a big change. Sticking it to the unions is also excellent. Rolling on with the NW rail link.

    Keep living in your delusion furnished by Kristina Hair Extension Keneally.

  141. gusface

    [The US is in Malta?]

    since WW2

    has ahem eternal rights to port facilities

    crtsy HM Navy

  142. drake

    [Keep living in your delusion furnished by Kristina Hair Extension Keneally.]

    blah blah blah

  143. Cuppa

    [Cuppa I blame that 6% rise on Lord Monckton lol]

    The people who pay any attention to him are already believers. Easily taken in by a clever-talking “Lord” of the Peerage. Overwhelmingly old, white and male, whose conservative inclination makes them fearful of any change. A CARBON TAX!! You can’t do THAT! That’s socialism!! I never heard of climate change when I was growing up, therefore it’s not real and these Greens – these GREENS are SOCIALISTS! The earth is actually going into a mini ice age. I know, because such-and-such told me on the radio.

    Very fearful, dim-witted, and the a soft target for radio networks that pump fearmaking angry rhetoric into their shrivelled brains 24/7, just for the benefit of the Liberal Party and the billionaires who pull the party’s strings.

  144. rishane

    [The Coalition have had a terrible time of it over the last month or so. Serious questions are being asked about Direct Action and they haven’t been able to make any forward momentum. On top of that, Abbott has frequently contradicted his position on his climate change policy, the science and his emission target.

    I can’t see them sustaining their position. Something is going to have to give. ]

    They live on the polls. Luckily for them, the media only defines success by polls, not merit.

  145. gusface

    drake

    givenchy parisian

    is coming down

    go easy on him

  146. zoidlord

    @GP/157

    Turning off Speed Camera’s help how? by making NSW Health system more worse?

    NW rail link? who cares.

    Who’s the delusional suspect!

  147. deflationite

    Not sure why Greece gets picked on when there are others worse off.

    Well I actually am sure. Small fish are easier to fry.