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Newspoll: 58-42 to Coalition

GhostWhoVotes reports that Newspoll shows little change from a fortnight ago, with the Coalition’s two-party lead down from 59-41 to 58-42. However, it wouldn’t be a current opinion poll if there wasn’t an unpleasant twist for the government, and this time it’s a new low on the primary vote of 26 per cent, down a point on last time. The Coalition are down as well, by two points to 48 per cent, with the Greens up one to 13 per cent. Julia Gillard’s personal ratings have recovered from last week’s disaster, although they are still the second worst she has ever recorded: her approval is up four to 27 per cent and disapproval down seven to 61 per cent. Tony Abbott has failed to hold on to an improvement recorded last time, his approval down five to 34 per cent and disapproval up two to 54 per cent, and his lead as preferred prime minister has narrowed from 43-34 to 40-35.

This week’s Essential Research shows no change in voting intention, and indeed the series has not recorded any shifts worth mentioning since mid-June. The current scores are 32 per cent Labor, 49 per cent Coalition and 10 per cent Greens, with the Coalition leading 56-44 on two-party preferred. Further questions find respondents believe to be the world in general and Australia in particular to be less safe than at the time of the September 11 attacks; little change in opinion on the carbon tax, with support down two points since August 1 to 37 per cent and opposition up one to 52 per cent; continuing broad support for the idea when it is specifically tied to compensation and investment in renewable energy; a belief nonetheless that the current scheme has been rushed; and a confused picture on whether governments should control either or both houses of parliament (though it is clear not many would opt for neither).

Further:

• A by-election looms in the north coast NSW state seat of Clarence following the resignation of Nationals MP Steve Cansdell. Cansdell has admitted to signing a false statutory declaration so that a staff member could take the blame for a 2005 speeding offence, which would otherwise have cost him his licence. The last time there was a by-election in the Grafton-based seat, in 1996, the result was a triumph for Labor: months after losing his seat of Richmond at the federal election, Labor candidate won the seat from the Nationals with a swing of 14.0 per cent, adding a handy buffer to what had previously been the one-seat majority of Bob Carr’s government. This time, Labor need not bother fielding a candidate: after winning the seat on Woods’s retirement in 2003, Steve Cansdell consolidated the Nationals’ hold in 2007 before picking up a swing of nearly 20 per cent in the electoral avalanche that was the March state election, pushing his party’s margin above 30 per cent.

• The Prime Minister has flagged support for trials of American-style “primaries” as part of its preselection process for some Coalition-held seats ahead of the next election. In keeping with the recommendation of the post-election review conducted by Bob Carr, Steve Bracks and John Faulkner, 20 per cent of a preselection ballot will be determined by those willing to register as official party “supporters”. Sixty per cent will be determined by branch members and 20 per cent by affiliated trade union members. The NSW Labor Party has resolved to follow a more radical path in five electorates before the 2015 state election, with 50 per cent determined by primaries and the remainder determined by branch members and unions. Two such experiments were conducted last year, by the NSW Nationals in Tamworth and Victorian Labor in Kilsyth. The former was a highly successful effort in which 4293 voters participated in the selection of Kevin Andrews, who duly unseated independent incumbent Peter Draper; the latter was something of a damp squib, attracting only 170 participants and selecting an electorate officer who did nothing to hold back the anti-Labor tide. The lesson seems to be that a degree of community enthusiasm is requried for the procedure to be worth the effort. This is least likely to be forthcoming when the party is not a serious prospect of winning the seat, and most likely in areas where the party is traditionally strong. Herein lies the catch: it is not in such areas where party branches are moribund, which is the very ill that primaries presume to cure. All that being so, trials in Coalition-held seats do not seem greatly promising at a time when every indication suggests seats will be swinging the other way.

• Antony Green has published analyses of the New South Wales election in March and the Queensland election of October 2009. Among other things, these tell us that the respective two-party splits were 64.2-35.8 to the Coalition, with exhausted minor party votes accounting for 12.9 per cent of the total formal vote; and 50.5-49.5 to Labor, with 7.7 per cent exhausting. In New South Wales, Labor’s primary vote of 25.6 per cent was its worst result since 1904, while the Coalition’s 51.8 per cent was its best result since 1932.

• The delicate balance in the Northern Territory’s Legislative Assembly shifted a fortnight ago when Alison Anderson, who won her outback seat of MacDonnell as a Labor member in 2008 and quit the party the following year, joined the Country Liberal Party. The numbers in the chamber are now 12 each for the Labor government and CLP opposition, with Nelson independent Gerry Wood continuing to provide Labor with a decisive vote on confidence and supply.

• The New South Wales government has introduced a bill that will ban donations to political parties from organisations of any kind, and include spending by affiliated unions within caps on party spending during election campaigns. One of the Keneally government’s final acts was to set caps of $9.3 million on electoral communications spending by parties and $100,000 for each candidate, and to ban donations from the alcohol, gambling and tobacco sectors.

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  • 1
    Gary Sparrow
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    The ALP and SPD have something in common. They both have stagnant mid 20% polling support :)

  • 2
    Mod Lib
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    I wonder how many polls of <30% the ALP will be able to bear?

  • 3
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    1

    Gary Sparrow

    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    The ALP and SPD have something in common. They both have stagnant mid 20% polling support

    Two Years Son, Two Years :-)

  • 4
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    2

    Mod Lib

    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    I wonder how many polls of <30% the ALP will be able to bear?

    See Above :-)

  • 5
    This little black duck
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    If my say goes delusional you lot will be long dead.

  • 6
    zoidlord
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    @Mod Lib,

    I wouldn’t be happy with those thoughts now, ya here?

    LNP is suppose increase it’s lead, not downgrade it?

  • 7
    Gary Sparrow
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    I wonder how many polls of <30% the ALP will be able to bear?

    The fact that the Greens are now half of Labor's support is a joke.

    I think Labor would have to get to below 25 or 24% to dump Ms Gillard.

  • 8
    Tom the first and best
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    I shall repost my reply to 10610 on the previous thread here so it does not get as overlooked.

    Keneally in the Commonwealth Parliament would be used by the opposition to associate the ALP at that level with her Government which you don`t need to me to telll you was defeated in the most massive landslide in Australia in more that half a century.

    Bligh would be somewhere in between Keneally and Carmen Lawrence in political effect on the Commonwealth Parliament`s ALP. Closer to the former if the Coalition gets its way.

  • 9
    george
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    I wonder how many polls of <30% the ALP will be able to bear?

    Why, are you aware of an election next week?

  • 10
    BK
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    I’m off to bed. Night all.
    My comment on NewsPoll?
    No comment.

  • 11
    The Magical Liopleurodon
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    If the trend continues, the ALP will be in an election winning position by new year!

  • 12
    ShowsOn
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Shows, I am not questioning you about the law, I am questioning your subsequent accusation that this means that I voted for the guy who… by pointing out that you could equally say the same thing about you supporting the party which is trying to pass a bill to remove any High Court protections the asylum seekers currently have.

    Same same (thats the thesis I was referring to)

    FFS mate, how can I have voted in the 2013 election in 2010?

    You clearly voted for Howard in 2001 and 2004 after he had put a bill to parliament that would’ve let the SAS commit murder, without the asylum seekers being able to have any legal recourse.

    So you should probably stop lecturing me about how I’ll vote in 2013.

  • 13
    Mod Lib
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    LNP is suppose increase it’s lead, not downgrade it?

    When you get to this stage in the polls, its just “we are waiting to dump you” and the rest is noise.

  • 14
    BK
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Wallace: “Pick a book. Any book”.

  • 15
    This little black duck
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Moo so glib,

    The Society of Concerns is sending you an application form.

  • 16
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    They probably have quite a few things in common, GS.

  • 17
    BK
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    You’ve gotta say, KK is one mighty handsome lady.

  • 18
    Puff, the Magic Dragon.
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Newspoll?
    YAWN

  • 19
    Gary Sparrow
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    When you get to this stage in the polls, its just “we are waiting to dump you” and the rest is noise.

    Another few months of this and people write this govt off. It will become the bad govt mantra every single day :)

  • 20
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Labor and the SPD, I mean.

  • 21
    The Finnigans
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    This has got to be the most boring #qanda ever

  • 22
    Gary Sparrow
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    They probably have quite a few things in common, GS.

    Indeed.

  • 23
    confessions
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Glen:

    People have already written the govt off. Today’s front page story at the OO talked about “when” the coalition wins the next election, not if.

  • 24
    zoidlord
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    @Mod Lib/13,

    I’m assuming you mean dumping tony? lols.

  • 25
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Gary Sparrow

    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    When you get to this stage in the polls, its just “we are waiting to dump you” and the rest is noise.

    Another few months of this and people write this govt off. It will become the bad govt mantra every single day

    Remember Keating in 93.

    That is all :-)

  • 26
    Gary Sparrow
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Frank

    The difference is Tone isnt the fool Hewson was and he wont go and release all of his policies 2 years out from an election.

    :)

    Speaking of Germany by the way we should congratulate the Pirate Party who in the Berlin elections in Germany won 15 seats.

  • 27
    Centre
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Um Kristina, you need man + women to = baby.

    Happy to debate it with you at a nightclub of your choice :)

  • 28
    george
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    The difference is Tone isnt the fool Hewson was

    :lol: no, he’s worse :lol:

  • 29
    Puff, the Magic Dragon.
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    I have given up on Qanda. I am sick of the political plants in the audience.

  • 30
    zoidlord
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    I miss PK,

    I wasn’t old enough for most his time in Parliament, but I did remember some of it.

    Is when Politics died I think.

  • 31
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    The difference is Tone isnt the fool Hewson was

    No, he’s the fool Tone is.

  • 32
    This little black duck
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    William,

    Have you had a look at the Danish election? Quite interesting how a minority government will or may not work. Essentially, it is centre left with independents.

    Looks like much less aggravation from the conservatives, I think. It is likely to work OK.

  • 33
    MickGCollins
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    The difference is Tone isnt the fool Hewson was

    No, he is the fool that Tony is

  • 34
    This little black duck
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Puff,

    Saw the QueAsy list. Signed off immediately.

  • 35
    Gary Sparrow
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    No, he’s the fool Tone is.

    He doesn’t need any help on that regard. But he wont fall into the same trap Hewson did. Maybe one of his own true but not Hewsons.

  • 36
    MickGCollins
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Mr Bowe, snap

  • 37
    david
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    do you know what glen i would be very careful with your hubris lots of karma coming for u

    My Say

    I have never called the election for Abbott.
    Anybody can win in 2013.
    Please stop misrepresenting me My Say you have a habit of doing so

    my say how could you upset the poor thing like that, I feel a tear coming on…but then no to hell with the tear go get em :lol: what an insipid cry..
    Please stop misrepresenting me My Say you have a habit of doing so … FFS a child in kindie would say it, doubtfully.

  • 38
    george
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    But he wont fall into the same trap Hewson did

    he won’t get the chance

  • 39
    Puff, the Magic Dragon.
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    I am sick of the political plants in the audience.

    Poison Ivy
    Trumpet Weed
    Magic Mushrooms.

  • 40
    This little black duck
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Gary Sparrow,

    “he won’t fall”.

    Tell PB who is pulling or let go his strings.

  • 41
    This little black duck
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    Puff,

    Carlos Castaneda?

  • 42
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    So, unsurprisingly, Newspoll hasn’t budged. My prediction of them accidentally polling Canada was wrong haha

  • 43
    sustainable future
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    When will the libs realise that if they went to Turnbull their TPP polling would hit the mid to high -60s and reduce Labor to parity with the Greens? (we’ll until the Australian and their sponsoring mining lobby ripped into him for supporting a price on pollution anyway). Abbott has got to be the least liked pollie to have such a high TPP vote – is there any parallel Mr Bowe? Also, what do you say to the theory that Australian’s have been bolshie in polls against most federal governments at this stage of their second terms – maybe not as much as now – but it seems to be game we play to extract the maximum levels of goodies from the government in the lead up to the election. Howard and Costello taught us that if we give them bad polls they give us middle class welfare and one-off payments directly into our bank accounts in the election year. Are we like a bunch of three year olds holding our breath until we get a lollypop?

  • 44
    ShowsOn
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    HAHAHAHHAHAHAAH So Jim Wallace lectures us all about how morally correct Christians are, but he won’t explicitly stick up for asylum seekers arriving by boat.

  • 45
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    TLBD, it seems to me Denmark will have a coalition as distinct from a minority government, and that this is par for the course there.

  • 46
    Gary Sparrow
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Tell PB who is pulling or let go his strings.

    Tony Abbott who else?

  • 47
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Carey Moore

    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    So, unsurprisingly, Newspoll hasn’t budged. My prediction of them accidentally polling Canada was wrong haha

    and no PPM figures either yet.

  • 48
    david
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    William Bowe
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    The difference is Tone isnt the fool Hewson was

    No, he’s the fool Tone is.

    William… damn what an excellent response, there is even a hint of humor…not having a sly glass of something there are you? you devil you :devil:

  • 49
    ShowsOn
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Frank

    The difference is Tone isnt the fool Hewson was and he wont go and release all of his policies 2 years out from an election.

    You’re right there. In fact he won’t release any.

  • 50
    Darn
    Posted Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Who is that gorgeous drop on Q & A who looks vaguely like the former premier of NSW?

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