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Essential Research: 54-46 to Coalition

This week’s Essential Research poll has Labor recovering the point they lost last week, with the Coalition lead on two-party preferred down from 55-45 to 54-46. However, the primary vote figures suggest there is little in the change: the major parties are steady on 34 per cent for Labor and 48 per cent for the Coalition (although a one-point drop for the Liberals disappears from the Coalition total after rounding), with the Greens up a point to 11 per cent. Other questions find mounting opposition to the contention that the budget should return to surplus at all costs. Seventy-one per cent declared themselves opposed if doing so meant “cutting services and raising taxes”, with only 13 per cent supportive. Fifty-eight per cent said there was no need for the budget to return to surplus so quickly compared with 38 per cent in April, but if the government remains determined, the number who believe it should be paid for by removing tax breaks for high income earners (59 per cent) and increasing taxes for corporations (72 per cent) is up eight and nine points respectively. Only 35 per cent nominated cuts to “middle-class welfare”.

Further evidence of voters’ curiously social democratic bent was furnished by a question in which respondents were asked to indicated whether various parties had benefited from the mining boom: 68 per cent said yes for mining company executives, 48 per cent for shareholders and 42 per cent for foreign companies, against 12 per cent for regional communities and 11 per cent for “all Australians”. There was also an interesting question on the leaders’ performances during Barack Obama’s visit, in light of suggestions that Julia Gillard had been too effusive and Tony Abbott had politicised the occasion. The results suggest much more support for the latter contention than the former: Gillard’s performance was rated good by 38 per cent and poor by 23 per cent, compared with 18 per cent and 30 per cent for Abbott.

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  1. Interesting how the inquiry has a battery of counsels. I can’t figure who bobs up when.

    by This little black duck on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:40 am

  2. Whatever happened to Charlton?

    by Outsider on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:46 am

  3. Perhaps I’m out of order here, and apologies in advance if anyone takes offence, but I felt the irony of the situation when I was in IGA (a low cost Supermarket) in Rockingham (a low socio-economic area) today.

    There on the cash register was a hand written sign offering the stores banking services to make donations to the Margaret River bushfire victims.

    Margaret River is the out of town holiday home destination of many of Perth’s well heeled, plenty of whom would feel the cost of reconstruction of their pleasure domes far less than many of the good burgers of Rockingham would miss their generous and kind donations.

    Maybe I’m just a cynical bastard …

    by Fulvio Sammut on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:46 am

  4. i think he is writing with his hand on it

    and a large bottle of KY gel

    Good one! :D

    by rishane on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:48 am

  5. Fulvio Sammut

    Posted Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    Perhaps I’m out of order here, and apologies in advance if anyone takes offence, but I felt the irony of the situation when I was in IGA (a low cost Supermarket) in Rockingham (a low socio-economic area) today.

    There on the cash register was a hand written sign offering the stores banking services to make donations to the Margaret River bushfire victims.

    Margaret River is the out of town holiday home destination of many of Perth’s well heeled, plenty of whom would feel the cost of reconstruction of their pleasure domes far less than many of the good burgers of Rockingham would miss their generous and kind donations.

    Maybe I’m just a cynical bastard …

    Plus they are eligible for State andf Federal funding as the area has been declared a “Natural Disaster” – one started by a State Govt Department.

    by Frank Calabrese on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:49 am

  6. fulv

    way way way back

    the 70′s

    margaret river was for the hippies

    cuz brought a shitload of land

    anyhows, like byron bay

    margaret river is now just well heeled bogans

    by gusface on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:49 am

  7. [gusface

    Posted Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 1:49 am | Permalink

    fulv

    way way way back

    the 70′s

    margaret river was for the hippies

    cuz brought a shitload of land

    anyhows, like byron bay

    margaret river is now just well heeled bogans

    and many an Operation has bamkrolled Margaret River.

    by Frank Calabrese on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:52 am

  8. Whatever happened to Charlton?

    People come and people go and some phoenix.

    by This little black duck on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:53 am

  9. and one for the “dodododo brigade”

    my dads forebears were pioneers of wa- toodyay (nee newcastle) was one of their ahem towns

    anyways they helped setup connor’s mill

    fast forward 160 yrs and my connor gets a project to do

    ON CONNOR’s MILL

    srsly spooky

    by gusface on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:54 am

  10. gusface,

    Byron Bay has gone feral. SW WA never will.

    by This little black duck on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:55 am

  11. This little black duck
    Posted Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 1:05 am | Permalink
    Eric,

    Are you commenting on another name?

    I’m not sure what is happening here but I feel I’m being confused with someone else. My parents christened me Michael. I chose the moniker eric olthwaite after much thought, it seems most people find me boring as bat do do’s and I hail from northern england where it is always rainin’ etc etc.

    I am very left leaning in my political views so much so that I’m often seen wandering in circles muttering and cursing. I’m sure you can guess why! (bloody Abbott, Pyne, their abc, fkn OO what a load of mutter, mutter mutter.)

    I repeat I am new here and also new to posting so please bear with me until I become familiar with the environment and am able to respond with faster.

    by eric olthwaite on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:55 am

  12. eric

    dont worry

    PB is THE school of hard knocks

    by gusface on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:56 am

  13. This little black duck

    Posted Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    gusface,

    Byron Bay has gone feral. SW WA never will.

    Margaret River has it’s share of Ferals.

    Oh and the Chair Sniffer is the local MP.

    by Frank Calabrese on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:59 am

  14. Slater and Gorden are preparing the Advertisements for their soon to be proposed class action as we speak, I suspect.

    It will be the WA taxpayers, courtesy of their Government’s possible negligence, who will be funding the resultant compensation and damages, I fear.

    by Fulvio Sammut on Nov 29, 2011 at 1:59 am

  15. Oh and the Chair Sniffer is the local MP.

    a nice fit

    by gusface on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:02 am

  16. Gusface.

    I know of which you speak, I was married to one of AJ Fergusons descendant’s and have spent much time in 2J

    by eric olthwaite on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:03 am

  17. Eric,

    Simple. Have you commented here under a previous name? I don’t care if you don’t reply but you are 0 and 2.

    by This little black duck on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:05 am

  18. tlbd

    no

    by eric olthwaite on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:06 am

  19. again I apologise for being slow

    by eric olthwaite on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:07 am

  20. tlbd

    perhaps you could confer with bilbo to attest to my bone fides

    by eric olthwaite on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:08 am

  21. Oh, and I heard a WA government minister on TV tonight say that holding the relevant Minister (Marmion) accountable for the misdeeds of his Department was “going too far”.

    Westminster system? What Westminster system?

    by Fulvio Sammut on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:08 am

  22. if that is possible

    by eric olthwaite on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:08 am

  23. Frank,

    When I spent time in your SW I did not sniff a single chair. If I were to live there, not an absurdity, my vote would not go to the party of him of the nose so bent.

    by This little black duck on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:09 am

  24. The Margaret River area has long been considered a mecca for artists and those seeking an alternative lifestyle.

    Creative types are said to find great inspiration in the Margaret River's natural beauty, and solace in the peaceful community atmosphere. The Artisan Trail take visitors on a tour of the region's creative output. Painters, photographers, jewellers, glass-blowers and many others come here to the river to display and sell their artwork.

    http://www.pertheguide.com/Margaret-River.php

    Cashed Up Ferals

    by Frank Calabrese on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:09 am

  25. and tlbd

    thank you for the warm welcome

    by eric olthwaite on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:10 am

  26. eric,

    Third time. You’re out.

    by This little black duck on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:11 am

  27. eric

    yup

    there is a story that once they moved the railway- our branch decamped-only for the 3rd gen to comeback

    but then tragedy tore em away

    by gusface on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:13 am

  28. TLBD, I think you might be overrating your detective abilities a little.

    by William Bowe on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:15 am

  29. william

    ur back

    how was the news ltd bootcamp?

    by gusface on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:16 am

  30. Fulvio Sammut

    Posted Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 2:08 am | Permalink

    Oh, and I heard a WA government minister on TV tonight say that holding the relevant Minister (Marmion) accountable for the misdeeds of his Department was “going too far”.

    Westminster system? What Westminster system?

    At least Uncle Arthur isn’t directly involved – but his support of the Environment Minister should sound warning bells.

    Rememeber Bill Marmion won Nedlands from Sue Walker who resigned over Buswells’s Antics.

    by Frank Calabrese on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:17 am

  31. This little black duck
    Posted Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 2:11 am | Permalink
    eric,

    Third time. You’re out.
    tlbd

    I refer you to posts 504, 579 and 610

    by eric olthwaite on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:19 am

  32. [627

    William Bowe

    Posted Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 2:15 am | Permalink

    TLBD, I think you might be overrating your detective abilities a little.

    Oh the irony of that last statement :-)

    by Frank Calabrese on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:19 am

  33. William,

    Of course. I haven’t decided whether it is neurosis or psychosis. I’ll battle on.

    by This little black duck on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:19 am

  34. ducky

    eric seems dinki di

    why the aggro?

    by gusface on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:22 am

  35. I don’t see the connection, Marmion-Nedlands-Buswell-Sue Walker resigning, Frank.

    But I find it appalling that Ministers of the Crown/State have no knowledge of, let alone an understanding of, the principle of Ministerial Responsibility under the Westminster system.

    by Fulvio Sammut on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:26 am

  36. fulv

    the westminster system only applies to labor

    the fibs rely on the yes minister system

    by gusface on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:28 am

  37. Fulvio Sammut

    Posted Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 2:26 am | Permalink

    I don’t see the connection, Marmion-Nedlands-Buswell-Sue Walker resigning, Frank.

    But I find it appalling that Ministers of the Crown/State have no knowledge of, let alone an understanding of, the principle of Ministerial Responsibility under the Westminster system.

    Marmion is a protected species cos he brought Nedlands back to the fold after Sue Walker went Independent. Had she won Nedlands let’s just say she wouldn’t be a certain Lib Number when in the House.

    by Frank Calabrese on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:29 am

  38. gusface,

    PB does open arms. Some of us get signals and make assumptions and some make connections on similarities of previous behaviour.

    And IP addresses vary with hardware.

    I have already said more than I wanted to say. Good night all.

    by This little black duck on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:35 am

  39. I see. Thanks Frank. But surely even an intellectually impaired Goose would win Nedlands provided he stood for the Liberal Party, as has been proven.

    by Fulvio Sammut on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:35 am

  40. Some of us get signals and make assumptions and some make connections on similarities of previous behaviour.

    Not a single one of which is evident between the two people you’ve identified as far as I can see, but keep up the good work regardless.

    by William Bowe on Nov 29, 2011 at 2:40 am

  41. confessions
    Posted Monday, November 28, 2011 at 8:31 pm | Permalink
    Why? Until they reach our shores they are not our problem

    Because they are people. Because they are embarking on a dangerous journey to our country. Because we have an immigration policy that does not deter this mode of arrival.

    I would prefer to know what we are dealing with, however unpalatable the truth may be.

    People in circumstance that you will never have to suffer. I don’t know your background, but I suspect circumstance that you have never seen. You are probable not in a position to make a judgement.

    When you realize this is not about life and death, but the probability of death, and worse death of your children, your close.

    by fredn on Nov 29, 2011 at 5:40 am

  42. morning all.. hartcher is on the job bagging labor in the smh this morning…

    by Lyne Lady on Nov 29, 2011 at 5:52 am

  43. Good morning, fellow Bludgers!

    I beat BK this morning. Hehehehehe.

    PS Is that the SA Chapter Dawn Patrol equivalent of being the first person to comment on a thread and writing nothing other than, “first!”

    by Danny Lewis on Nov 29, 2011 at 6:24 am

  44. …and obviously that last questions should have ended with a question mark.

    I prostrate myself in front of the grammar gods and promise it won’t happen again.

    Until the next time it does. :D

    by Danny Lewis on Nov 29, 2011 at 6:28 am

  45. Selling your house has gone to your head, DannyL ;)

    Congrats tho – it’s a great feeling.

    by BH on Nov 29, 2011 at 6:30 am

  46. …and obviously that last correction should not have an ‘s’ at the end of the word “question.

    Sheesh. I need a cup of coffee.

    by Danny Lewis on Nov 29, 2011 at 6:31 am

  47. Oh dear, you want a proof why the #MSMhacks are a bunch of wangkery. Here it is.

    All this #MSMhack has to do is to look at the disdainful sneering laughing response of Tony Windosor when he was told of Abbott’s “I wouldnt do such a thing, it is not my style”. As Tony told Tony that he would do anything to be the PM.

    Even if it means publicly conceding that it was outdone, it must seize the moral high ground that Labor vacated in effecting its coup.

    Cynics may scoff, but those who know Abbott also know that his claim that he would not have done as Gillard did is genuine. He now can reinforce the electorate's existing doubts about Gillard's power grab in 2010 by contrasting the unsavoury odour of the Slipper episode with his determination to play hard but fair. Abbott reminding voters what he wouldn't do to win power is not admitting political weakness.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/abbotts-time-to-occupy-high-moral-ground-20111128-1o35z.html#ixzz1f1wP7atR

    by The Finnigans on Nov 29, 2011 at 6:38 am

  48. Thefinnigans TheFinnigans天地有道人无道
    Aust Govt has clear cut policy of putting the economy in surplus & growth, US & Europe Govts put their econ in deficit & recession #ausol
    47 seconds ago

    by The Finnigans on Nov 29, 2011 at 6:45 am

  49. Finns: read the fine print.

    That “opinion” piece was written by a former adviser to the Howard government.

    They might have well asked Abbott himself…

    by Danny Lewis on Nov 29, 2011 at 6:48 am

  50. Peter Hatcher is in the typical #MSMhack’s two bobs each way mode. Plenty of words but saying nothing insightful. Something that La Grattan always employs:

    There are parallels between NZ and Australia. One is that, in an election fought chiefly on the economy, the conservative party is the one perceived as the better economic manager. In both countries. That should trouble the ALP. Incumbency may have worked for Key, but looking around the world, incumbency is no automatic source of comfort to leaders. Another parallel is that NZ Labour wasn't seen as standing for anything much.

    The differences? Among them, Tony Abbott is no John Key. Abbott is an unpopular leader; Key is hugely popular and a proven commodity. And the NZ Greens gained largely because of the oil spill, not as part of a broader political move. These factors should give the ALP some very slight comfort.

    It's about time NZ got some luck. Key will have to work for it; the Europeans certainly don't look like helping.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/nz-outcome-reveals-hard-truths-on-fate-of-alp-20111128-1o38v.html#ixzz1f20wssMg

    by The Finnigans on Nov 29, 2011 at 6:53 am

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